A question for people in IT

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
lag1 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lg)
v. lagged, lag·ging, lags
v. intr.
To fail to keep up a pace; straggle.
To proceed or develop with comparative slowness: The electric current lags behind the voltage.
To fail, weaken, or slacken gradually; flag.

con·text ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kntkst)
n.
The part of a text or statement that surrounds a particular word or passage and determines its meaning.
The circumstances in which an event occurs; a setting.

 

[FoBoT]

so it is slang? why should i leave that slang?

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: spidey07
Why would I know what in the world a lag spike is?

Use the proper terms....a temporary increase in rountrip latency resulting in an overall jitter deviation for a short period of time.

Because you dont want to say that every time you talk about it?

"lag spike" is not something ever used when speaking about networks. Using the proper terminology allows better communication.

Ive been using it for years... ive never had someone question it.

Look, what a bunch of 12 year olds playing CS say != the proper network terminology. I would feel embarrassed if one of my guys explained something to a client in terms of "lag spikes" We want to be as clear and concise as possible, but we aren't going to use colloqialisms to do so.

 

[Acanthus]

How is that out of context spidey?

Lag has been used as far back as i can remember in reference to latency.

"My connection is lagging"

"The server is lagging"

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: spidey07
Why would I know what in the world a lag spike is?

Use the proper terms....a temporary increase in rountrip latency resulting in an overall jitter deviation for a short period of time.

Because you dont want to say that every time you talk about it?

"lag spike" is not something ever used when speaking about networks. Using the proper terminology allows better communication.

Ive been using it for years... ive never had someone question it.

Look, what a bunch of 12 year olds playing CS say != the proper network terminology. I would feel embarrassed if one of my guys explained something to a client in terms of "lag spikes" We want to be as clear and concise as possible, but we aren't going to use colloqialisms to do so.

Understandable, but this conversation wasnt in a professional environment, it was on a forum.

 

[Acanthus]

Just to be clear, i dont care about its origins or usage.

I just wanted to know if everyone knew what it was.

 

[Acanthus]

So notfred was the only person that didnt know? (im not picking on you notfred, youre a good guy, im honestly asking)

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
How is that out of context spidey?

Lag has been used as far back as i can remember in reference to latency.

"My connection is lagging"

"The server is lagging"

Well I'm just trying to show you that the term is never used when speaking network communications. The only way "lag" would be used is on an overloaded router process.

"This process is lagging behind and causing some problems because higher priority processes are hogging resources"

The premise that it boggles your mind that others don't know boggles my mind that you are suprised by it. Network lingo/jargon is pretty darn universal, and "lag spike" is not something one would ever use or need to know.

I'm still not convinced that anybody can truly define it in real networking terms.

 

[Acanthus]

Well now that i know its gaming terminology it makes a lot more sense that the person didnt know what it was.

Lag spikes usually refer to the server stopping all response entirely for a period of time. It then "rubberbands" everyone to where the server thinks they are and does all of the commands that they entered during that period at once.

As you know theres a massive variety of possible causes, its just describing a symptom.

 

[FoBoT]

what does some game server thing have to do with corporate networks? which corporation(s) runs game servers internally?

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
what does some game server thing have to do with corporate networks? which corporation(s) runs game servers internally?

I assume Blizzard...

 

[FoBoT]

internally? sure , if they are a game company
i think more IT people work outside game companies than inside game companies

 

[Acanthus]

Again, i dont really care if its proper terminiology, or if it would be used in a professional enviornment.

I just wanted to know if people knew what it was.

It appears the consensus is that yes, most people, even those that dont work in IT, know what it is.

 

[spidey07]

dude, you are on a technology forum dominated by 16 year olds. Of a site that routinely tests computers with games.

the consensus is that most 16 year old gamers know what it is. Not that most people know what it is.

Step outside of yourself and see what I'm saying?

 

[zephyrprime]

I've never heard of it. I've never heard of it even while online gaming though I need to say I've never played CS. I think it's something that only gamers know. I've alway heard people use the word "lagging" rather than "lag spike" although I think lag spike is actually a better term because it's a little more precise in meaning.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: spidey07
dude, you are on a technology forum dominated by 16 year olds. Of a site that routinely tests computers with games.

the consensus is that most 16 year old gamers know what it is. Not that most people know what it is.

Step outside of yourself and see what I'm saying?

I still dont understand how you dont know what it is by definition.

Lag refers to slowing or falling behind.

Spike refers to a sudden increase.

Basic 5th grade level reading comprehension would tell you that when you say "lag spike" when referring to network connections, that you are referring to a sudden increase in latency.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Basic 5th grade level reading comprehension would tell you that when you say "lag spike" when referring to network connections, that you are referring to a sudden increase in latency.

I don't draw that conclusion, and neither do most network folks. sorry. You're trying to apply jargon from one area to another and it ain't gonna work.

 

[Acanthus]

You left out the rest of the post that explains what the quote means.

As long as you know what the 2 terms mean seperately, combining them in the right context would give you the correct definition.

Do you know what lava is?

Do you know what a fountain is?

Do you know what a lava fountain would be?

Have you heard the term before?

Its the same situation.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Basic 5th grade level reading comprehension would tell you that when you say "lag spike" when referring to network connections, that you are referring to a sudden increase in latency.

I don't draw that conclusion, and neither do most network folks. sorry. You're trying to apply jargon from one area to another and it ain't gonna work.

Sliding window?

 

[Eltano1]

Getting the :beer: and the salty peanuts to see what is coming next

Eltano

 

[thehstrybean]

Lag is bad...

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
You left out the rest of the post that explains what the quote means.

As long as you know what the 2 terms mean seperately, combining them in the right context would give you the correct definition.

Do you know what lava is?

Do you know what a fountain is?

Do you know what a lava fountain would be?

Have you heard the term before?

Its the same situation.

No, it's not. You're not getting it and I can't explain it to you any better. sorry.

It is a question of jargon - gamer jargon doesn't mesh with network jargon. Plain and simple.

Here, I think you need one of these...
http://www.killernic.com/KillerNic/

 

[drum]

the reason for your post was the fact that someone who works in a professional environment didn't know what the term meant. It doesn't matter that you were talking in a forum. He works in a professional place and didn't know. thats spideys whole point. of course this forum full of gamers would know.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Lag spike is comprised of two words La and gspike what these words mean will always be a mystery...

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Basic 5th grade level reading comprehension would tell you that when you say "lag spike" when referring to network connections, that you are referring to a sudden increase in latency.

I don't draw that conclusion, and neither do most network folks. sorry. You're trying to apply jargon from one area to another and it ain't gonna work.

Sliding window?

heh, talk about jargon.

"you see...it's a window that slides.....why is that so hard to comprehend????"