A Possible Explanation for Trump's Pandemic Response

[uallas5]

He’s evil but he’s also so mentally ill that things like this are just way beyond his ability to do even in the best of circumstances.

He's like a wanna-be Bond villain. He's got some of the charisma but none of the intellect or ambition.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Something occurred to me a couple days ago, I've been hesitant to mention it, because of the implications. People that live in states with legal hunting are familiar with the word "cull". It means to control the numbers of a given population.

Since Covid affects people of color disproportionately, has anyone considered the possibility that Trump might be using the coronavirus to cull a certain segment of the population with his response to it?

If we take a historical perspective, let's say there was a disease that affected Jews disproportionately. If Hitler knew that, and failed to act on it, would he still be guilty of genocide? If the answer is yes, then all Trump is doing, is saving money on ovens.

How would you arrange a test that would disprove your own theory if it weren't really true? Any type of theory that you formulate is mere speculation, if the construction of the theory doesn't point to a means of such a test. The theoretician doesn't need to perform the test himself, but there must be a testable -- "refutable" implication. That tidbit of insight doesn't come from me, but rather from conservative Milton Friedman, in a collection of essays in a book of modest length called "The Methodology of Positive Economics."

That's just as important corollary to scientific method as any methodology for studying molecules, light waves, the biochemistry of DNA or any other field typically and myopically associated with physical things. If Trumpers have perspectives that are diversely distributed among his followers, I would bet that just for any recognition of science or reason at all, their idea of science is limited to the myopic view, and they are living in a wilderness that hides the Truth. And as I say -- the Truth about anything.

All of this prolix drivel being said (unless you were entertained), I have had this weak theory much as yours about a lot of things Trump does, and I also thought about it in regard to the COVID epidemic.

Look at it this way. There is a sieve of possibilities as to the way anything may happen in our choice definition of "an event". You can manufacture these "holes" as much as you can imagine them, but they actually have to be possible, so there would be logical inferences that would at least prove whether the holes exist, and logical inferences that will lead you to the hole with the largest probability. If data is missing, then maybe inferences are missing. Otherwise, there is a path to the Truth with almost mathematical rigor -- as, say -- Symbolic Logic.

I even ascribe to the possibility -- one I can't prove in the context I describe -- that Trump is the Spawn of Satan, that he's the Anti-Christ in the White House, and this all parallels the pestilence and turmoil described in (what is it?) Revelations (?)

But you have to catalog or categorize all the facts or as many facts as possible. Otherwise, they will not be available for making inferences, and your path will diverge or delay in getting to the Truth.

COVID originated in China. You could even consider whether the Russians planted it there, or anything else that is possible unless overturned by tacts.

The best intelligence supports the virus originating in a wet-market of Wuhan. This is coming from America's "Five Eyes" allies as well as our own. Trump was too stupid to even consider the Five Eyes, although he's slapped them all in the face, and they all despise him.

The Chuckleheads who support Trump are so confused in their ideals that they confuse the political symbol of "Freedom" as adverse to a mandate to protect society.

Trump didn't read his intelligence briefings about anything. Trump reads at perhaps the 10th-grade level, and is slow getting the words from a printed page through his eyes, into his brain, and converted to coherent thoughts.

They didn't know enough about COVID-19 to allow someone to plan its use, as opposed to its neutralization.

Instead, what I think we're witnessing, since Neo-Nazis were quoted laughing about spitting COVID-19 on Liberals, this shows how ignorant and stupid they are, not realizing that the garage-gym weight-lifting obsessions won't protect them against COVID if some factors make them vulnerable now -- or later. They're just wishing for it, but they're not instigating it.

Definitely an interesting speculation, however. I'll file it in a sieve for a different category of "stuff".

Put it this way. I will absolutely let myself BELIEVE that Trumpers are using COVID to exterminate the mud races. But I'm asking for proof. While I'm waiting for proof, I intend to pursue my ill-will and vindication as if Trumpers were using COVID to exterminate non-white parts of the population.

 

[pmv]

How would you arrange a test that would disprove your own theory if it weren't really true? Any type of theory that you formulate is mere speculation, if the construction of the theory doesn't point to a means of such a test. The theoretician doesn't need to perform the test himself, but there must be a testable -- "refutable" implication. That tidbit of insight doesn't come from me, but rather from conservative Milton Friedman, in a collection of essays in a book of modest length called "The Methodology of Positive Economics."

Surely that's just Karl Popper and the notion of falsifiability? Popper's idea, not Friedman's.
Not sure how you would apply that idea to itself, mind you. How would you disprove the theory of the falisifiability test?

In any case applying such a test would rule out of order almost any analysis of political history, as we can't really construct duplicate Earths with which to conduct experiments.

