a person driving a suburban by themselves is getting less passenger-mpg than a concorde

ElFenix

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concorde got 14 passenger miles per gallon, according to wikipedia.
an A380 gets 80 passenger miles per gallon.
a 747-400 can get over 100 passenger miles per gallon! (using a 2 class seating arrangement for 524 passengers and using the quoted optimum 5 gallons per mile)
 

Triumph

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No surprise there, the engine is working to move the car, you're just an afterthought.
 

Tom

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But the Suburban is actually more fuel efficient than any of those planes if you bring along 8 passengers.

 

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Originally posted by: johngute
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
All the more reason to join the Anti-SUV Brigade!!!

where do i join up?

There are all sorts of positions open in the organization. Pick a title and it's yours. Make sure to add it to your sig. :D
 

Triumph

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Originally posted by: SKM2K
Horrible logic is being used in the OP.

How so? Calculating passenger miles per gallon is an accepted practice. It should be obvious, what is more efficient, 8 people driving 8 cars somewhere, or 8 people in 1 Suburban?
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Tom
But the Suburban is actually more fuel efficient than any of those planes if you bring along 8 passengers.

Yup, which is why there's nothing wrong with using an SUV for its intended purpose. I just wish that people would stop buying them to be trendy, or out of a mistaken belief in additional safety.

But it's all been said before...
 

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Lets look at the energy density of the differnt fuels, the cost per unit fuel, the cost per refinement per unit fuel, ect. You can't just compare like that.
 

iamwiz82

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When Air France retired the Concorde it's load factor was around 40%, your stats assume 100%
 

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Cool. I'll take the Concorde to work tomorrow.
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lol, I think this is more for the irony factor and just because it's funny to those who hate SUV's, at least those with a single person in them :p ;)
 

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So uh....did I miss the MPG of the suburban or did he not post it?

Also, this would work better with a hummer, less room for passengers and I suspect less gas milage. Or heck, go look up the average garbage truck.
 

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So by the OP's own idiotic logic, everyone should be riding in 747's, since no car on the road today gets 100 mpg.

Even if the Suburban got 25 mpg, it would still be worse than the other two planes.

And my Suburban gets over 15 mpg even with my leadfoot wife driving and 99% of her miles are city.
 

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What is the passenger mpg for that concord with only 1 person in it, the pilot. Compare apples to apple when you go for comparisons.
 

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You should compare a jet to a bus, since they'd be close to the same thing. Mass people movers. An airplane is like a bus in the air.
 

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
So by the OP's own idiotic logic, everyone should be riding in 747's, since no car on the road today gets 100 mpg.

Even if the Suburban got 25 mpg, it would still be worse than the other two planes.

And my Suburban gets over 15 mpg even with my leadfoot wife driving and 99% of her miles are city.

what idiot logic? i posted a fact (one that i thought was somewhat surprising). do you dispute that concorde could achieve better passenger-mpg than a suburban with just the driver?