Disrespectful to you? Why? The fact that you wouldn't do something in Germany has absolutely NO bearing on what others choose to do here in the states. So you wouldn't put a banner like that in your car. So fvcking what?
The First Amendment covers all kinds of speech and expression - not just the kind that you find non-offensive and respectful. :roll:
I'm frankly astounded at the deep-seated bigotry being displayed in this thread.
No one would be better off if Hitler won. All he was was a fvcked-up murderer. I can't believe you said that "Course, if Hitler WOULD have won the war, I'd be sittin VERY pretty right now. Very pretty indeed. Alas, didnt happen." You know how many people in my family died because of that fvck? I wish somone blew his head off before he was able to kill so many people, I would have gladly volunteered
We should deport him because of that statement. Our country would be a lot better off.
I mean this is a guy that's crying because Hitler did't win and he can't use racial slurs against black people.
OK. First a lot of you seem to forget that Spain itself is a Christian/European country. Please look up some pictures of Spanish people if you have never been to Spain. Spain took an entirely different route in their conquest attempts. Where other European nations chose to drive out native populations Spain "converted" and enslaved them. What you see in Mexico is the native population with a foriegn language and culture thrust upon them along with Spanish blood infused. This was easy because it was customary for conquered tribes to convert to the customs and religion of there conquerers. This is completely different than the way the US was handled.
Having said that those of you who are saying Florida was owned by the Spanish are forgetting who the Spanish were. Florida was a territory battle by European countries and was occupied by people of direct Spanish and not Mestizos.
The southwest on the other hand is a different story. Without going in to too much detail in 1810 Mexico became independant from Spain and had very little resemblance to its original conquerer. It was by then mostly populated by a mixture of Spanish and native races. Texas is just as good of an example of the southwest as any so we will use it to represent the southwest. Texas was indeed populated by peoples of European decent who desired freedom from Mexico. One only need to look up a few portraits of Jim Bowie, James Fannin, William Travis or others if the names alone don't convince you. Texans (Europeans) fought to become seperate from Mexico (now an independant country) and were eventually annexed by the US after gaining that seperation. Are there Mestizo people in Texas? Yes. However it is and has been dominated by European /Christian populations and attitudes. With its annexation into the US came conformity.
Again to say America is a superset of individual cultures is wrong. Yes one could call it a "melting pot" but one with a main ingredient who's amount is extremely large compared to the other ingredients. This main ingredient is more of an attitude than anything and it is based in conformity. The idea of the "United States" is that there is a collection of places with the same general identity and we have a federal government to insure conformity. We have a national language, a set system of measurement, a more or less universal set of laws, etc. If the idea of a overwhelming Mestizo cultural influence were true in Florida and the southwest you would need to learn spanish to go there. With the exception of most of Miami this is not the case.
Without this conformity the premise behind the United States will crumble. Have we been influenced by other cultures? Of course. I think it is great thet we have St. Patrick's Day parades, eat Lasagna and potatoes, and have Mardis Gras but I also like the fact that I don't have to learn to speak Irish, Italian, or French to participate in those things. Again we cannot allow a culture to permeate enough to change the core values, traditions, and culture that defines America. It is simple things like catering to a foriegn language that can do this.
This is not a racist attitude. America should be made up of different races and ideas but a misguided interpretaion of what our forefathers meant in combination with the now popular "political correctness" has a serious chance to become detrimental to our society. You don't want to be like those fvcktards in Canada or the EU do you?
Ah Hitler. Still a sore subject. One must realize that before you you see Hitler as a murderer and a tyrant you must also see him as a genius and visionary. The only way to have true peace on earth is to have one set of values, one language, one relgion or lack of one, etc. Regaining pangea wouldn't hurt either. One world government will be a necessity for the survival of the human race. I know you say get rid of all the intolerent assholes like myself and you don't have a problem. We can all just be socialist hippies. Unless everyone has the same set of values, religion, language, and social status this is not possible and this is what Hitler wanted to accomplish. Would we have been better off with a world inhabited by fairskin, blue eyed German speaking people? Probably. We would also be better off if it was just black people, just hispanic people or just jewish people as long as there was a govenment in place to enforce conformity.