 

[Viper1j]

How would you arrange a test that would disprove your own theory if it weren't really true? Any type of theory that you formulate is mere speculation, if the construction of the theory doesn't point to a means of such a test. The theoretician doesn't need to perform the test himself, but there must be a testable -- "refutable" implication. That tidbit of insight doesn't come from me, but rather from conservative Milton Friedman, in a collection of essays in a book of modest length called "The Methodology of Positive Economics."

That's just as important corollary to scientific method as any methodology for studying molecules, light waves, the biochemistry of DNA or any other field typically and myopically associated with physical things. If Trumpers have perspectives that are diversely distributed among his followers, I would bet that just for any recognition of science or reason at all, their idea of science is limited to the myopic view, and they are living in a wilderness that hides the Truth. And as I say -- the Truth about anything.

All of this prolix drivel being said (unless you were entertained), I have had this weak theory much as yours about a lot of things Trump does, and I also thought about it in regard to the COVID epidemic.

Look at it this way. There is a sieve of possibilities as to the way anything may happen in our choice definition of "an event". You can manufacture these "holes" as much as you can imagine them, but they actually have to be possible, so there would be logical inferences that would at least prove whether the holes exist, and logical inferences that will lead you to the hole with the largest probability. If data is missing, then maybe inferences are missing. Otherwise, there is a path to the Truth with almost mathematical rigor -- as, say -- Symbolic Logic.

I even ascribe to the possibility -- one I can't prove in the context I describe -- that Trump is the Spawn of Satan, that he's the Anti-Christ in the White House, and this all parallels the pestilence and turmoil described in (what is it?) Revelations (?)

But you have to catalog or categorize all the facts or as many facts as possible. Otherwise, they will not be available for making inferences, and your path will diverge or delay in getting to the Truth.

COVID originated in China. You could even consider whether the Russians planted it there, or anything else that is possible unless overturned by tacts.

The best intelligence supports the virus originating in a wet-market of Wuhan. This is coming from America's "Five Eyes" allies as well as our own. Trump was too stupid to even consider the Five Eyes, although he's slapped them all in the face, and they all despise him.

The Chuckleheads who support Trump are so confused in their ideals that they confuse the political symbol of "Freedom" as adverse to a mandate to protect society.

Trump didn't read his intelligence briefings about anything. Trump reads at perhaps the 10th-grade level, and is slow getting the words from a printed page through his eyes, into his brain, and converted to coherent thoughts.

They didn't know enough about COVID-19 to allow someone to plan its use, as opposed to its neutralization.

Instead, what I think we're witnessing, since Neo-Nazis were quoted laughing about spitting COVID-19 on Liberals, this shows how ignorant and stupid they are, not realizing that the garage-gym weight-lifting obsessions won't protect them against COVID if some factors make them vulnerable now -- or later. They're just wishing for it, but they're not instigating it.

Definitely an interesting speculation, however. I'll file it in a sieve for a different category of "stuff".

Put it this way. I will absolutely let myself BELIEVE that Trumpers are using COVID to exterminate the mud races. But I'm asking for proof. While I'm waiting for proof, I intend to pursue my ill-will and vindication as if Trumpers were using COVID to exterminate non-white parts of the population.

You're missing it. It's not what he's doing, it's what he's NOT doing. He's not testing as much. He's not providing PPE as much. He's not providing needed equipment as much.

Like I said, sitting on his hands, and letting nature take its course.

Should a legitimate vaccine ever be developed, and he's still in office, I wonder how many of the "democratically run" states and cities will be allowed access to it.

 

[Viper1j]

Far too much planning required for President Lazy-Boy.
The simple answer is likely the correct answer, the President is too lazy and doesn't like to attend intel briefings and doesn't admit being wrong on anything ever.

Nobody has to plan anything to sleep in.

You just don't get out of bed that one day.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Surely that's just Karl Popper and the notion of falsifiability? Popper's idea, not Friedman's.
Not sure how you would apply that idea to itself, mind you. How would you disprove the theory of the falisifiability test?

In any case applying such a test would rule out of order almost any analysis of political history, as we can't really construct duplicate Earths with which to conduct experiments.

Actually, that's the problem I run into -- opportunities for experiments. Suppose someone hypothesizes the existence of certain facts, artifacts -- evidence -- if X is True? Then, one searches for the facts loosely predefined? If the facts don't exist, they certainly won't be found. On the other hand, if they do exist, they still might not be found because of various conditions. But if they exist and they can be found, well, you've moved reliability of a theory up a notch toward known Truth.

As to the matter you cite about "political history", it would depend as much on how you define events as observations . . . I suppose . . .

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Nobody has to plan anything to sleep in.

You just don't get out of bed that one day.

