A question for people in IT

[Acanthus]

I have met someone on another forum who claims to be a network admin, but doesnt understand the term lag spike.

I cannot fathom this... Are there more of you out there?

 

[RedArmy]

Hold on a second, the intranetz is going m4d 5l0w

 

[Crescent13]

a network admin doesn't know what a lag spike is?!?

95% of the 12 year olds I see in CS source know what that means.

 

[spidey07]

Why would I know what in the world a lag spike is?

Use the proper terms....a temporary increase in rountrip latency resulting in an overall jitter deviation for a short period of time.

 

[EvilYoda]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Why would I know what in the world a lag spike is?

Use the proper terms....a temporary increase in rountrip latency resulting in an overall jitter deviation for a short period of time.

Redundant definition

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Why would I know what in the world a lag spike is?

Use the proper terms....a temporary increase in rountrip latency resulting in an overall jitter deviation for a short period of time.

Because you dont want to say that every time you talk about it?

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: EvilYoda

Originally posted by: spidey07
Why would I know what in the world a lag spike is?

Use the proper terms....a temporary increase in rountrip latency resulting in an overall jitter deviation for a short period of time.

Redundant definition

Not really.

the temporary latency increase will trend jitter deviation upward (it's statistical) for longer then the actual time of the latency.

so there.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: spidey07
Why would I know what in the world a lag spike is?

Use the proper terms....a temporary increase in rountrip latency resulting in an overall jitter deviation for a short period of time.

Because you dont want to say that every time you talk about it?

"lag spike" is not something ever used when speaking about networks. Using the proper terminology allows better communication.

 

[her209]

A lag spike means "a spike in lag".

 

[notfred]

google cannot define "lag spike": link
dictionary.com cannot define "lag spike": link
None of four different online "tech dictionaries" I tried could define "lag spike".
Wikipedia cannot define "lag spike": link

I think you just made up the term "lag spike".

 

[Acanthus]

Urban dictionary.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: notfred
google cannot define "lag spike": link
dictionary.com cannot define "lag spike": link
None of four different online "tech dictionaries" I tried could define "lag spike".
Wikipedia cannot define "lag spike": link

I think you just made up the term "lag spike".

notfred joins in the discussion with a strong dose of reality.
:thumbsup:

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: spidey07
Why would I know what in the world a lag spike is?

Use the proper terms....a temporary increase in rountrip latency resulting in an overall jitter deviation for a short period of time.

Because you dont want to say that every time you talk about it?

"lag spike" is not something ever used when speaking about networks. Using the proper terminology allows better communication.

Ive been using it for years... ive never had someone question it.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: notfred
google cannot define "lag spike": link
dictionary.com cannot define "lag spike": link
None of four different online "tech dictionaries" I tried could define "lag spike".
Wikipedia cannot define "lag spike": link

I think you just made up the term "lag spike".

notfred joins in the discussion with a strong dose of reality.
:thumbsup:

Its "e-slang" if you will.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: notfred

I think you just made up the term "lag spike".

As someone else pointed out, it's a common term in video games. Gamers made it up, he didn't.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: notfred

I think you just made up the term "lag spike".

As someone else pointed out, it's a common term in video games. Gamers made it up, he didn't.

Well, maybe his network admin doesn't play video games.

 

[Acanthus]

Network admins that dont play video games?

Im sacred

But yeah, thats probably where the discrepency lies.

Ill agree it isnt a technical term, but everyone here seemed to immediatly know what i was talking about.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: notfred

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: notfred

I think you just made up the term "lag spike".

As someone else pointed out, it's a common term in video games. Gamers made it up, he didn't.

Well, maybe his network admin doesn't play video games.

Yes, clearly.

I never said it was a correct term. But your list of dictionary links is meaningless. Not all multi-word phrases are in the dictionary. I wouldn't call it a lag spike, but I think "latency spike" would be an appropriate (and concise) term.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Ive been using it for years... ive never had someone question it.

Read my post again.

It is not a term used in network communications in anyway shape or form.

Even the term lag is not used in anyway shape or form. It's a made up term and completely normal for a professional to not have any idea what it means.

 

[clamum]

I knew what it was just because I've been playing video games online for a long time. Someone who doesn't probably wouldn't know what the phrase means. Though I don't think it would be too hard to figure out if you knew what the word "lag" meant, but maybe it's use is confined to, again, online games.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Network admins that dont play video games?

Im sacred

But yeah, thats probably where the discrepency lies.

Ill agree it isnt a technical term, but everyone here seemed to immediatly know what i was talking about.

So which is it?

drops?
increased latency (one way or both?)
increased jitter?

The term "lag" is insignificant. I just view it as an excuse for not being good enough.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Ive been using it for years... ive never had someone question it.

Read my post again.

It is not a term used in network communications in anyway shape or form.

Even the term lag is not used in anyway shape or form. It's a made up term and completely normal for a professional to not have any idea what it means.

lag1 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lg)
v. lagged, lag·ging, lags
v. intr.
To fail to keep up a pace; straggle.
To proceed or develop with comparative slowness: The electric current lags behind the voltage.
To fail, weaken, or slacken gradually; flag.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Even the term lag is not used in anyway shape or form. It's a made up term and completely normal for a professional to not have any idea what it means.

Yeah, I don't see why he would expect people to know that. I'm a programmer, but if some group of people in the Half-Life mod community started referring to "polymorphism" as "shapeshifting" I'd have no freaking clue WTF they were talking about.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Network admins that dont play video games?

Im sacred

But yeah, thats probably where the discrepency lies.

Ill agree it isnt a technical term, but everyone here seemed to immediatly know what i was talking about.

So which is it?

drops?
increased latency (one way or both?)
increased jitter?

The term "lag" is insignificant. I just view it as an excuse for not being good enough.

Lag spikes are sudden tremendous increases in latency that subside after a few seconds. Usually caused by routing problems between the client and server (damn you sprintlink!).

 

[randay]

lag. noun. slang for latency.
noob. noun. you.