Hitler chose the extreme approach that if successful would have yielded the quickest result. The only other conceivable means to this end will be continued mixing of the races until there is only one, the conversion of this race to atheism or a single religion, and a socialist society. I feel we will destroy ourselves long before this happens. Even if we reach that point it will be human nature that ruins it. Why can't I believe in a god/ or this god? My skin is slightly darker than his therefore I am superior. Why can't I be "free"? I work harder so why can't I have three TVs instead of the government alloted two? Why can I only have two children? Blah blah blah.
Having said that those of you who are saying Florida was owned by the Spanish are forgetting who the Spanish were. Florida was a territory battle by European countries and was occupied by people of direct Spanish and not Mestizos.
The southwest on the other hand is a different story. Without going in to too much detail in 1810 Mexico became independant from Spain and had very little resemblance to its original conquerer. It was by then mostly populated by a mixture of Spanish and native races. Texas is just as good of an example of the southwest as any so we will use it to represent the southwest. Texas was indeed populated by peoples of European decent who desired freedom from Mexico. One only need to look up a few portraits of Jim Bowie, James Fannin, William Travis or others if the names alone don't convince you. Texans (Europeans) fought to become seperate from Mexico (now an independant country) and were eventually annexed by the US after gaining that seperation. Are there Mestizo people in Texas? Yes. However it is and has been dominated by European /Christian populations and attitudes. With its annexation into the US came conformity.
Again to say America is a superset of individual cultures is wrong. Yes one could call it a "melting pot" but one with a main ingredient who's amount is extremely large compared to the other ingredients. This main ingredient is more of an attitude than anything and it is based in conformity. The idea of the "United States" is that there is a collection of places with the same general identity and we have a federal government to insure conformity. We have a national language, a set system of measurement, a more or less universal set of laws, etc. If the idea of a overwhelming Mestizo cultural influence were true in Florida and the southwest you would need to learn spanish to go there. With the exception of most of Miami this is not the case.
Without this conformity the premise behind the United States will crumble. Have we been influenced by other cultures? Of course. I think it is great thet we have St. Patrick's Day parades, eat Lasagna and potatoes, and have Mardis Gras but I also like the fact that I don't have to learn to speak Irish, Italian, or French to participate in those things. Again we cannot allow a culture to permeate enough to change the core values, traditions, and culture that defines America. It is simple things like catering to a foriegn language that can do this.
This is not a racist attitude. America should be made up of different races and ideas but a misguided interpretaion of what our forefathers meant in combination with the now popular "political correctness" has a serious chance to become detrimental to our society. You don't want to be like those fvcktards in Canada or the EU do you?
Ah Hitler. Still a sore subject. One must realize that before you you see Hitler as a murderer and a tyrant you must also see him as a genius and visionary. The only way to have true peace on earth is to have one set of values, one language, one relgion or lack of one, etc. Regaining pangea wouldn't hurt either. One world government will be a necessity for the survival of the human race. I know you say get rid of all the intolerent assholes like myself and you don't have a problem. We can all just be socialist hippies. Unless everyone has the same set of values, religion, language, and social status this is not possible and this is what Hitler wanted to accomplish. Would we have been better off with a world inhabited by fairskin, blue eyed German speaking people? Probably. We would also be better off if it was just black people, just hispanic people or just jewish people as long as there was a govenment in place to enforce conformity.
Hitler chose the extreme approach that if successful would have yielded the quickest result. The only other conceivable means to this end will be continued mixing of the races until there is only one, the conversion of this race to atheism or a single religion, and a socialist society. I feel we will destroy ourselves long before this happens. Even if we reach that point it will be human nature that ruins it. Why can't I believe in a god/ or this god? My skin is slightly darker than his therefore I am superior. Why can't I be "free"? I work harder so why can't I have three TVs instead of the government alloted two? Why can I only have two children? Blah blah blah.
Well, I wish our culture would include teaching people to spell in english correctly. I don't know, there seems to be enough of a mixed culture here with people who can pick the correct homonym for a sentence and those who cannot. I wish that those who cannot pick out the correct homonym for a sentence would go back to whatever uneducated culture they came from.
Why is it that the predominantly mexican parts of the city are completely TRASHED TO HELL and the predominantly white parts of the city are very clean?
