a-neuroscientist-explains-what-may-be-wrong-with-trump-supporters-brains

[Jhhnn]

Cities in the US are the primary engines of economic growth currently. The idea that they are 'decaying' requires some impressive denial of reality.

You should probably be careful calling anyone a moron when you're getting basic stuff like that wrong.

And, from his description, it sounds like SF hasn't changed since the 60's.

He also forgets to mention he real decay in places like small town East Texas where TH lives, a process that's been ongoing for decades. No jobs. No money. No opportunity. It's hard for young adults to build enough of a nest egg to even move to greener pastures.

Anybody planning on moving out to the country needs to bring their own money.

 

[Moonbeam]

All these appeals to reason and logic and facts when none on them will work. LunarRay was the first one who gave me the really bad news, trying to teach pigs to fly just upsets the pigs. What do I really know about pig-flight training. Ah, I have a hammer and the problem is a nail. I just need to flatten the pigs heads our to make them aero plane. But what if the task is hopeless? If it is, should I take my flight instructions seriously? Maybe there is something inside of me that drives me to use the hammer on my own head.

 

[0roo0roo]

The left flatter themselves.

Especially academics like the one who wrote the cherry picked pseudo scientific trash.

To put it simply, you need only look at how academia is governed and has devolved to question their wisdom. The rise of pseudo science, and toxic ideology .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-nvNAcvUPE
Never mind the profligate spending of other peoples(the students) money(debt)

Dunning -kruger indeed

 

[Moonbeam]

The left flatter themselves.

Especially academics like the one who wrote the cherry picked pseudo scientific trash.

To put it simply, you need only look at how academia is governed and has devolved to question their wisdom. The rise of pseudo science, and toxic ideology .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-nvNAcvUPE
Never mind the profligate spending of other peoples(the students) money(debt)

Dunning -kruger indeed

How could I a sufferer of Dunning Kruger disease possible have the mental skills to know if the opinion of the academic was cherry picked pseudo scientific trash or the video you cherry picked was something with appeal only to delusional minds? All you offered and typically offer when you post are the opinions of cultish freaks. Can you express from personal understanding why these freaks have more value than academics. And why would I, who has no capacity to really judge who is expert and who isn't, want to substitute my doubt in the wisdom of academics for the wisdom of somebody like yourself? If the so called experts know nothing how much more likely is it that you would know anything? What would you offer to suggest yourself to be of sound mind? As long as you are going to push a paranoid view of the world, I may buy into it whole hog and include you as just another deluded so called expert. Trust me when I tell you that I not such a fool as to trust myself so why the fuck would I ever, ever, trust you, you fucking-like-every-other-expert-nutcase.

 

[OverVolt]

Cities in the US are the primary engines of economic growth currently. The idea that they are 'decaying' requires some impressive denial of reality.

You should probably be careful calling anyone a moron when you're getting basic stuff like that wrong.

Well its like the casino they put in Maryland. Its a big on-the-books budget boost, but in terms of its actual economic effects all it does is increase wealth inequality and generate literally nothing of value. But it is a pretty good circle jerk of sales and taxes boosting GDP.

In my experience thats how most cities operate. A bunch of tech companies buying each other out looks good on paper but then again all the homeless people on the street don't care about that. I wouldn't really call them engines of economic growth but maybe engines of homelessness. If you're in on it by where you work, great!!! Good for you. But in terms of fostering an actual middle class you can forget about it. Cities are constantly booming and busting. Thats the whole problem is the constant push for growth led to endless bubbles. One pops and we need another one to cover it up.

SF 2010 will just end up like Detroit 1970. Boom and bust. Thats what its all about to you eh?

The only people who can ever get in and get out of a boom and bust city are single people. So the US family unit is largely destroyed.

But so long as it looks good on paper while society more or less entirely degrades right.

Whats the single mother rate in these engines of economic growth? Hmm. So what exactly is it growing then?

 

[Perknose]

The left flatter themselves.

Especially academics like the one who wrote the cherry picked pseudo scientific trash.

