Do you need more?
FYI: I'm not saying I trust much of what's on that page, but it gives you an example of what the government would have to 'choke down' before admitting that marijuana should be legal.
FYI: I'm not saying I trust much of what's on that page, but it gives you an example of what the government would have to 'choke down' before admitting that marijuana should be legal.
now i know you have no idea what your talking about. first, ruphies are the date rape drug and ghb is not at all what you think it is mixed together.
Oops, you're right about the date-rape drug.
As for GHB ingredients: drain cleaner and floor stripper
Kadarin
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Your argument doesn't make sense, on several levels:
Marijuana has been privately produced and distributed already for many years. If legal, it would continue to be privately grown and distributed. Why not? The only problem is that if the government wants to tax all of the distribution channels, it will need to continue to crack down on what it sees as "unauthorized" growers and distributors. That's an enforcement problem that could either be solved the easy way or the hard way. Marijuana is a plant that grows in the ground. The only reason it has to be expensive at all is because supply and distribution are limited artificially.
In addition, the government, via the ATF, the FDC, and various other agencies, regulates alcohol. Why would adding marijuana to their responsibilities necessarily result in a "nightmarish situation"?
Technically, you're right. It wouldn't be that big of a deal for the gov't to add marijuana to its list of regulated substances. But doing so would require the federal government to 'choke down' all the bad things it's said about marijuana and how it can cause longterm health adversities. People would want to know why the gov't is legalizing marijuana after such a firestorm of criticism of it in past years. And trust me, the government won't bow to pressure from NORML. Most people in society see NORML as a group of hippies and sketchballs.
Additionally, what would happen to all the people in jail on marijuana charges? We can't exactly keep them there when the drug they're accused of trafficking is legal, can we? I think this would be the most major problem we'd run into, as most people in jail for marijuana offenses aren't there because they're stoner hippies who just want to smoke in peace. They're there because they're big time drug traffickers who are simply in it to make money. They WILL find some other way to break the law, one that could be much more dangerous to all of us.
This is a nice discussion topic.
However, after seeing the results and other voting results, what kind of democracy do we live in?
With out a doubt more people are in favor of legalizing. Yet it is no where close to being legal.
2nd ...Al Gore won the popular vote yet he wasn't the president. (not that i voted for him) (nor am I endorsing Mr. Texax)
so sad.
However, after seeing the results and other voting results, what kind of democracy do we live in?
With out a doubt more people are in favor of legalizing. Yet it is no where close to being legal.
2nd ...Al Gore won the popular vote yet he wasn't the president. (not that i voted for him) (nor am I endorsing Mr. Texax)
so sad.
did you read the article I linked to?
If you download the PDF version, every page has the references listed so you can see that the data is supported...
very unlike your link.
I acknowledge that. But that's not the point I'm making. The government doesn't like admitting it's wrong, and the process of marijuana legalization would be no different. The government has been saying for dozens of years that weed is bad. What makes you think they'll acquiesce so quickly and admit they were wrong.
It's not gonna happen. It's not about the PR of government admitting they're wrong. Think about all the customs, dea, coast guard, DARE, and all the officials that enforce this policy. They'd be outta jobs.
Kadarin
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So the "nightmarish situation" of which you speak is simply a combination of the facts that the government will have to find a way to admit they've been lying to us all these years, and that they'd have to figure out what to do with a number of people who are in prison because they chose to break the law as it was at the time?
Ahh ok. I see what you mean.. I thought you were saying you believed that stuff. And yes, they would have to pull a complete 180. First we will see more wide-spread decriminalization (~3-5 years down the road maybe?), and eventually complete medical legalization (~5 years maybe?). It will be quite a while yet before a total legalization is even presented... But I would bet it would be within most anyone here's lifetime.
If the results of this poll are any indication, you already do, you just don't realize it.
Think about it.
No one has ever died from a weed overdose. They should legalize it, but at the same time keep some rules to it such as:
-allowed to carry only a certain amount.
-smoke it only indoors.
-18 and older.
Stuff like that.
It won't be legal because the government makes to much money off of it already. If they legalize it, there would be no money in it.
-allowed to carry only a certain amount.
-smoke it only indoors.
-18 and older.
Stuff like that.
It won't be legal because the government makes to much money off of it already. If they legalize it, there would be no money in it.
I think getting the government to admit they were lying to us and subsequently begin overseeing distribution of a drug that was formerly responsible for millions of arrests is a bigger deal than you think.
azazyel
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Your right but they are not king pins either.
Some effects of MMS:
Prison Overcrowding -More than 80 percent of the increase in the federal prison population from 1985 to 1995 is due to drug convictions.
Racial Injustice- In 1986, the year Congress enacted federal mandatory drug sentences, the average federal drug sentence for African Americans was 11 percent higher than for whites. Four years later, the average federal drug sentence for African Americans was 49 percent higher.
Women- Between 1986 and 1996, the number of women in prison for drug law violations increased by 421 percent. This led U.S. Bureau of Prisons Director Kathleen Hawk-Sawyer to testify before Congress, "The reality is, some 70-some percent of our female population are low-level, nonviolent offenders. The fact that they have to come into prison is a question mark for me. I think it has been an unintended consequence of the sentencing guidelines and the mandatory minimums."
http://www.lindesmith.org/drugwar/mandatorymin/
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