abracadabra1
Diamond Member
That may be, but it sure as hell isn't his fault.
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A potential Purple Heart sized problem for Kerry with military and veteran voters
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That may be, but it sure as hell isn't his fault.
Red Dawn
Elite Member
That's because you are a Myopic Bush Apologist and nothing more. You use your status as a Vet to qualify your inane ramblings which is an insult to other Vets out there who refuse stoop to your level.
It's fine to question the Man's politics but when you question his integrity regarding his service, especially when he served honorably, you are no different than those people who allegedly spit on returning Vets from Nam.
Well, they say familiarity breeds contempt. Although I would hope your g/f and your mom woundn't make it that far. I'm not saying that just 'cause a person acted like a hero once or twice or forty times, he's are a hero every minute of every day.
The fact remains that Kerry used his three purple hearts to get out. He didn't get sent home because of his injuries. That doesn't diminish the sacrifices he did make, it just adds to the overall picture of the man and his character. He did his duty, which counts for a lot, and not one jot more, which also counts. And then he pretended to throw his medals over the fence onto the White House lawn, while in reality, he kept them and now displays them in his office. Given his constantly changing opinions on foreign and domestic policy, it seems that not much has changed since then.
xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Banned
Some have more integrity than others, perhaps.
Maybe one reason that Vietnam vets were spit upon is because of people like John Kerry. Only a dispicable individual would build a political career by demeaning America's fighting men and women.
Kerry and Fonda teamed up in Detroit to slander U.S. troops
xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Banned
Did you miss any duty? Kerry got 3 purple hearts and missed two-days of duty total for all of this...left early...had a deal to get a job with a Rear Admiral in D.C., then allowed to leave the service early to run for office...if you don't smell fish, you must be one.
Why doesn't he talk about it and open his medical records? He wants to throw medals in D.C. during his communist parties with Hanoi Jane, so why does he toot his war horn on the campaign trail like he's some kind of Sergeant Audie F*king Murphy ?
PingSpike
Lifer
That is my feeling as well. Given its the president who is in charge of the military and decides whether to send them to war or not, I'd like to have a guy in there who'd actually seen some combat. I'm sure some people disagree with me, but I think that past service allows them to understand the magnitude of the decision to go to war.
And while neither candidate has a great military record, Kerry's is signifigantly better than Bush's. At least he did something.
Yeah but Kerry served in the Jungles and had the nerve to testify about what he witnessed when he returned! How unAmerican can that be
On April 23, 1971, Hanoi John offered testimony to the US Senate denouncing our brave soldiers then fighting in Vietnam a bunch of rapists, murderers and war criminals that enjoyed torturing innocent civilians. Reciting the then-popular Communist propaganda line, he testified that US troops had "personally raped [Vietnamese civilians], cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephone to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan." Kerry later admitted he hadn't personally witnessed any of the atrocities he claimed his fellow soldiers had perpetrated. He also testified that there was no Communist threat and that the US was no better than the Communists that it was fighting.
If Kerry's anti-war behavior isn't un-American, what is?
xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Banned
His views on Memorial Day...'will never respect all that Memorial Day stands for'
xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Banned
Do you post the names of National Guard soldiers who have fallen in your link, too? I question this, as it seems you do not hold the job these soldiers perform in high regards, much like Hanoi John.
You can take your idiotic ASSumptions and shove them. I guess, by the same bullcrap token, I could deduce that your pathetic rants against Kerry mean that you do not hold Vietnam Combat Veterans in high regards, but I'm not nearly as moronic as you.
If you are going to whine and repeat lies at least get his final duty station correct!
"He remained on active duty for two more years with the Military Sea Transportation Service, Atlantic based in Brooklyn, New York. All told, he was on active duty from four years, from 1968 until 1972. He then joined the United States Naval Reserve where he served from 1972 to 1978, for a total of 10 years of military service."
Admiral's aide at the Brooklyn Naval Yard!
xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Banned
I neither hold "Vietnam Combat Veterans" who dislike all that Memorial Day stands for" in high regards, nor do I have high regards for veterans who blow their veteran horns on the campaign trails about how they are better than their opponents because they went to Vietnam, so you are safe to ASSume that, ma'am.
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"moronic?" nice touch...quite fitting of you.
xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Banned
Sorry, ma'am/sir/whatever...I was operating under the 'Don't ask; don't tell" premise.
Red Dawn
Elite Member
I personally know a Vet (High School Friend) who not only said he had taken potshots at Vietnamese villagers but also claims to have killed one while doing it all while being high on Heroin. Prior to volunteering he was about as straight an arrow as you would want to meet. This was a guy who volunteered to go there, what do you think those who were drafted and had no choice but to go over were like?You think that stuff never happened? You think My Lai was an isolated incident?Originally posted by: Berlin Riprorin
Yeah but Kerry served in the Jungles and had the nerve to testify about what he witnessed when he returned! How unAmerican can that be
On April 23, 1971, Hanoi John offered testimony to the US Senate denouncing our brave soldiers then fighting in Vietnam a bunch of rapists, murderers and war criminals that enjoyed torturing innocent civilians. Reciting the then-popular Communist propaganda line, he testified that US troops had "personally raped [Vietnamese civilians], cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephone to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan." Kerry later admitted he hadn't personally witnessed any of the atrocities he claimed his fellow soldiers had perpetrated. He also testified that there was no Communist threat and that the US was no better than the Communists that it was fighting.
