A Racist Finds Cover For His Racism Post Trump Election

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agent00f

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Perspective from an actual south asian american for those who are interested.

Actually a fair bit of asian americans are pro-trump. In the high skilled immigrant community, there's a perception that the Dem parties have always prioritized illegals employment and legalization over the very real problems that legal immigrants face.

For example, children of illegals can get an unlimited, work-anywhere-EAD, no-hassle travel and in-state tuition while children of legal immigrants waiting for a green card have to get work and student visas, and may not be eligible for in-state tuition. There's a risk of the student or work visas being rejected at consulates abroad which means they can't stay in the US anymore, despite spending most of their formative years. D's don't care about our children, factors such as "family separation" etc are reserved exclusively for the illegals. We depend on the goodwill of USCIS to help us our, not any of the D congressmen or "Hope and Change" Obama.

This double standard is infuriating, and no dem administration did anything about it despite various appeals. As it stands, it's actually better to be illegal for DACA, even worse if extended DACA/DAPA passed. So there's a lot of cheering for Trump - even if Sessions is around, the perception is that both the illegals and legals are screwed and not just the legals. At least with Trump and sessions, we know what to expect, instead of D's and Obama who screw you when you trust them.

As for racism, honestly even in pre-Trump america we have always experienced some level of hostility from various people, so most of my kindred have accepted that as a price to pay for living and working in the USA. We don't deal with this on a daily basis, and the main difference is that now the racists are using Trump as a part of their slurs. Meh.

As Bannon said, 2/3 CEOs are asian americans. I doubt Trump or Sessions or KKK or NumbersUSA can do anything to change that, and I'm confident that the rest of America won't let that happen either.

If things do change, we'll survive and persevere as we always have. The odds mean nothing to us because probably of all peoples in the US, we believe closest to the American ideals - that (smart) hard work, education, perseverance, sacrifice and family are enough to get you success... no matter what the haters say.

Our forefathers were crushed under the heels of various ethnicities - white people, asians, even our own country men. As a community, we've always emerged prosperous. So while this girl's experience is vile, I don't believe that things have fundamentally changed. We'll see in a year or so.

House slave talk.

Despite how loudly the monkeys may be screaming and thrashing, it really was just a gentle and non-harmful poke. ;)

That's a pretty accurate description of the usual bitch/sjw this and that posts your lot's limited to. What's interesting is that unlike svnla, I don't think you're too dumb to see this.
 

agent00f

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You're right, they most likely voted for Obama the last two elections.

Until an option came along that made them feel right at home.

I get the impression you've never seen much of the world to place Trump into the scheme of things.
 

Londo_Jowo

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Until an option came along that made them feel right at home.

I get the impression you've never seen much of the world to place Trump into the scheme of things.
I get the impression you haven't traveled the world a tenth of what I have in the last 37 years.
One thing for certain I never considered Asians or Hispanics as being white racist like you've been crying about since last Tuesday.
 

agent00f

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I get the impression you haven't traveled the world a tenth of what I have in the last 37 years.
One thing for certain I never considered Asians or Hispanics as being white racist like you've been crying about since last Tuesday.

Can you elaborate on the places you've been where Trump types thrive?
 

Darwin333

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Now I am not a Trump supporter and I can't say anything with certainty but given the way that article was written I am highly suspicious if she is being truthful. Besides, one Trump supporter talking dumb shit to an Asian-American does not make a "Trump's attack on Asian-Americans"...
 
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agent00f

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Now I am not a Trump supporter and I can't say anything with certainty but given the way that article was written I am highly suspicious if she is being truthful. Besides, one Trump supporter talking dumb shit to an Asian-American does not make a "Trump's attack on Asian-Americans"...

Unless you're trying to deny the existence of racial resentment demonstrated by every study on the matter, "winning" only emboldens people's existing conceptions as you might've seen exhibited here as of late.
 

MrSquished

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As Bannon said, 2/3 CEOs are asian americans. I doubt Trump or Sessions or KKK or NumbersUSA can do anything to change that, and I'm confident that the rest of America won't let that happen either.

