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A hypothetical Zika-virus question for the anti-abortion crowd

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buckshot24 said:
This is simple. I am against the deliberate killing of any human. That is the beginning and the end of it.
I am against the deliberate killing of any human.
Its a derail and not tough to answer at all. Quit trying to derail the thread.
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so you are against someone who has cancer being able to end their life? even when that cancer leaves them in a bed in execrating pain? damn you are one cold heartless mother fucker.
 
buckshot24 said:
This is simple. I am against the deliberate killing of any human. That is the beginning and the end of it.
I am against the deliberate killing of any human.
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There is nothing deliberate about inaction, not a damn thing.

If you die without treatment, and I fail to give you such treatment, I didn't deliberately kill you, not under any usual definition of the word.

Also, of course, your definition of "human" is disputable. Is sperm human? Every drop that spills is deliberate murder of millions of potential babies!
 
HomerJS said:
The good thing about pro-choice position. You maintain your opinion and others maintain theirs.
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You're forgetting the best part about pro-choice position - a lot fewer descendants of those who hold it to vote in future elections. The country is made a far better place because of the tens of millions of voluntary Darwin winners over the last few decades who would have otherwise turned into welfare recipients and loyal Democrat constituents.
 
Babies that are born with the virus don't need to be euthanized or given prolonged misery extending expensive medical care. They can just be given "hospice" care by the parents if thats what they choose to do. Which would be clothing, feeding, and caring for them until they naturally pass. You can treat it like any terminally ill person.

There isn't any really prohibitive about the cost involved in doing that.

Just searching for some common ground here.
 
waggy said:
so you are against someone who has cancer being able to end their life? even when that cancer leaves them in a bed in execrating pain? damn you are one cold heartless mother fucker.
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What kind of pain is that?

A person in pain is not what I want but I am simply against the deliberate killing of human beings.
 
buckshot24 said:
What kind of pain is that?

A person in pain is not what I want but I am simply against the deliberate killing of human beings.
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so the question is easy. do you let them die by a doctors hand and end it? or force them to continue to live where every day is torture? this isn't a "what if" it happens day in and day out. many would rather die then continue to live in the pain they are in.

yet people like you would rather keep them alive. like i said it takes a cold heartless person to do that.
 
waggy said:
so the question is easy. do you let them die by a doctors hand and end it? or force them to continue to live where every day is torture? this isn't a "what if" it happens day in and day out. many would rather die then continue to live in the pain they are in.

yet people like you would rather keep them alive. like i said it takes a cold heartless person to do that.
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It isn't easy and I don't want to force anything on anybody I am stating my position that I am against the deliberate killing of humans.
 
buckshot24 said:
It isn't easy and I don't want to force anything on anybody I am stating my position that I am against the deliberate killing of humans.
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So you are saying you would not be the one to do it, but people should be allowed to choose and a doctor should be allowed to kill people if the patient wants it?
 
buckshot24 said:
It isn't easy and I don't want to force anything on anybody I am stating my position that I am against the deliberate killing of humans.
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No it's cool. it's good that you are ok with being a heartless bastard. I mean fuck them right? what right do they have to chose to end the pain? fuckers should live with it so society does not have killing on the conscience. we don't want deliberate killing of humans and all.
 
waggy said:
No it's cool. it's good that you are ok with being a heartless bastard. I mean fuck them right? what right do they have to chose to end the pain? fuckers should live with it so society does not have killing on the conscience. we don't want deliberate killing of humans and all.
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What you think of me doesn't matter to me in the least. Keep your personal comments out of this.
 
buckshot24 said:
By George! I think he's got it!
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Did you know that with enough inaction, a naturally born human baby will die 100% of the time? And apparently you are okay with that, since it's not deliberate. However, it is wrong, in your opinion, to deliberately kill the fetus months before it develops into a viable human baby.

Interesting.
 
Chiropteran said:
Did you know that with enough inaction, a naturally born human baby will die 100% of the time? And apparently you are okay with that, since it's not deliberate. However, it is wrong, in your opinion, to deliberately kill the fetus months before it develops into a viable human baby.

Interesting.
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Why don't you quit assuming things?
 
glenn1 said:
Is there anything you would not use as a reason to raise taxes? While I know you guys enjoy that in its own right as much as spending the tax receipts surely you could more creatively use existing resources. Such as having the able-bodied members of the safety net set take care of those "severe brain damage babies" that progressives won't themselves voluntarily via charitable contributions of either time or money? You're the ones taking the easy way out by saying government should handle it if the parents don't abort and that the rich should pay for it all either way.
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I don't want to raise taxes to care for them. I want a reasonable policy that allows late term abortion after this condition has been proven. And I want the parents to be able to decide to forgo any and all medical treatments to prolong their life after birth, except for making the baby as comfortable as possible.

It is you who wants the government to force these people to carry the babies to term and then provide heroic medical treatment to preserve "life" for as long as possible. The vast majority of people can't afford this. The vast majority of people aren't capable emotional/financially to care for severely brain damaged child. There will be very high rates of abandonment and medical bankruptcies. So the question is are you willing to pay for the costs to society to support your positions? It sounds like your answer is punish the parents (and the baby) for the rest of their lives for getting a mosquitoes bite.
 
buckshot24 said:
This is simple. I am against the deliberate killing of any human. That is the beginning and the end of it.
I am against the deliberate killing of any human.
Its a derail and not tough to answer at all. Quit trying to derail the thread.
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I say the people that want to keep these people alive should be the ones to front the bills. The people against it pay no taxes on this. See how quickly they change their stance lol
 
soulcougher73 said:
I say the people that want to keep these people alive should be the ones to front the bills. The people against it pay no taxes on this. See how quickly they change their stance lol
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We'll just bus them to your state or city. You guys love high taxes and welfare so it's a win-win.
 
Zorba said:
I don't want to raise taxes to care for them. I want a reasonable policy that allows late term abortion after this condition has been proven. And I want the parents to be able to decide to forgo any and all medical treatments to prolong their life after birth, except for making the baby as comfortable as possible.

It is you who wants the government to force these people to carry the babies to term and then provide heroic medical treatment to preserve "life" for as long as possible. The vast majority of people can't afford this. The vast majority of people aren't capable emotional/financially to care for severely brain damaged child. There will be very high rates of abandonment and medical bankruptcies. So the question is are you willing to pay for the costs to society to support your positions? It sounds like your answer is punish the parents (and the baby) for the rest of their lives for getting a mosquitoes bite.
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Lets just kill everybody who may be a burden to anybody else then.
 
glenn1 said:
We'll just bus them to your state or city. You guys love high taxes and welfare so it's a win-win.
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No it'd be an opt in/out scenario per person. If you want to preserve life then they tax you say another 5%. If you dont. Then you dont get taxed 5%. Like i said. People will change their stance fast once they see the cost of such policy. 5% would just be the start im sure it would go higher as more and more defective births are left to medical treatments to prolong their lives.
 
soulcougher73 said:
No it'd be an opt in/out scenario per person. If you want to preserve life then they tax you say another 5%. If you dont. Then you dont get taxed 5%. Like i said. People will change their stance fast once they see the cost of such policy. 5% would just be the start im sure it would go higher as more and more defective births are left to medical treatments to prolong their lives.
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Since you're making shit up anyway I will just do progressives a favor and raise their state and city income taxes to 90%. That should more than pay for this new welfare expansion.
 
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