If Kerry's anti-war behavior isn't un-American, what is?
I personally know a Vet (High School Friend) who not only said he had taken potshots at Vietnamese villagers but also claims to have killed one while doing it all while being high on Heroin. Prior to volunteering he was about as straight an arrow as you would want to meet. This was a guy who volunteered to go there, what do you think those who were drafted and had no choice but to go over were like?You think that stuff never happened? You think My Lai was an isolated incident?
Yes I think My Lai was a isolated incident, Your friend CLAIMS to have done that, Most the time I have heard things like that the guy was never in combat, For one thing you would have to know VietNam, No soldier would want to be stoned over there, I never seen one man even drunk while in a combat zone, You are paired in two's, One guy watches your back, He has your life in his hands would you let him use any drugs even if he could get them, Man we were in the field most all the time, Not many dealers running around a battle field, Some people watch to many movies about nam, As I said before I have talked to 1,000's of combat vets and none ever done or even seen any of the things Kerry said he done over there, No killing for the fun of it, No raping women, No killing babies, No using drugs, No cutting heads off unless it was in combat to kill only, Not after he was dead, I know talking on this is like spiting in the wind,
Yes I think My Lai was a isolated incident, Your friend CLAIMS to have done that, Most the time I have heard things like that the guy was never in combat, For one thing you would have to know VietNam, No soldier would want to be stoned over there, I never seen one man even drunk while in a combat zone, You are paired in two's, One guy watches your back, He has your life in his hands would you let him use any drugs even if he could get them, Man we were in the field most all the time, Not many dealers running around a battle field, Some people watch to many movies about nam, As I said before I have talked to 1,000's of combat vets and none ever done or even seen any of the things Kerry said he done over there, No killing for the fun of it, No raping women, No killing babies, No using drugs, No cutting heads off unless it was in combat to kill only, Not after he was dead, I know talking on this is like spiting in the wind,
TechJunkie95242
Banned
Thank you all that support Kerrys honorable service and help make his case to make these Bushies understand what it is to be patriotic. I have a question to the Kerry supporters, I have my own opinion, but I wonder why and how the Bush Administration can compare Max Cleland to Saddam Hussien and call that man unpatriotic after he lost 3 limbs in the war for fighting for our this country. I sincerely believe the Bush Administration should make a public apology to that man and to all the Vets they called unpatriotic because they don't believe we should go to war right away. We should exhaust all diplomatic, political and economic pressure on whoever opposes us first and then if the threat is REAL enough we only then can go to war with a clear conscience. Bush did not do that, instead he fabricated lies and evidence to further his own personal agenda because Saddam tried to kill his father, he had a bone to pick with Saddam and I believe that man to be one of the most if not the most dangerous man in the world. He is a disgrace to the presidency and should be held for war crimes.. But the question remains, and I eargerly await your response.
"20.Pakistani sources claim that there has been another bombshell in the admissions of guilt made by Khan's colleagues and juniors, who are still under custody and questioning. They are reported to have stated that during his over 40 visits to Dubai in the last three years, he had met Iraqi intelligence officials who sought his help in having some of the weapons of mass destruction (WMD) material of Iraq airlifted from Syria to Pakistan for being kept in safe custody there to prevent their falling into the hands of the UN inspectors. Khan allegedly agreed to their request. According to them, in October,2002, Khan had a Pakistani aircraft, which had gone to Iran to deliver some equipment, stop in a Syrian airport on its way back . It picked up the Iraqi WMD "material" and brought it to Pakistan for safe custody on behalf of Iraq. It is not clear what did they mean by material---only documents or something more? "
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"9. Why did Libya, like Iran, betray Pakistan by volunteering information about the role of Pakistan to its interlocutors from the US and the UK and subsequently from the IAEA when it was brought into the picture? What explains the total lack of concern of Iran and Libya to the embarrassment and difficulties which they would be creating for Pakistan by their singing on this subject? "
"11. A more acceptable reason is the fear caused among the leaders of Iran and Libya by the fate of Saddam Hussein at the hands of the US. The capture and public humiliation of Saddam have had no effect on the anti-US resistance movement in Iraq, but they have definitely had a sobering effect on many rulers of the Islamic world and made them more responsive to US concerns on the proliferation issue."
We are not there because he has a bone to pick with Saddam. Can you spell WTC?
The man's penchant for WMD and mass murder are well known and documented.
Don't worry, we'll find the WMD.
Bush'll get my vote. I don't question Kerry's service record but I don't like his politics that much.
Besides, Bush is getting the job done and you know the fable about switching horses in midstream...
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