A Photo I Took

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vbuggy

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Nice. NZ sure is a beautiful place. I wish there was more of an actual worthwhile reason to go there on even a rare basis :p
 
DT4K

DT4K

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shocksyde said:
GA, you take some great shots but you need to read about the "rule of thirds."
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I'm just a beginner, but it seems like his photo is following the rule, at least depending on how you interpret it.

The far edge of the water is pretty close to 1/3 of the way from the bottom (at least on the left side). And that tree coming up out of the water is pretty close to the intersection of the 1/3 lines on the bottom and right.
I also see the reflection of the mountains in the water as a focal point of the photo and they are also positioned around the bottom 1/3 line.

Telling someone they need to read about one of the fundamental rules of composition is NOT constructive criticism. It came off sounding arrogant. Constructive criticism would be making specific suggestions on things you think would make the photos better.
 
GodlessAstronomer

GodlessAstronomer

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shocksyde said:
Jesus Christ. Chill the fuck out, doucher.

In response to your ridiculous assumptions and accusations:
1. You've read 50,000+ books? Impressive.
2. Novice? No.
3. Just a guideline? You're right. I had one sentence to work with, so I chose to use "rule" instead of "guideline" because EVERYBODY CALLS IT THE "RULE OF THIRDS."
4. http://www.flickr.com/photos/iamaelephant/3196310166/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iamaelephant/3636949377/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iamaelephant/4620417539/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iamaelephant/3677376620/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iamaelephant/2474846315/ <-- This picture is absolutely incredible, or at least it would be, if you hadn't cut the damn boat off. Please tell me you have a RAW file without the boat cut off, and I'll crop it how I think it should be.
5. Critique is the only way to get better, and if you can't handle it, don't share your photos. You're free to look at my stuff and tear it a new asshole. I enjoy the comments.

Now stop being a fucking asshole all the time, OK?
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I find your choice of pictures to make your point very interesting indeed. I will respond to each one.

1. One of my favourite pictures. How is this photograph in any way harmed by not following the rule to a T? The cat is not centered in the frame and it is framed in such a way that one side of his body uses the right-hand third of the frame while the left-hand third remains negative space.
2. Just a poor photograph, I'm not even sure why that one is on my Flickr account. You're right in this case.
3. See above.
4. The tower of the cathedral follows a vertical 1/3rd line almost perfectly. It also intersects the ground on a 1/3rd intersection point, and the horizon is approximately on a 1/3rd line.
5. That photograph was impossible to frame in any other way due to what was on the right hand side of the frame. Despite that it is among my most popular images, so how has failure to follow the rule impacted it negatively?

Critique is one thing and I very much appreciate it, but like DT4K said, RoT is like chapter 1 in Photography 101 and telling me I need to read about it is borderline insulting. And again from DT4K's post, if you actually consider for a second the focal points of the image in the OP you'd realize than in fact the "rule" has been followed to some degree. RoT is not synonymous with "horizons must lie on a 1/3rd line!!1"
 
GodlessAstronomer

GodlessAstronomer

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ViviTheMage said:
need higher res, and probably should have posted in the photo section.
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I don't generally post my photos here at all because I'm not really into the self-promotion thing on AT, but this one I wanted to share. I considered posting in the photo gear forum but I hate that place because all anyone cares about there is gear. My gear is basic and I don't subscribe to the silly idea that you need to spend a jillion dollars on lenses and fancy bodies to make nice images.

The links in the OP have wallpaper-sized resolutions.
 
Aharami

Aharami

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very nice, GA!
did you happen to take a panoramic? Would love to fill my 3200x1200 desktop with that pic
 
Aharami

Aharami

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shortylickens said:
If its not cats, I dont give a fuck.
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Now do you care?
 
Aharami

Aharami

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shocksyde said:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iamaelephant/2474846315/ <-- This picture is absolutely incredible, or at least it would be, if you hadn't cut the damn boat off.
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I personally think the picture comes out better with the subject pushed all the way out to one side of the frame. If he'd included any more of the boat, he would have gotten some of the dock, which would take away from the calmness of the water
 
shocksyde

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GodlessAstronomer said:
I find your choice of pictures to make your point very interesting indeed. I will respond to each one.

1. One of my favourite pictures. How is this photograph in any way harmed by not following the rule to a T? The cat is not centered in the frame and it is framed in such a way that one side of his body uses the right-hand third of the frame while the left-hand third remains negative space.
2. Just a poor photograph, I'm not even sure why that one is on my Flickr account. You're right in this case.
3. See above.
4. The tower of the cathedral follows a vertical 1/3rd line almost perfectly. It also intersects the ground on a 1/3rd intersection point, and the horizon is approximately on a 1/3rd line.
5. That photograph was impossible to frame in any other way due to what was on the right hand side of the frame. Despite that it is among my most popular images, so how has failure to follow the rule impacted it negatively?

Critique is one thing and I very much appreciate it, but like DT4K said, RoT is like chapter 1 in Photography 101 and telling me I need to read about it is borderline insulting. And again from DT4K's post, if you actually consider for a second the focal points of the image in the OP you'd realize than in fact the "rule" has been followed to some degree. RoT is not synonymous with "horizons must lie on a 1/3rd line!!1"
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I don't have time to download the pics and crop them in a manner which I feel they would look best, but I'll respond to your counterpoints...

1. In my mind, the focus of this picture is the eyes. The eyes are in the direct center of the photograph.
4. You're right, not a great example. But the spire touching the top of the photo bothers the hell out of me.
5. I can't comment on what prevented you from being able to not cut off the boat. I can only comment on the final picture, and as I said before, the boat being cut off bothers me.

Like I said before: YOU TAKE GREAT PICTURES, I am just pointing some things out.

Claiming that I'm a photo noob who just read the first chapter of a photography book is so ridiculous, I don't even know how to respond.

I completely regret saying anything in the first place, which is unfortunate.

I will conclude by saying rules are made to be broken. I, too, break them all the time. Your style is your style and there's no reason at all for you to change it because of me.
 
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