Yeah but that’s a missed responsibility not a goal. Missing the responsibility could help the goal.
The President is far, far too lazy, low energy, not smart enough to plan out what was described. Honestly he’d say on camera that was his plan. The guy can not control his lips.

 

[Muse]

Yes, it was reported months ago that T administration personnel (Jared?) decided that it wasn't politically expedient to stem a pandemic that was going to hit blue states worse. No doubt when NYC was epidemiologically on fire. Now, why Trump dismissed the pandemic is more complicated. Big part of it was he is just not a sympathetic person. He thinks about $$$, not people. For the most part, it's exactly that. What he can't wrap his head around is the idea that not quelling the epidemic is bad for the economy, that shutting down businesses, subtly and strategically is good for the economy in the long run. He can't grasp that. Way too subtle. So, thinking that his task is to get reelected (this is really all he cares about), he is trying to appeal to doubters. If he has to create doubt, that's part of his plan. Any way he can. A clear thinker he's not, never has been. He reacts.

Far too much planning required for President Lazy-Boy.
The simple answer is likely the correct answer, the President is too lazy and doesn't like to attend intel briefings and doesn't admit being wrong on anything ever.

It's worked for him. Never admit a weakness, an error of any kind. There are many Americans who like him for that. Pitiful state of affairs.

 

[cytg111]

He knows that his voters are so fucking stupid that they will still vote for him even while he is killing of their grandma and grandpa.
He just has to fire them up with some racist reteroic.

But majority of Trump voters are 60+ and white?
His "heard immunity" agenda is killing them? Cant vote if you are dead!
Only reason he would be doing this, logically, is that the appearance of a veining economy is worse over all.
I think.

 

[MtnMan]

But majority of Trump voters are 60+ and white?

And racist knuckle dragging fundy christians...

His "heard immunity" agenda is killing them? Cant vote if you are dead!
Only reason he would be doing this, logically, is that the appearance of a veining economy is worse over all.
I think.

Neither he, nor his base are smart enough to actually rationalize this concept.

I'm a boomer, and I am just astounded at how stupid my generation is. Very few boomers didn't sweat out the draft, some got lucky, many didn't, but only a very were able to take the cowards path of a whimpering coward they now admire.

 

[pcgeek11]

Wow. What a conspiracy theory.

 

[shortylickens]

Watching how he talks about black people and poor people at his rallies and in speeches it is extremely obvious he does not understand them at all. he clearly does not understand the concept they suffer more whenever theres nationwide problems.
I have no doubt he's fine with murdering minorities but he clearly isn't smart enough to think of that himself. When the lid finally came off his bullshit stew he had to strategize and at that point somebody much smarter than him made mention that blacks would probably die faster from coronavirus than whites. then he peed himself and wrote a love note to Putin.

 

[shortylickens]

Wow. What a conspiracy theory.

His staff members were already caught saying exactly what the OP said.
Did Fox News tell you to ignore reality or did you make then choice ahead of time and then gravitate towards Fox News?

 

[pcgeek11]

Watching how he talks about black people and poor people at his rallies and in speeches it is extremely obvious he does not understand them at all. he clearly does not understand the concept they suffer more whenever theres nationwide problems.
I have no doubt he's fine with murdering minorities but he clearly isn't smart enough to think of that himself. When the lid finally came off his bullshit stew he had to strategize and at that point somebody much smarter than him made mention that blacks would probably die faster from coronavirus than whites. then he peed himself and wrote a love note to Putin.

His staff members were already caught saying exactly what the OP said.
Did Fox News tell you to ignore reality or did you make then choice ahead of time and then gravitate towards Fox News?

The really scary part is I think you ( and others) actually believe this nonsense.

 

[Viper1j]

Watching how he talks about black people and poor people at his rallies and in speeches it is extremely obvious he does not understand them at all. he clearly does not understand the concept they suffer more whenever theres nationwide problems.
I have no doubt he's fine with murdering minorities but he clearly isn't smart enough to think of that himself. When the lid finally came off his bullshit stew he had to strategize and at that point somebody much smarter than him made mention that blacks would probably die faster from coronavirus than whites. then he peed himself and wrote a love note to Putin.

Stephen Miller?

 

[Muse]

Watching how he talks about black people and poor people at his rallies and in speeches it is extremely obvious he does not understand them at all

When he talks about black people and poor people he's thinking not of how his comments are taken by them but by the constituencies whose votes he's pandering. This man is conniving/cunning, that really does sum him up.

 

[MtnMan]

The really scary part is I think you ( and others) actually believe this nonsense.

No, the really scary part is that a significant segment of the population are too fucking stupid, or to enamored buy this lying bastard to not recognize this.

When dealing with a phschopath only an idiot takes anything off the table.