I haven't found analysis of all CEO's in this country but analysis of Fortune 500 CEO's showed that asian americans were a miniscule percentage. Where do you get your facts from? Mr. Bannon? Cause the numbers are way the fuck off if you use the Fortune 500 as a measuring stick. You got other numbers for the rest of the corporations in this country?

http://fortune.com/2014/02/04/microsofts-new-ceo-one-minority-exec-in-a-sea-of-white/

"The announcement draws attention to the fact that, for all the diversity initiatives at major corporations these days, C-suites are overwhelmingly white. Of all the Fortune 500 CEOs, only 23 — or just over 4% — are minorities, a classification that includes African Americans, Asians, and Latin Americans.

Corporate boards of directors are a bit more diverse, but minorities are still underrepresented. White people made up 86.7% of total board seats, African Americans constituted 7.4%, while Hispanics/Latinos and Asians/Pacific Islanders formed 3.3% and 2.6%, respectively, according to an August 2013 report from the Alliance for Board Diversity. The percentage of women and minorities on boards has improved only slightly, inching up from 25.5% in 2010 to 26.7% in 2012."
 

agent00f

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I haven't found analysis of all CEO's in this country but analysis of Fortune 500 CEO's showed that asian americans were a miniscule percentage. Where do you get your facts from? Mr. Bannon? Cause the numbers are way the fuck off if you use the Fortune 500 as a measuring stick. You got other numbers for the rest of the corporations in this country?

http://fortune.com/2014/02/04/microsofts-new-ceo-one-minority-exec-in-a-sea-of-white/

"The announcement draws attention to the fact that, for all the diversity initiatives at major corporations these days, C-suites are overwhelmingly white. Of all the Fortune 500 CEOs, only 23 — or just over 4% — are minorities, a classification that includes African Americans, Asians, and Latin Americans.

Corporate boards of directors are a bit more diverse, but minorities are still underrepresented. White people made up 86.7% of total board seats, African Americans constituted 7.4%, while Hispanics/Latinos and Asians/Pacific Islanders formed 3.3% and 2.6%, respectively, according to an August 2013 report from the Alliance for Board Diversity. The percentage of women and minorities on boards has improved only slightly, inching up from 25.5% in 2010 to 26.7% in 2012."

There are more asian execs in the valley but nowhere near their proportion as leaf nodes by factor of multiples; south asians seem to do better so there's def bit more of a bamboo ceiling. The fact Bannon sees it as 2/3 (ie they're everywhere) is quite revealing.

The whole Obama gave too many handouts to those other people, so let's vote for the exclusion act guys logic is hilarious.
 

Starbuck1975

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Just pointing out why they're your model minorities.
My grandparents immigrated to this country with nothing. Many of their fellow countrymen had last names involuntarily "Americanized" on Ellis Island. Others changed theirs voluntarily to try to blend in. The immigration waves prior to theirs called them derogatory names. They were the wrong flavor of Christianity. They smelled funny as did their cooking. They were greasy. Criminals!!! They were European but weren't considered "white", at least not initially. Their women were whores for pumping out large families. They watched as America slowly assimilated their cuisine, culture and language. They abandoned their native tongue and aggressively sought the American dream.

Popular culture depicted their culture as criminals and lords of the underworld and later as stereotypical musclehead eurotrash. In many cities, the primarily Irish local authorities and in some cases even the FBI profiled their communities.

And they never bitched about any of it. Never needed a safe space. Never felt triggered.

They fought with blood and sweat and a cultural pride and stubborness, and when necessary their bare knuckles. They fought in wars for their adopted nation. They wouldn't trade any of it for the privilege to be an American.

I am sure your response to all of this will be a dismissive mention of "white privilege". That would be unfortunate. I have a tremendous respect for any immigrant. This nation was built by immigrants. Part of the problem is that current waves, rather than being given the opportunity to join the melting pot, are instead being sold a false message of victimhood.
 

Jaskalas

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As for racism, honestly even in pre-Trump america we have always experienced some level of hostility from various people, so most of my kindred have accepted that as a price to pay for living and working in the USA. We don't deal with this on a daily basis...

Any American who does is no kin of mine. You'll find plenty of Americans who value you for your character and leave it at that.
 

