A new playground, GIRL's/WOMEN's INPUT WANTED

[SirFshAlot]

I agree, you never want to change yourself for a woman, not any cercumstances. it always ends up that your miserable because you aren't allowing yourself to be who you really are.

depends......

who are you, really?

are you changeable? adaptable?

are you the same person you were 5 years ago? 10 years ago?

if you changed, why?

would you for a person you loved? if not, then why?

I agree that putting on a facade is cheap, and not worthy of respect or admiration.
But compromise, and progression, is paramount in life, IMHO.

 

[Urinal Mint]

I think whoever said that really meant not being yourself in order to catch someone's eye. Compromise in a relationship is tantamount rather than paramount, however. Sex comes first.











(joke)

 

[obiwaynekenobi]

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<< UnixFreak has been trying to do that since Friday... fire away! >>


Well let me put it this way, you know how some girls are just a step up from your hand, I see UnixFreak as being one step up from a vibrator.
Both are good when thats all you want but sooner or later the novetly of that kind of toy wears off. >>


OMG I am laughing so hard right now aahahahahahah. >>



see that is the other thing, It's ok for men to master*** but not for woman? or to use a viberator. I've asked several woman if they had a viberator just HANDED to them. if they would ever consider using it. and most of them said no... of course I also once got one the response of &quot;I'm using it now....&quot;

 

[Urinal Mint]

I got my ex-gf to use one after about a year of dating... she loves the thing now. Says she would gladly hand it over for the real thing, though.

 

[UnixFreak]

<< all of my friends where I Grew up were female but that doesn't mean that I Was sleeping with them all. >>




That's usually the case. Being and freinds, and not having sex, usually go hand in hand. Much to the man's dismay, I may add.

 

[herself]

I think what obi is saying by not changing yourelf is to not compromise yourself, who you are, and your values in order to fit the mold of what someone else thinks you should be. Or at least, that's what I would mean. Of course there is a level of compromise to be expected in any relationship... that doesn't mean you have to change who you are for that person, or let them change you into something you don't want to be.

Tamara

 

[obiwaynekenobi]

<< I agree, you never want to change yourself for a woman, not any cercumstances. it always ends up that your miserable because you aren't allowing yourself to be who you really are.

depends......

who are you, really?

are you changeable? adaptable?

are you the same person you were 5 years ago? 10 years ago?

if you changed, why?

would you for a person you loved? if not, then why?

I agree that putting on a facade is cheap, and not worthy of respect or admiration.
But compromise, and progression, is paramount in life, IMHO. >>



If you put on an act to pretend to be something you really aren't to get/keep the girl then when it comes 6 month 1 year later you may be miserable, because you may adapt and apdapt and adapt but there will be a part of you that may not be able to. because it forces you to be something or someone your not.

I was with one woman who insisted that we had sex 5 times a night. (she didn't understand how someone could ge sore) plus treated her like a queen and I Was a bulter. this isn't the 12th centery and I'm being paid for services. I don't mind doing things for the person I'm with I rather enjoy it but when it comes to the point where you are doing ti so they won't get mad and they throw you out of the house because you don't want to have sex. it becomes more of a slave/master relationship and if you start feeling like a slave then you really aren't in the right relationship.

 

[UnixFreak]

When I say I am being an @sshole to women, who says I am not being myself?

 

[obiwaynekenobi]

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<< all of my friends where I Grew up were female but that doesn't mean that I Was sleeping with them all. >>




That's usually the case. Being and freinds, and not having sex, usually go hand in hand. Much to the man's dismay, I may add. >>



but that doesn't make me a pig or a womanize because I have female friends.

 

[Urinal Mint]

<< When I say I am being an @sshole to women, who says I am not being myself? >>


I don't think anyone said you weren't being you... I think someone made mention of the fact that trying to be an asshole might help them get more of these superficial women. That's the &quot;not being yourself&quot; they were focusing on, I believe.

 

[obiwaynekenobi]

<< I think what obi is saying by not changing yourelf is to not compromise yourself, who you are, and your values in order to fit the mold of what someone else thinks you should be. Or at least, that's what I would mean. Of course there is a level of compromise to be expected in any relationship... that doesn't mean you have to change who you are for that person, or let them change you into something you don't want to be.

Tamara >>



Exactly You shouldn't go into a relationship thinking &quot;I'm going to change myself in this way because that's the they that he/she wants it&quot; or even worse &quot;I&quot;m going to change him/her becuase it's what best for them&quot;

You will change on your in a relationship in it's own way but you shouldn't do it because it's excepted.

However I believe that ther are certian limitations. I will date a smoker, but I will not kiss one. I am allergic to ciggs. I do not want to die.

 

[FireGal]

Everyone else is adding their opinions so here is mine.

As a female I did find myself attracted to the @ssholes. BUT that was because I didn't have enough self respect for myself to think i could ever get a great guy. What I always wanted was a man who would take the lead in a relationship not put me down while doing it.

