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A lifelong gun owner explains why he is destroying his gun.

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So basically if his family members didn't have access to guns to kill themselves and just decided to jump off a bridge his conscience would be clear.
 
Any Gun is an improvement.

Guns are a meaningless portion of deaths in this country. Get rid of all guns and it won't even make a dent.

I say good, let another idiot destroy his gun. If he doesn't have the mental capacity to parse the data, then it's one less idiot owner out there.
 
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Yup, and because I drive a bear a portion of the responsibility of all auto accidents. Because I drink beer I am responsible for DUI's and vehicular homicides. Because I play games I'm responsible for that chinese kid who had a heart attack in the middle of a Starcraft session. Because I ate a donut last week I'm responsible for Americas obesity epidemic. Because I was employed I'm responsible for minorities not being able to get decent jobs.


Man, you're one sick bastard -- look at all the misery you aren't responsible for! 😉


Brian
 
And what do you plan to do about it?
Support laws on the regulation of the sale of alcohol, support a tax structure that treats people that become victims of alcohol, support a legal system that is punitive but also involves treatment. Welcome open debate about how to negate the downsides of a drinking culture. Being aware that it might not be the healthiest thing for society.

You?
 
Support laws on the regulation of the sale of alcohol, support a tax structure that treats people that become victims of alcohol, support a legal system that is punitive but also involves treatment. Welcome open debate about how to negate the downsides of a drinking culture. Being aware that it might not be the healthiest thing for society.
Okay, so you don't actually do anything, get involved in anything, or make any personal sacrifices in response to other people abusing alcohol. You just get to talk up about how wonderful of a person you to an audience across the internet 😉 😛

I'm responsible for my actions, and I do what I can to influence the actions of those directly around me (I actually have taken keys away from friends and refused to let them drive). Beyond that, I'm not responsible for other people's actions. I don't feel any guilt or remorse because of other people's actions. I have friends who are alcoholics. I have friends who have gotten dui's. Feeling responsible for their actions only leads to a spiral of misery in your own life.
 
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Okay, so you don't actually do anything, get involved in anything, or make any personal sacrifices in response to other people abusing alcohol. You just get to talk up about how wonderful of a person you to an audience across the internet 😉

Wut?

Where am I talking about how wonderful a person I am? (I mean I obviously am, but not for any reasons in this thread. 😉 ). I've just answered some direct questions put to me.
 
Dude in the article is a Drama Queen. He didn't accomplish squat except get attention for himself which I believe was his goal anyway.

#WhataDumb@ss.
 
Wut?

Where am I talking about how wonderful a person I am? (I mean I obviously am, but not for any reasons in this thread. 😉 ). I've just answered some direct questions put to me.

Many posters here cannot think beyond A directly leads to B. Everything is black/white. Apparently if you aren't out there protesting (in an approved way per our members) or directly taking keys from potential drunk drivers, you aren't actually doing anything. This type of thinking is part of the reason nothing (productive) gets done here.
 
What a dumbasss. If he was a responsible gun owner, then there is pretty much a zero percent chance that his gun would be used for a crime. Removing it doesn't do shit to help.

Attention whore and idiot. He's probably right in one respect though, it's probably better for everyone for someone that dumb not to be armed.
 
First of all framing suicide by gun as typical gun violence is a deception. In a suicide the gun is nothing more than a tool. Those who are serious enough to put a bullet in their own heads will not hesitate to hang themselves, slash their wrists, or overdose in their attempt to suicide. Suicide is a mental health issue. Removing the gun from the equation will do nothing to prevent the suicide. If you remove the suicides from the gun violence numbers it drops by nearly 2/3rds.

Verdict: Attention whore who thinks emotionally rather than logically.
 
First of all framing suicide by gun as typical gun violence is a deception. In a suicide the gun is nothing more than a tool. Those who are serious enough to put a bullet in their own heads will not hesitate to hang themselves, slash their wrists, or overdose in their attempt to suicide. Suicide is a mental health issue. Removing the gun from the equation will do nothing to prevent the suicide. If you remove the suicides from the gun violence numbers it drops by nearly 2/3rds.

Verdict: Attention whore who thinks emotionally rather than logically.

As has been mentioned repeatedly in various gun threads, this is simply untrue. Most people who attempt suicide do not do so again if they are unsuccessful, and gun suicide is successful VASTLY more often than any other type of attempt. There's a lot of research on this, and guns absolutely correlate strongly with increased amounts of suicide.

So no, they likely wouldn't find another way. They would still be alive in many cases. Suicide prevention is a very important part of the gun debate, due to the huge number of gun suicides each year and their unique effectiveness in helping people kill themselves.
 
Dude in the article is a Drama Queen. He didn't accomplish squat except get attention for himself which I believe was his goal anyway.

#WhataDumb@ss.

Exactly. Drama queen seeking attention. His action is obviously stupid and doesn't have any positive impact on anything. What an idiot.
 
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hope he destroys his car too. since he is more likely to kill someone with that.

he didn't do shit. according to him he was a responsible gun owner. him destroying his gun does NOTHING about gun control or gun violence.

though i guess its a nice thing to do to get attention.
The difference, of course, being that cars provide real, large benefits to every driver every single day, that vastly outweigh the negatives.

Compared with that, if you weigh the benefits versus losses caused by handguns, which side of the scale do you think would go down?
 
Exactly. Drama queen seeking attention. His action is obviously stupid and doesn't have any positive impact on anything. What an idiot.
This is like arguing that one person voting in an election doesn't have any impact on the election's outcome, so it's pointless to vote.

But of course you know that the collective action of tens of millions of voters voting has a huge impact on elections. And the collective action of tens of millions of gun owners destroying their handguns would have a huge impact on gun violence, in two ways:

One, fewer guns would mean that guns wouldn't be as easy to get; and the ones that are available would be more expensive.

Second, and much more importantly, would be the "message" sent by gun-owners destroying their handguns. Messages such as, "Handguns aren't cool." "Only a fool believes that his handgun will benefit his family rather than harm it." "Owning a handgun is like smoking cigarettes." "Real men don't need handguns to feel like a men." And so on.
 
The difference, of course, being that cars provide real, large benefits to every driver every single day, that vastly outweigh the negatives.

How exactly do you quantify the benefit of me feeling I can protect my family if need be? To me that's extremely valuable, and most certainly outweighs the negatives.
 
This is like arguing that one person voting in an election doesn't have any impact on the election's outcome, so it's pointless to vote.

Baloney, it's not even remotely the same. One person taking a stupid pointless action does nothing to benefit anyone. He didn't take a gun out of the hands of a criminal, he destroyed his own gun, supposedly owned and kept by a responsible gun owner. That gun was not going to be used to commit a crime, so destroying it benefits nobody. It was a drama queen attention grabbing act of stupidity.

One, fewer guns would mean that guns wouldn't be as easy to get; and the ones that are available would be more expensive.

Again, baloney. Manufacturers just make and sell more.

Second, and much more importantly, would be the "message" sent by gun-owners destroying their handguns. Messages such as, "Handguns aren't cool." "Only a fool believes that his handgun will benefit his family rather than harm it." "Owning a handgun is like smoking cigarettes." "Real men don't need handguns to feel like a men." And so on.

The only "message" being sent is "I'm in idiot drama queen seeking attention". Criminals don't listen to such "messages" anyway. Responsible gun owners aren't the problem, criminals are. Responsible gun owners destroying their guns does nothing to benefit anyone.
 
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