Svnla

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Despite how loudly the monkeys may be screaming and thrashing, it really was just a gentle and non-harmful poke. ;)

You know the old saying...all talk and no action.Just from this thread alone, you could see clearly that stupid monkey is only good at lies and accusations and nothing else. Must be Ebola at the mouth disease monkey. Or diarrhea at the mouth monkey? The possibilities are endless. Maybe that's why that monkey is behaving that way because it could not help it? :D

Poor little monkey, trying so hard to fit in. Better luck next life time. LOL.

I think I will call that monkey as dumbass wumao "Gunther" (from the cute monkey of Futurama). LOL. x 100000000. Must. Stop. Laughing. So. Hard.
 
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agent00f

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My grandparents immigrated to this country with nothing. Many of their fellow countrymen had last names involuntarily "Americanized" on Ellis Island. Others changed theirs voluntarily to try to blend in. The immigration waves prior to theirs called them derogatory names. They were the wrong flavor of Christianity. They smelled funny as did their cooking. They were greasy. Criminals!!! They were European but weren't considered "white", at least not initially. Their women were whores for pumping out large families. They watched as America slowly assimilated their cuisine, culture and language. They abandoned their native tongue and aggressively sought the American dream.

Popular culture depicted their culture as criminals and lords of the underworld and later as stereotypical musclehead eurotrash. In many cities, the primarily Irish local authorities and in some cases even the FBI profiled their communities.

And they never bitched about any of it. Never needed a safe space. Never felt triggered.

They fought with blood and sweat and a cultural pride and stubborness, and when necessary their bare knuckles. They fought in wars for their adopted nation. They wouldn't trade any of it for the privilege to be an American.

I am sure your response to all of this will be a dismissive mention of "white privilege". That would be unfortunate. I have a tremendous respect for any immigrant. This nation was built by immigrants. Part of the problem is that current waves, rather than being given the opportunity to join the melting pot, are instead being sold a false message of victimhood.

Good they banded together soon enough to hate on groups of even lesser social status. Seems rather more selfish than heroically depicted here, and I can't blame model minorities from trying, too. "Even if we aren't X+1, at least we're not X-1".

The way things are going it might well be better to hitch their wagon to the white solidarity movement.

You know the old saying...all talk and no action.Just from this thread alone, you could see clearly that stupid monkey is only good at lies and accusations and nothing else. Must be Ebola at the mouth disease monkey. Or diarrhea at the mouth monkey? The possibilities are endless. Maybe that's why that monkey is behaving that way because it could not help it? :D

Poor little monkey, trying so hard to fit in. Better luck next life time. LOL.

I think I will call that monkey as dumbass wumao "Gunther" (from the cute monkey of Futurama). LOL. x 100000000. Must. Stop. Laughing. So. Hard.

Not surprising this the best that trailer park playground brain can do. Even blue_max can see you're a permanent moron, even if he has trouble see the same in himself.
 

Zaap

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I haven't found analysis of all CEO's in this country but analysis of Fortune 500 CEO's showed that asian americans were a miniscule percentage. Where do you get your facts from? Mr. Bannon?
Psst...

He said "...in Silicon Valley..."
 

MrSquished

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Psst...

He said "...in Silicon Valley..."

You need to tell the original poster of that quote that. He made a blanket statement that Bannon said 2/3 of CEO's are Asian. Period. Nothing about Silicon Valley.

Still, data I researched shows that in Silicon Valley Asian Americans are approx 30% of the workforce there, give or take a margin of error, but show that whites own the largest percentage of management level and above positions by a wide margin. Still a significant amount, but not near their 30% of the general workforce percentage.

Stating 2/3 of CEO's are Asian American in general, like the poster said. Is asinine. Total horseshit.

In Silicon Valley alone, still a large exaggeration, but Silicon Valley does have a much larger Asian-American presence vs their population percentage, in the workforce and management, than other industries looked at. Maybe the poster will now claim Asian Americans are 3/4 of all Coal Industry CEO's to go along with his original general statement about all industries. That's his call.

What's ironic is he points out there is enthusiasm amongst Asian-Americans that the possible restrictions on other nationalities and races of immigrants by a Trump administration will be good for them. Little does he note that the whole Bannon exaggeration about Asian-Americans in executive positions in Silicon Valley was because he wants to get them the fuck out of there and back to their countries. Perhaps he should show more solidarity with all immigrants rather than cheer for the 'it's possible for anybody but me' bandwagon.
 