To put it simply, you need only look at how academia is governed and has devolved to question their wisdom. The rise of pseudo science, and toxic ideology .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-nvNAcvUPE
Never mind the profligate spending of other peoples(the students) money(debt)

Dunning -kruger indeed

How could I a sufferer of Dunning Kruger disease possible have the mental skills to know if the opinion of the academic was cherry picked pseudo scientific trash or the video you cherry picked was something with appeal only to delusional minds? All you offered and typically offer when you post are the opinions of cultish freaks. Can you express from personal understanding why these freaks have more value that academics. And why would I, who has no capacity to really judge who is expert and who isn't want to substitute my doubt in the wisdom of academics for the wisdom of somebody like yourself? If the so called experts know nothing how much more likely is it that you would know anything? What would you offer to suggest yourself to be of sound mind? As long as you are going to push a paranoid view of the world, I may buy into it whole hog and include you as just another deluded so called expert. Trust me when I tell you that I not such a fool as to trust myself so why the fuck would I ever, ever, trust you, you fucking-like-every-other-expert-nutcase.

Wow. Reading the exchange above is like eavesdropping on a conversation between some cross between Einstein and the Buddha . . . and a squirrel..

Buddhastein, dang, that dude's sure spinning some elliptic but beautific cosmic gossamer argument in his reply. You have to admire the intricate beauty of it all. But you also just know it's almost criminally wasted on that damn squirrel.

The days are getting short and winter is coming. All that squirrel cares about is nuts . . . and links to nuts.

 

[brycejones]

]cherry picked pseudo scientific trash.

How ironic given your posting history here.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

You make a good point, which is why I edited my post to "more often irrational" before posting.

Fight or flight response isn't ever informed by rational/irrational consideration, because it wouldn't be an effective and useful response--it is a useful and necessary selective instinct and we know this because it is brain-stem level function (what we call "reptilian responses"--the part of the brain that all animals share--yes, even humans and lizards). For an effective fight or flight response, no thinking can be involved. It is purely reactionary, so you have a more or less equal-or-worse chance of running into greater danger in an attempt to flee, or marching towards death by decided to fight that bear. Yeah, sometimes you have no choice (can't get around that bear if you are backed into a cave), but we do know that the selection tends to favor those that intentionally avoid these threats--putting themselves in situations where flight/fight would actually be triggered. This argues that allowing oneself to be in a position to consider, and interpret, the consequences of a certain event is preferable to following a course that inevitably gets you trapped in a cave with that bear.

All of this is rather difficult to attribute to things like human interpretations of complicated political, geopolitical, social interactions. It sort of invokes the silly specter of "social darwinism" (a theory which, in no way, is applicable to the function of natural selection--a psychosocial designation that may be popular in literature, but isn't science).

The argument wasn't that "many refuges might be terrorists" and so that is OK--the argument is that the actual number--far, far less than 1% might be--and so that is OK. This is the same kind of risk we have always had when it comes to threats from immigration. Essentially non-significant. ...however, I don't like to equate the risk of a terrorist with the risk of something like traffic deaths or falling in your shower or even any other kind of random or targeted murder. I do think that the specter of terrorism and the risk of such has a greater effect on the population than can be determined by simple numbers.

Sure, the initial fear response is separate from that of directed thought, but it's a simplification to interpret that as meaning even the most fearful individuals go around only experiencing far responses all day long. I don't think your analogy is relevant or even true; a guy in the middle of the woods almost certainly has better odds of running into something that isn't another bear if he chooses to run. Because even fearful humans are capable of processing their impulses and making longer-term decisions based on them, there are many factors that probably led the dude into the forest in the first place. Perhaps this is a world-famous bear forest and he entered because he had not yet directly faced the terror of a massive grizzly approaching him. Maybe an even more fearful man said "You know, bear attacks are rare but still scary as hell, I'll watch a Nat Geo documentary instead". The analogy would be that the Middle-East (a place of limited human rights, religious extremism, and violence) is like the forest, and the most fear-driven conservatives don't even want to touch it. Unless that somehow promotes greater danger in the long run? Seventy years of interventionism by our government in that part of the world in search of delicious honey/oil tells me otherwise.