Yeah, but it's California. Cali needs to break off and sink into the ocean. So... California doesn't count.
It's the largest state economy, far larger than Oregon. Wasn't it the 5th largest world economy at one point?
Much of our R&D takes place there.
Not to mention the educational institutions there and much more.
Yeah, it's defiitely more important to the US than Oregon.
Much of our R&D takes place there.
Not to mention the educational institutions there and much more.
Yeah, it's defiitely more important to the US than Oregon.
Who cares about the largest state economy or not. The U.S. can live without CA. I have no faith in the public educational institutions in ANY state.
I still have yet to hear one good thing about California or one good reason why it shouldn't be nuked.
I still have yet to hear one good thing about California or one good reason why it shouldn't be nuked.
I didn't say that the US couldn't live without California...just that California is far more important to the US than Oregon. I'd say losing the country's largest state economy, that was at one point the 5th largest economy in the world, would be pretty devastating to the country.
I'm not even talking only about the public education in California. You're forgetting about Stanford and Caltech, which are far superior to anything that Oregon has to offer. Not to mention that California's state schools like UCSD, UCLA, and UC Berekely (especially Berkeley) are far more significant and important than anything Oregon has to offer.
Bottom line is that California is easily one of the most important states in the country. Oregon is basically nothing compared to California.
Did I say Oregon was anything at all? I have personal issues that bring me to utter and complete hatred of California and Californians.
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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: FrogDog
How about as opposed to a society where people (not all, of course) are generally accepting of other people's desires to hold on to their original cultures?Originally posted by: ElFenix
as opposed to what, japanese non-conformity?Originally posted by: FrogDog
WOW, anglo-conformity at its best! Nice attitude...It makes for a very enjoyable society, I'm sure...Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
huh..... ok.... guess it'll be a feel good movie about how we really need em
bah, mexican americans would be better off if none of em drove around in cars with big ass mexican flags on them. that generates a lot of disgust. seriously, i see em like once a monthits like why the f*ck are you here if you are so proud of mexico. if ur going to stay, be an american, if not, go the f*ck home.
How about if your moving to another culture you adopt its beliefs and ways? Or stay right where you are. A mixed culture is NOT good in any way shape or form for a country.
now i know you are smoking crack! its the diversity that makes america, america!
Well you said 'How so?' to when I said California is 100x more important than Oregon. I stated why and that Oregon is a turd when compared to California.
You can hate California if you want. I don't even live in California. However, I'm not going to pretend that it isn't probably the most important state in the US.
The "how so" was more directed at how California was worth anything more than the time to destroy it. Sorry for the miscommunication. You can pretend all you want. I don't live in California either. However, I'm not going to pretend that it is probably the most imprtantat state in the U.S.
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
The "how so" was more directed at how California was worth anything more than the time to destroy it. Sorry for the miscommunication. You can pretend all you want. I don't live in California either. However, I'm not going to pretend that it is probably the most imprtantat state in the U.S.
Well then keep living in denial.
I'm not sure why the US would want to destroy its largest state economy. Most other states just aren't worth as much or as important as CA is.
Please explain the difference between you and other Americans. We are not as diverse as you think.
For those of you that think diversity is the cornerstone of America:
America is 76% Christian
America is 69% white
82% of Americans speak English at home. (this is declining)
Most Americans are educated by a standardized school system even if they don't graduate.
Yes there is diversity in America but not to the point most of you think. Even with the different races and cultural backrounds there is one thing that for the most part binds us together. That is the core beliefs that have up to this point defined America. Again these must be maintained or you will no longer have America. Why is it you think Mexico sucks? Remember Mexico is a democracy and it is the people of that nation and their culture that have made it what it is today.
America is 76% Christian
America is 69% white
82% of Americans speak English at home. (this is declining)
Most Americans are educated by a standardized school system even if they don't graduate.
Yes there is diversity in America but not to the point most of you think. Even with the different races and cultural backrounds there is one thing that for the most part binds us together. That is the core beliefs that have up to this point defined America. Again these must be maintained or you will no longer have America. Why is it you think Mexico sucks? Remember Mexico is a democracy and it is the people of that nation and their culture that have made it what it is today.
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