This is not an excuse for anybody. It's just to not accuse anyone of anything before they do it. I don't agree with the guy's views but let's at least see what he'll do before we start crying.
This is not an excuse for anybody. It's just to not accuse anyone of anything before they do it. I don't agree with the guy's views but let's at least see what he'll do before we start crying.
Chaotic42
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I did a Google search and this was the first result:
http://www.advocate.com/politics/20...rly-gay-man-my-president-says-we-can-kill-you
I won't argue that most of the protesters are liberals and that a lot of them are acting like asses, but like I said, they're a small percentage of liberals/Democrats/Hillary voters and we have no way of knowing what the protests from Trump supporters would have been like had Hillary won. I can tell you that I saw a lot of nastiness locally when Obama won and I've seen a lot of "sore losers" now that Trump won, but that's anecdotal and again, a very small percentage of people.
It amazes me how brainwashed by the media most people are. Just parroting the stupid media all day.
They make money by creating fear. When will people ever realize?
Even after the media got slapped getting this election result so wrong people still won't give up the boob tube news.
MrSquished
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I'm sure there are outliers on either side. There is simply no call to violence amongst leftists that I have ever seen - unless you count anarchists.
I think the white nationalists are a more significant part of the Trump movement than you give credit for. And while I think white nationalists are a smaller minority of Trumpists, there is a significant amount who are SYMPATHIZERS and other who are basically racists in denial. I'm not racist, I just like more white people and btw get those other colors the fuck outta here or prevent them from getting in in the first place.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...sting-alt-right-dinner-with-sieg-heil-salute/
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/22/world/americas/white-nationalism-explained.html?_r=0
https://news.vice.com/story/watch-r...right-america-is-white-peoples-creation?cl=fp
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-nationalists-support-donald-trump/story?id=37524610
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...can-nazi-party-praise-trumps-hiring-of-bannon
I never thought it was your interest. Even a very stupid person is capable of observing that futility on some level.
Yeah I'm sure you won't be convinced by reading the OG Alternative Right site that reignited it all, it was just a prank bro like the Project for new american century.
I always check to see if any other source can corroborate any story I read. Not one another source has this story.
While I bash the mainstream media for intent (making money through spreading fear) at least I know they have reputations to uphold and would trust this "news" if any mainstream organization would repeat it.
They can't outright make up stuff as much as spin and spin and spin.
You remember the gay man attack hoax on election night right? More hoaxes than real hate crimes. It sort of reveals a pathological thinking in some of these people that try make up hate crimes to draw attention to their movement.
You do bring up something I've often wondered. What would the trump supporters have done if Hillary won? I truly wonder and wish I could find out. That would be very telling.
Me personally when Obama won I was in Brooklyn so everyone and their mother was so elated. I couldn't even dream of finding anyone who was upset. But then again that was Brooklyn.
You can see why it's easy to misinterpret "If that is your interest, it makes me wonder why you post here."
They are so crazy and delusional. They think trump is their friend. They'll very soon realize this was some fantasy on their part. Nobody in this country cares what they think and who they endorse. It all seems like a one way admiration.
Your point about sympathizers is poignant. I have no doubt that number is bigger than it seems. But in all honesty everyone is a racist in denial. Everyone wants others of their race in prominent positions, in the spotlight. It's cool if its a black person but bad if it's a white person? I don't think that's fair.
I just see this as a pendulum. These people felt it swung too far one way and they are rejoicing at it having swung back towards their direction. It's just the nature of things.
Given how the laws are written and how many sanctuary cities there are in the US how do you propose they promote white interests over those of other races? Can he bring back segregation? Can he get rid of equal housing or institute discriminatory policies? The most he can do is focus development in rural more white areas while neglecting urban areas. But does that make business sense? Obviously not. This country is built on and runs on money.
I just don't see how white nationalism is good business. It's terrible business.
Doesn't take a look of looking at other strongman despot countries to see how they want it to go down. Not a great coincidence both trump and bannon find a lot to like in putin. Pay off followers generously and promote them to the top of the social hierarchy. In this case his most loyal followers are the white nationalists who answer to bannon's vision for america.
I'm guessing that more than a few Japanese Americans felt the same way before March, 1942.
This a completely different time and civil rights are in a whole other ball park at this point. Besides given that time and the severity of that country bombing us out of the blue like that, it was a different set of circumstances.