Even putting aside terrorism (I don't personally have issue with equating it with other things that kill us; I'd rather see a war on drunk driving be waged than a war on terror), we live under a roughly representative form of government where our population determines its direction. That can be an issue if you have a significant population with values that differ from those a nation currently holds. While I don't think you personally have ever advocated bringing people in by the millions, others on this forum left-of-center literally have. That's a product of an extremely suppressed fear/disgust response.

 

[fskimospy]

Well its like the casino they put in Maryland. Its a big on-the-books budget boost, but in terms of its actual economic effects all it does is increase wealth inequality and generate literally nothing of value. But it is a pretty good circle jerk of sales and taxes boosting GDP.

In my experience thats how most cities operate. A bunch of tech companies buying each other out looks good on paper but then again all the homeless people on the street don't care about that. I wouldn't really call them engines of economic growth but maybe engines of homelessness. If you're in on it by where you work, great!!! Good for you. But in terms of fostering an actual middle class you can forget about it. Cities are constantly booming and busting. Thats the whole problem is the constant push for growth led to endless bubbles. One pops and we need another one to cover it up.

SF 2010 will just end up like Detroit 1970. Boom and bust. Thats what its all about to you eh?

The only people who can ever get in and get out of a boom and bust city are single people. So the US family unit is largely destroyed.

But so long as it looks good on paper while society more or less entirely degrades right.

Whats the single mother rate in these engines of economic growth? Hmm. So what exactly is it growing then?

So you're trying to say that the single mother rate is an effective indicator of economic growth? I've never seen such an indicator but by all means share your model with us.

From what you're saying it seems that you're basically substituting emotion and anger for actual economic analysis, which pretty much holds true with your previous posts. Is the Bay Area part of an economic bubble? Very possibly so. Does that change the fact that cities are driving economic growth? Nope.

Again, I invite you to compare your economic predictions to mine. In fact, I would love to bet against you on them for the future. What are your thoughts? Remember, you thought I was so bad at this that you thought I shouldn't even opine on the future so this should be a slam dunk for you.

Let's do it, economic genius!

 

[Zstream]

The left flatter themselves.

Especially academics like the one who wrote the cherry picked pseudo scientific trash.

To put it simply, you need only look at how academia is governed and has devolved to question their wisdom. The rise of pseudo science, and toxic ideology .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-nvNAcvUPE
Never mind the profligate spending of other peoples(the students) money(debt)

Dunning -kruger indeed

Lock those freaks up and put them in padded walls. Fucking disgrace to human society.

 

[Victorian Gray]

The left flatter themselves.

Especially academics like the one who wrote the cherry picked pseudo scientific trash.

To put it simply, you need only look at how academia is governed and has devolved to question their wisdom. The rise of pseudo science, and toxic ideology .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-nvNAcvUPE
Never mind the profligate spending of other peoples(the students) money(debt)

Dunning -kruger indeed

Oh look, more parrot droppings.

 

[brycejones]

Lock those freaks up and put them in padded walls. Fucking disgrace to human society.

How authoritarian of you. A little ironic given your "don't tread on me" forum pic.

 

[Zstream]

How authoritarian of you. A little ironic given your "don't tread on me" forum pic.

You want to put a damn law in place for calling these people other pronouns? I swear Russia has already won. Infiltrated us with this stupid shit and this is what you get.

 

[zinfamous]

The left flatter themselves.

Especially academics like the one who wrote the cherry picked pseudo scientific trash.

To put it simply, you need only look at how academia is governed and has devolved to question their wisdom. The rise of pseudo science, and toxic ideology .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-nvNAcvUPE
Never mind the profligate spending of other peoples(the students) money(debt)

Dunning -kruger indeed

of course, you're the expert in pseudoscience.

 

[brycejones]

You want to put a damn law in place for calling these people other pronouns? I swear Russia has already won. Infiltrated us with this stupid shit and this is what you get.

Now you are ranting.

 

[Puffnstuff]

My how you guys forget so quickly. Appealing to the sympathetic division is a Republican specialty used many times during the Bush presidency to rally the American troops (aka voters) to his support.