Now I know there are guys out there and they are definately worth waiting for. Any of you &quot;nice&quot; guys please don't change. There really are women out there that want a man to treat them like a lady, and respect them. Doesn't mean you have to be a whimp or a @sshole. There is plenty of space to be inbetween. But the most important thing is be yourself and be honest. I can say women hate men that lie to them.

 

[obiwaynekenobi]

<< When I say I am being an @sshole to women, who says I am not being myself? >>



if that is who you are then by all means. as long as your happy being a FvckTwit to the female population then why change yourself. but eventully it'll probably come back and kick you in the A$$

 

[UnixFreak]

<< I can say women hate men that lie to them. >>



Another example of twisting what I say to make it work for you. Did I say anything about lying? I tell women right up front I dont want a relationship, and you know what? They like it. The &quot;challenge&quot; aspect I was talking about.

 

[obiwaynekenobi]

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<< I can say women hate men that lie to them. >>



Another example of twisting what I say to make it work for you. Did I say anything about lying? I tell women right up front I dont want a relationship, and you know what? They like it. The &quot;challenge&quot; aspect I was talking about. >>




so you really are in it for the sex, I hope you can full'fill' the challenge you proposed. otherwise the woman might leave &quot;feeling&quot; a bit &quot;empty&quot; from your encounter.

 

[herself]

Unix... when men who say they don't want a relationship end up in my bed... they're always the hardest ones to kick out.

&quot;But baby, I'm all worn out, let me stay just a minute...&quot;

&quot;Um, you said you weren't interested in a relationship... now get your clothing and leave, I'm done with you&quot;

&quot;But...&quot;

&quot;Zzzzt!&quot;



Tamara

 

[Urinal Mint]

<< Another example of twisting what I say to make it work for you. Did I say anything about lying? I tell women right up front I dont want a relationship, and you know what? They like it. The &quot;challenge&quot; aspect I was talking about. >>


I don't think you ever came right out and said that, specifically. If you tell them up front you don't want anything serious, hell, that's cool. I tell them the same thing... that is, if that's all I want is a friendship or something. If I want something more, I'm not afraid to say that either.

 

[obiwaynekenobi]

<< Unix... when men who say they don't want a relationship end up in my bed... they're always the hardest ones to kick out. >>



hey I'll leave nightly as long as I can come back the next night.

 

[Urinal Mint]

<< hey I'll leave nightly as long as I can come back the next night. >>


Yeah, I don't mind sleeping in my own bed alone so long as the girl wants another helping of the cookies soon, and both people realize that there are no strings attached.

 

[obiwaynekenobi]

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<< Another example of twisting what I say to make it work for you. Did I say anything about lying? I tell women right up front I dont want a relationship, and you know what? They like it. The &quot;challenge&quot; aspect I was talking about. >>


I don't think you ever came right out and said that, specifically. If you tell them up front you don't want anything serious, hell, that's cool. I tell them the same thing... that is, if that's all I want is a friendship or something. If I want something more, I'm not afraid to say that either. >>



It's like A quote I read somewhere.
A woman can fake an orgasm, but only a man can fake an entire relationship.

so when a guy actully says &quot;I'm just in it for sex&quot; believe him because it's probably the only time he's telling the truth.

 

[UnixFreak]

<< I hope you can full'fill' the challenge you proposed. otherwise the woman might leave &quot;feeling&quot; a bit &quot;empty&quot; from your encounter. >>




The only thing I fill is condoms, cheif. I dont advise unprotected sex. Although I am surprised nobody has accused me of that yet.




<< so when a guy actully says &quot;I'm just in it for sex&quot; believe him because it's probably the only time he's telling the truth.
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I agree 100%

 

[obiwaynekenobi]

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<< hey I'll leave nightly as long as I can come back the next night. >>


Yeah, I don't mind sleeping in my own bed alone so long as the girl wants another helping of the cookies soon, and both people realize that there are no strings attached. >>



or they are long freaking strings that goes to several other beds. Who was it that was macking on three four woman at once? was it Dannylove? or Thredes?

 

[obiwaynekenobi]

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<< I hope you can full'fill' the challenge you proposed. otherwise the woman might leave &quot;feeling&quot; a bit &quot;empty&quot; from your encounter. >>




The only thing I fill is condoms, cheif. I dont advise unprotected sex. Although I am surprised nobody has accused me of that yet.




<< so when a guy actully says &quot;I'm just in it for sex&quot; believe him because it's probably the only time he's telling the truth.
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I agree 100% >>



yeah but even condoms are only 97% failproof. and they won't even protect you from the aids Virus. it's too small goes right through the latex.

I can see your headstone now
&quot;unixfreak was a slut
he liked to get it in the butt
he fvcked a whore and
became no more
because AIDS knocked at his......&quot;

you get the idea..

 

[herself]

So when did you two want me to email you the address?
And are you opposed to being here at the same time???

Hahha! I'm kidding, don't get any ideas!

Tamara

 

[obiwaynekenobi]

I gotta go I can't wait to see the response tomarrow