I'm not saying human nature itself has changed but seriously let's not all act like it's even halfway going to happen. Possibly if a foreign country attacks on US soil again, but barring that I don't see it. But we can always act like it's oh so scary out here in the civilized US. You want to be scared just go to an unsavory part of Camden, NJ that's scary.
But seriously if one is that afraid one can just go to any area with a minority of whites. So many nice parts of the country are that way such as LA.
If 2 years ago you told people a complete degenerate with a alt-right strategist was going to be president they wouldn't believe it either.
So much hyperbole and ad hominem characterizations. You just can't stop. Everyone knows the pendulum swings both ways over time. But the hyperbole. Oh the world is crashing down. No evidence, no points beyond some imaginative scenario where Nazi Germany repeats right here right now.
Such black and white thinking is the hallmark of the immature mind.
I'm sure you won't watch it because just like a 3 year old losing an argument sticks its fingers in its ears and makes noise you wouldn't watch anything that may change your point of view. It's like heresy to hear anything that is not pre-approved as safe and non-triggering to your existing belief system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_PsNgjc1Sk&t=0s
Speaking of "evidence" and "Nazi Germany repeats right here":
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154823525748487&id=29259828486
I'm curious what life experiences has led you to believe you're the intelligent voice of reason outside of conservative voices employing the reassuring tone warning the audience against the perils of progress since their inception.
Since it's certainly not their record on the wrong side of history that impress you, it must be some other element like the pretense to authority which makes people think maybe trump isn't so bad after all.
Oh silly, he never means anything he says. I'm sure he just made the white nationalist his strategist for laughs.
AnonymouseUser
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More than 200 people! That's like 200 more than a Hillary Clinton rally! Two Hundred and change!
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154823525748487&id=29259828486
I actually saw that and I don't know what to say beyond it would seem that if you threw a bunch of Big Macs into that crowd they'd drop everything and just chow down for hours.
I actually saw that and I don't know what to say beyond it would seem that if you threw a bunch of Big Macs into that crowd they'd drop everything and just chow down for hours.
You know it's bad when the only argument someone can make was 'it was just several hundred Trump supporters'.
Very simply that when I go into areas which are filled with Trump voters I've noticed they are very nice people. Even when I try to look for a hint of racism I don't see it. At the very least they are more civil than the average city dweller.
The only thing I see is inter racial families all the time. I mean to the extent that it surprised me.
I just see this country converging on a nice cafe au lait complexion. At least in the rural areas.
If anything it's the city folk who cry for Hillary and Bernie, those people despite their outward cries would never jeopardize their social status by marrying outside their race. Not all but most. They like to march and protest but when push comes shove they won't put their money where their mouthes are. Such are the ways of the privileged city folk who have the luxury of blowing off classes to get counseling because they saw some spray paint that didn't ostensibly agree with them.
City folk think they are so progressive but it's all show and talk. It's the "deplorables" among whom I see white couples adopting black babies or marrying outside their race. It seems almost every 3rd child is mixed race. If I kept myself in the city all the time I would have thought much like you. But I went out into their territory and saw completely otherwise.
Most people (the vast majority) voted for Trump for economic and religious reasons. I don't necessarily agree with those religious reasons but I do see why they felt they needed a voice. Most of them know that Trump doesn't care about abortion. At least they feel for once they can live their lives without having an agenda shoved down their throats and all the false accusations that keep getting made against them. I'm for freedom and includes points of view I don't agree with. It's not freedom if only one group can safely voice their opinion.
I believe a baker has the right to not get involved in a gay couple's ceremony just as much as the gay couple has a right to get married. I think it's bad business but it's their right. That's what having a free country entails. You are free to practice your religion no matter how unpopular be it Islam or Christianity.
I'm not in the least worried about these fringe groups of white nationalism. Sure they have more sympathetizers now. But they will just fizzle out like they always do.
I think people are bad judges of actual risk. The odds of dying crossing the street are far higher than a bunch of white dudes attacking me. The sort of fear talk I hear is rooted in fantasy. Some risks are too low to even talk about.
It's a statistical argument. They support trump but trump doesn't support them.
K1052
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Why do you think discrimination on class in a business is a desirable or even legal thing? You have a right to your religion and opinion but there is no right to own a business.
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