 

[Jhhnn]

What happens with all this amygdala twiddling in the absence of an imminent threat is that the "fight" side of it comes to the front. What they end up fighting against is reason. They fight the Mexican Invasion when more of them are going home than coming here. They fight voter fraud even though it doesn't really exist. They fight against all sorts of boogeymen their aroused amygdalas tell them must be there. They internalize bullshit before they even think about it.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Dick Cheney got theirs to shop at Haliburton.

 

[JSt0rm]

I knew moonbeam would be able to drop the hammer. lol.

 

[Moonbeam]

I knew moonbeam would be able to drop the hammer. lol.

The only hammer I want to drop is to suggest that the answer to fear is love, that what we fear IS love, love that can only be when we love ourselves. To love ourselves those of us who project, must learn to love others. The conservative brain knows that the desire and temptation to love is tremendously dangerous, that we were all mortally wounded by our original innocence and trust and have vowed never to open up again.

But to take up the cross and die their with forgiveness on one's lips is the way us Christians were given, the way we can be reborn right here in heaven.

 

[OverVolt]

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[Jaskalas]

Violent crime is at some of the lowest rates in modern history right now. No rational person can argue otherwise.

Trump is massively lying about crime. We should all join together in recognizing that.

Trying to Hide the Rise of Violent Crime

Progressives and their media allies have launched a campaign to deny the ‘Ferguson effect’—but it’s real, and it’s increasingly deadly for inner cities.

1,000 more people shot in Chicago compared with same time last year

Maybe it _was_ the lowest rates... back when Bush was President, before the economy !@#$ all over itself. That's likely a long term trend of lead being removed from our environment. Times change. Before #BLM reignited race riots. As I said above, it's simply a matter of which facts you choose to hold and which facts you choose to ignore. You are choosing to ignore the increased violence.

Some more:
Homicide Rates Jump in Many Major U.S. Cities
How many more ways can you partisan hacks possibly be wrong on this?

 

[fskimospy]

Trying to Hide the Rise of Violent Crime

1,000 more people shot in Chicago compared with same time last year

Maybe it _was_ the lowest rates... back when Bush was President, before the economy !@#$ all over itself. That's likely a long term trend of lead being removed from our environment. Times change. Before #BLM reignited race riots. As I said above, it's simply a matter of which facts you choose to hold and which facts you choose to ignore. You are choosing to ignore the increased violence.

Of course I'm not choosing to ignore the increased violence. As your own linked article states, while homicides may have had a year over year increase, homicides as a whole are much, MUCH lower than they have been historically. Trump doesn't just say that violent crime is up year on year, he says it's 'the worst he's ever seen'.

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/dueling-claims-on-crime-trend/

While these graphs do not cover 2015, they show the overall trend. (with 2015 added in you would have a modest increase at the end but still FAR below previous highs) Anyone looking at these and then trying to say things have never been worse is flat out lying to you.

Trump is being incredibly dishonest with his description of crime in the US and we should all be able to agree on that. It is a matter of which facts you choose to ignore and I know you're smart enough not to ignore the facts blatantly staring you in the face. Crime is better in the US than it has been at almost any point in our entire lives. Don't be duped by that lying sociopath.

 

[Moonbeam]

As I said above, it's simply a matter of which facts you choose to hold and which facts you choose to ignore. You are choosing to ignore the increased violence.

From the link:

Hypersensitivity to Threat
Science has unequivocally shown that the conservative brain has an exaggerated fear response when faced with stimuli that may be perceived as threatening.

What makes you think you have a choice in what facts you think you choose to hold?

 

[Perknose]

From the link:

Hypersensitivity to Threat
Science has unequivocally shown that the conservative brain has an exaggerated fear response when faced with stimuli that may be perceived as threatening.

What makes you think you have a choice in what facts you think you choose to hold?

Lol, looks like my man Moonie is wielding a scalpel as well as a hammer. And no matter which tool he employs, he's nailing it!

Moombeam, God's carpenter/surgeon!!