 

[woolfe9998]

To me the most likely reason is that fighting a pandemic takes sustained, meticulous effort over a long period of time and Trump is literally psychologically incapable of doing that. He tried doing the right thing briefly and then his mental processes broke down so he looked for people to fight instead.

He’s evil but he’s also so mentally ill that things like this are just way beyond his ability to do even in the best of circumstances.

I agree that most of it is general incompetence. He isn't very bright and doesn't work very hard.

There are some specific reasons for certain aspects of it, though. The inaction and downplaying of it through February was because Trump was worried that lockdowns would damage the economy he hoped to run on. And he was listening to Fox News commentators who were giving him hope that it wasn't a big deal and would just go away. For the same reason, he encouraging lockdowns to end sooner.

So some of it can be put down to Trump's ideas about whatever was politically beneficial to him at the time.

 

[MtnMan]

I agree that most of it is general incompetence. He isn't very bright and doesn't work very hard.

There are some specific reasons for certain aspects of it, though. The inaction and downplaying of it through February was because Trump was worried that lockdowns would damage the economy he hoped to run on. And he was listening to Fox News commentators who were giving him hope that it wasn't a big deal and would just go away. For the same reason, he encouraging lockdowns to end sooner.

So some of it can be put down to Trump's ideas about whatever was politically beneficial to him at the time.

Saying he isn't very bright is pulling your punches. He is fucking stupid. Remember he didn't know people died from the flu?
Or how about;

• Windmills cause cancer
• Nuke hurricanes
• inject people with disinfectant
• Revolutionary Army took over airports in the 1700's
• The F35 jets are totally invisible
• If you wash coal, it is clean coal
• The virus is a hoax, and will be gone by April.

 

[Greenman]

Something occurred to me a couple days ago, I've been hesitant to mention it, because of the implications. People that live in states with legal hunting are familiar with the word "cull". It means to control the numbers of a given population.

Since Covid affects people of color disproportionately, has anyone considered the possibility that Trump might be using the coronavirus to cull a certain segment of the population with his response to it?

If we take a historical perspective, let's say there was a disease that affected Jews disproportionately. If Hitler knew that, and failed to act on it, would he still be guilty of genocide? If the answer is yes, then all Trump is doing, is saving money on ovens.

That's some serious paranoia.

 

[Muse]

Saying he isn't very bright is pulling your punches. He is fucking stupid. Remember he didn't know people died from the flu?
Or how about;

• Windmills cause cancer
• Nuke hurricanes
• inject people with disinfectant
• Revolutionary Army took over airports in the 1700's
• The F35 jets are totally invisible
• If you wash coal, it is clean coal
• The virus is a hoax, and will be gone by April.

Yes, the man is incredibly stupid and very dangerous. The only reason he hasn't started a war is that whenever he thinks of it he realizes he won't be able to get a moment's sleep with the turmoil in his brain. He's already a complete and irretrievable mess. Actually he was just plain lucky that we weren't drawn into another mid-east war when he offed Soleimani.

The average housewife would make a far better president. I hope you don't think I'm sexist there, I think the statement is absolutely true.

 

[MtnMan]

Yes, the man is incredibly stupid and very dangerous. The only reason he hasn't started a war is that whenever he thinks of it he realizes he won't be able to get a moment's sleep with the turmoil in his brain. He's already a complete and irretrievable mess. Actually he was just plain lucky that we weren't drawn into another mid-east war when he offed Soleimani.

The average housewife would make a far better president. I hope you don't think I'm sexist there, I think the statement is absolutely true.

One reason he hasn't started a war is the pentagon brass are at least smart enough to not put all options on the table, and not present options that would definitely start a war. They know he is a loose cannon.

Which considering he wants to be a "war president" is probably wise. He has declared that the pandemic makes him a war president, and we see how well he has dealt with that.

 

[Muse]

One reason he hasn't started a war is the pentagon brass are at least smart enough to not put all options on the table, and not present options that would definitely start a war. They know he is a loose cannon.

Which considering he wants to be a "war president" is probably wise. He has declared that the pandemic makes him a war president, and we see how well he has dealt with that.

He likes spinning crazy, gets him attention. Crazy won't stop 'til he's outta there. Jamie Yuccas, network TV news anchor yesterday said Trump had made 89 tweets between ~5AM and 8AM I believe Sunday morning. Glad I didn't read them. One was just this:

LAW & ORDER

He's trying real hard to get votes with that theme right now. Biden was right that Trump wants violence now in the cities, that he's using it "politically."

 

[JEDIYoda]

Wow. What a conspiracy theory.

your life is a conspiracy theorie!!

 

[Viper1j]

That's some serious paranoia.

Was the Holocaust serious paranoia?