0roo0roo

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Ah the left still trying to push the racial narrative.
I've listened to entire npr programs on "diversity" in higher education where they have a black and latino guest on, and not once did they mention asians, was comical.

 
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Starbuck1975

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Good they banded together soon enough to hate on groups of even lesser social status. Seems rather more selfish than heroically depicted here, and I can't blame model minorities from trying, too. "Even if we aren't X+1, at least we're not X-1".

The way things are going it might well be better to hitch their wagon to the white solidarity movement
I learned a lot about identity politics playing pick up soccer in SoCal. To an outsider, Asians seem like a unified front, yet the mainland Chinese looked down on the Vietnamese, the Taiwanese didn't care for the mainland Chinese and the Koreans and Japanese simultaneously thought they were better than the rest and despised one another.

Indians seem like a unified front but beneath the surface identified with their respective regions and/or cities.

Hispanics and African Americans are part of the Democrat coalition, yet in Los Angeles, African American gangs are at war with the Mexican gangs that continue to spread into their historic neighborhoods.

Persian Armenians have little love for Turks, yet to an outsider they may culturally seem the same.

Mexicans and Puerto Ricans dont care for one another.

Well educated Africans from places like Nigeria express little kinship with their African American brothers.

Even when I lived in Germany, a nation that over compensates on inclusiveness given its history, turned a warry eye to its Turkish and eastern European labor class of auslanders.

The white solidarity movement is late to the identity politics party.
 

agent00f

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I learned a lot about identity politics playing pick up soccer in SoCal. To an outsider, Asians seem like a unified front, yet the mainland Chinese looked down on the Vietnamese, the Taiwanese didn't care for the mainland Chinese and the Koreans and Japanese simultaneously thought they were better than the rest and despised one another.

Indians seem like a unified front but beneath the surface identified with their respective regions and/or cities.

Hispanics and African Americans are part of the Democrat coalition, yet in Los Angeles, African American gangs are at war with the Mexican gangs that continue to spread into their historic neighborhoods.

Persian Armenians have little love for Turks, yet to an outsider they may culturally seem the same.

Mexicans and Puerto Ricans dont care for one another.

Well educated Africans from places like Nigeria express little kinship with their African American brothers.

Even when I lived in Germany, a nation that over compensates on inclusiveness given its history, turned a warry eye to its Turkish and eastern European labor class of auslanders.

The white solidarity movement is late to the identity politics party.

For quite a while it looked like the US was slowly but steadily moving away from that, then L O L trump.

Consider even a year ago people largely thought it was impossible for someone like that to be president. The lasting impact of this election may well be where the bar for office gets set, or stuck.
 

Starbuck1975

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For quite a while it looked like the US was slowly but steadily moving away from that, then L O L trump.

Consider even a year ago people largely thought it was impossible for someone like that to be president. The lasting impact of this election may well be where the bar for office gets set, or stuck.
The bar is forever lowered. I fully expect to see President Mark Cuban or Kanye West or Madame President Gaga in my lifetime
 

Zaap

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You need to tell the original poster of that quote that. He made a blanket statement that Bannon said 2/3 of CEO's are Asian. Period. Nothing about Silicon Valley.
It's PAGE ONE of the thread. Pay attention to the actual subject, not just go off half-cocked misreading what someone said.


Still, data I researched shows that in Silicon Valley Asian Americans are approx 30% of the workforce there, give or take a margin of error, but show that whites own the largest percentage of management level and above positions by a wide margin. Still a significant amount, but not near their 30% of the general workforce percentage.

Stating 2/3 of CEO's are Asian American in general, like the poster said. Is asinine. Total horseshit.

I guess you'll have to take that up with ultra right wing Silicon Valley.

blah blah.. the whole Bannon exaggeration about Asian-Americans in executive positions in Silicon Valley was because he wants to get them the fuck out of there and back to their countries.
THIS is one of the reasons the fucktard left LOST. Constantly just make up shit and then regurgitate it.

Trump said literally EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what you just spewed. He lamented the fact that Asians were getting college educated here and leaving... he not only wants them to stay, he referred to them as "our talented people".