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Originally posted by: Frosty3799
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: azazyel
That is pretty sterotypical. Ever heard of Mandatory Minimum Sentencing?
Yes, and it often doesn't apply to those convicted on simple posession charges.

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In my own city (Ann Arbor), marijuana possession is a simple ticket with a $25 fine. And I've known several people who have been arrested for posession of marijuana on University of Michigan property, on which state laws apply. None of them spent any time in jail except while they were being booked. Maximum sentences and actual, applied sentences are often very different.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
So the "nightmarish situation" of which you speak is simply a combination of the facts that the government will have to find a way to admit they've been lying to us all these years, and that they'd have to figure out what to do with a number of people who are in prison because they chose to break the law as it was at the time?
I think getting the government to admit they were lying to us and subsequently begin overseeing distribution of a drug that was formerly responsible for millions of arrests is a bigger deal than you think.

There is precedent: The repeal of Prohibition did not have disastrous consequences for our country.
 

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
So the "nightmarish situation" of which you speak is simply a combination of the facts that the government will have to find a way to admit they've been lying to us all these years, and that they'd have to figure out what to do with a number of people who are in prison because they chose to break the law as it was at the time?
I think getting the government to admit they were lying to us and subsequently begin overseeing distribution of a drug that was formerly responsible for millions of arrests is a bigger deal than you think.

There is precedent: The repeal of Prohibition did not have disastrous consequences for our country.
That's because the public knew there was nothing dangerous about alcohol since it was legal less than a generation before. The government has (for a LONG time) been saying that marijuana is a 'dangerous' drug. There are major differences between marijuana and alcohol.
 

JonnyBlaze

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manatory senteces are usually for more than just possession. usually possesion with intent.

JB
 

clamum

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None of this would've happened if the government wasn't so full of idiots in the first place.
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: clamum
None of this would've happened if the government wasn't so full of idiots in the first place.
Actually, none of this would be happening if hemp couldn't replace the products of a few very influential(read:lots of $$$) lobbies.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
So the "nightmarish situation" of which you speak is simply a combination of the facts that the government will have to find a way to admit they've been lying to us all these years, and that they'd have to figure out what to do with a number of people who are in prison because they chose to break the law as it was at the time?
I think getting the government to admit they were lying to us and subsequently begin overseeing distribution of a drug that was formerly responsible for millions of arrests is a bigger deal than you think.

There is precedent: The repeal of Prohibition did not have disastrous consequences for our country.
That's because the public knew there was nothing dangerous about alcohol since it was legal less than a generation before. The government has (for a LONG time) been saying that marijuana is a 'dangerous' drug. There are major differences between marijuana and alcohol.

And what might those be, pray tell?

Most, if not all of the few negative health effects of marijuana come from the fact that in most cases it is smoked. Yet cigarettes are legal. And... One can consume marijuana orally and avoid that issue altogether. With alcohol, by contrast you get: Binge drinking, alcohol poisoning, liver damage, alcoholism, violent/abusive behavior...
 

TheAudit

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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: jumpr
I voted no, only because it'd be a logistical, legal and public health nightmare for our federal government. Legalizing weed wouldn't mean we'd be able to go to our corner junkie and buy an ounce a week. We'd have to go to drug store type places and purchase it for (likely very expensive) fee. Add to that the amount of corruption that would likely invade such an industry, even if it is government sponsored, and I just don't see enough benefits to legalize it.
Have you checked the price of a bag of nice skunk recently? I don't think it can go much higher.
Trust me, the price would go WAY up for a bag of government certified, government inspected, top quality marijuana.
I don't think you understand, marijuana is a plant, plants are very easy to grow. The only reason why people pay $350 for an ounce of dried flowers is because somebody had to take a risk selling it to somebody else who has to take a risk selling it to somebody who has to take a risk selling it to you. You take out the fact that one can get put in prizon for possession of said dried flowers and the price drops alot. Sure, it's not going to go for what it costs to grow(pennies) but it's not going to more than $350 an ounce.

Good point.

But who is going to legalize it? Which politico is going to put forth a bill making weed legal? I don't see that happening. Just look at the fight trying to make it legal to use medically.

 

Frosty3799

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Originally posted by: TheAudit
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: jumpr
I voted no, only because it'd be a logistical, legal and public health nightmare for our federal government. Legalizing weed wouldn't mean we'd be able to go to our corner junkie and buy an ounce a week. We'd have to go to drug store type places and purchase it for (likely very expensive) fee. Add to that the amount of corruption that would likely invade such an industry, even if it is government sponsored, and I just don't see enough benefits to legalize it.
Have you checked the price of a bag of nice skunk recently? I don't think it can go much higher.
Trust me, the price would go WAY up for a bag of government certified, government inspected, top quality marijuana.
I don't think you understand, marijuana is a plant, plants are very easy to grow. The only reason why people pay $350 for an ounce of dried flowers is because somebody had to take a risk selling it to somebody else who has to take a risk selling it to somebody who has to take a risk selling it to you. You take out the fact that one can get put in prizon for possession of said dried flowers and the price drops alot. Sure, it's not going to go for what it costs to grow(pennies) but it's not going to more than $350 an ounce.

Good point.

But who is going to legalize it? Which politico is going to put forth a bill making weed legal? I don't see that happening. Just look at the fight trying to make it legal to use medically.

It will take time. Lots of time.
 

element

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Yes let's make dope legal so we can have more dumbasses running around fscking everything up. Because there just aren't enough dopes in the world today and not enough problems.
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