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A crossroad in human evolution

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What I don't understand is why these non news/political threads are allowed in here.

I guess now that Anarchist420 is not posting the forum has now become Moonbeam's blog.
 
Ah...back to the good ol' days of sticks and stones...just might be the conservatives dream. If that doesn't speak volumes, I don't know what does.

Moonie, I'm beginning to worry about you. Poetic license or do you actually believe your condescending hyperbole?

What do you believe Einstein had in mind when he said it?
 
Yet another thread blaming all the world's ills on the conservative mindset. Too bad progressives/liberals place so many restraints/regulations that hold back innovation.

Look up conservatism before making such statements. In short, it means "keeping things how they were". Taking that definition into account, I'd say the OP is correct in his statement regarding conservatism.
 
Look up conservatism before making such statements. In short, it means "keeping things how they were". Taking that definition into account, I'd say the OP is correct in his statement regarding conservatism.

So please change the forum rules and make it a free for all.



Oh wait a minute that's what the OT firum is supposed to used to do.
 
Along the same lines, I often think of the consequences of taking our current societal mindset into the future. Dystopic science fiction often explores this idea.

If the trends of inequality continue along side advances in biotechnology and medicine, there very well could be a divergence in our species. Those that will be able to afford it, will be able to augment their bodies to the point where they are simply superior to those who are not augmented. Think living until 150, bionic eye implants, nano medicine, brain upgrades, selective genes, etc. Right now they only have more money than lower economic rungs, in the future they may actually be superior human beings.

Human changes like that would reinforce their already powerful social standing and truly divide the human species.

Einstein is right, our technological progress far surpasses our social progress.
 
I am convinced that at core we are all perfect but that we are also all infected by self hate. This means that while I am certain we can win it doesn't mean we will. I believe we will win if we see who the enemy really is so here I am posting what I believe.

It would be a tragedy if we didn't make it. Such an ancient and elaborate experiment gone to waste. What a shame that would be.
 
Along the same lines, I often think of the consequences of taking our current societal mindset into the future. Dystopic science fiction often explores this idea.

If the trends of inequality continue along side advances in biotechnology and medicine, there very well could be a divergence in our species. Those that will be able to afford it, will be able to augment their bodies to the point where they are simply superior to those who are not augmented. Think living until 150, bionic eye implants, nano medicine, brain upgrades, selective genes, etc. Right now they only have more money than lower economic rungs, in the future they may actually be superior human beings.

Human changes like that would reinforce their already powerful social standing and truly divide the human species.

Einstein is right, our technological progress far surpasses our social progress.

No one mourns the Neanderthals. We benefit today from their demise and make no apologies about it. Why should we be deserving of protection from a similar fate?
 
Yet another thread blaming all the world's ills on the conservative mindset. Too bad progressives/liberals place so many restraints/regulations that hold back innovation.

We are living in, arguably, the most innovative time in our History. It has nothing to do with Politics and everything to do with Science.
 
Along the same lines, I often think of the consequences of taking our current societal mindset into the future. Dystopic science fiction often explores this idea.

If the trends of inequality continue along side advances in biotechnology and medicine, there very well could be a divergence in our species. Those that will be able to afford it, will be able to augment their bodies to the point where they are simply superior to those who are not augmented. Think living until 150, bionic eye implants, nano medicine, brain upgrades, selective genes, etc. Right now they only have more money than lower economic rungs, in the future they may actually be superior human beings.

Human changes like that would reinforce their already powerful social standing and truly divide the human species.

Einstein is right, our technological progress far surpasses our social progress.

Gattaca got that idea covered.
 
We are living in, arguably, the most innovative time in our History. It has nothing to do with Politics and everything to do with Science.

The implications have everything to do with politics. Compare the conservative response to Katrina to say the Republican Christy's response to Sandy.
 
It all makes perfect sense now the conservative brain defect is the lack of envy and self hate.

Your kind of sense, like the lack of pineapple and roses means it's a thunderstorm. You do not know how to think. It's pathetic. I'm not that good at it, but Jesus, man, get a grip.
 
Your kind of sense, like the lack of pineapple and roses means it's a thunderstorm. You do not know how to think. It's pathetic. I'm not that good at it, but Jesus, man, get a grip.

This so hilarious coming from the person that starts all these threads based on imaginary defects.
 
Ah...back to the good ol' days of sticks and stones...just might be the conservatives dream. If that doesn't speak volumes, I don't know what does.

Moonie, I'm beginning to worry about you. Poetic license or do you actually believe your condescending hyperbole?

Honestly, only a conservative brain, in my opinion, could read my OP and come away focused on a reference to sticks and stones. I find it ..... well, the science predicts it, so what can I say. Did it ever occur to you that you might be a tad bit defensive? How do you feel, for example about the Senate Science committee being packed full on the Republican side by a bunch of science denying, religious, brain dead donkeys. The issues here are bigger than your thin skin.
 
Somewhere I seem to remember a quote from Einstein to the effect that our technological development has outstripped our emotional maturity. I can't find it, if so, but I did find this by him, which expresses a similar idea assuming that out humanity is something we don't reach to our potential:

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity."

I thought of this because I have been thinking about the drag on social evolution imposed on us by the conservative mind set, the disinterest in and even fear of novelty and change.

If you read Kurzweil and his theory of coming singularity you will have been presented that the rate of change is accelerating exponentially.

I want to posit a theory that the conservative mind set and the rate of societal change are creating an impending crisis, one that even liberals will be challenged by.

Over the course of human history our cultural evolution, punctuated and at time regressive as it may be, has changed very slowly. Just one example is how long it had taken to change race relations nationally. Still a work in progress, as I see it.

As the rate of the accumulation of information and knowledge doubles more and more rapidly, the capacity to adapt to it becomes more and more pressing.

It is no wonder, I think, that the conservative brains among us as a result are starting to show signs of cracking. They can't stop or slow down the rate of change and they are becoming more and more terrified of an unknown novel future as a result. They have begun to throw themselves under the bus in an attempt to stop it via carnage. And the rate of change has become so rapid that folk who used to be moderately liberal are also feeling the stress.

But the technological advances that result from change bring with them tremendous economic benefits and in many ways increased quality of life, and conservative reaction increasingly threatens it. The conservatives among us are becoming increasingly anti-science and anti-intellectual.

If this is a reasonable explanation of the threat we face from our reluctance to evolve socially to change, what can be done about it.

Is there any way we can provide any sense that the future might be safe? How do you see the future. The situation I have presented here is that if the conservative mind set, the demand for stasis prevails, it will greatly decrease our capacity to deal with what the future will without any doubt bring. The thing that I can also see is another thing Einstein said. He didn't know what weapons world war 111 would be fought with but the one after would be fought with sticks and stones. That might just be a conservatives dream.
I've seen too much death, Moonbeam, and death is horrible, as one might expect.

So lets back off from death.

We aren't dead yet.

🙂

-John
 
This so hilarious coming from the person that starts all these threads based on imaginary defects.

You don't know how to think. Please don't try to judge using that defect you call thinking. Garbage in garbage out. Your are defective because you have a defect that refused to see it is a defect which makes it defective. All you do is chase your tail. You are just plain lost, or not quite. You have a perfect weather vane. Whatever you think is right is completely and totally wrong. You are far, far more accurate that a watch that's stopped. You don't even manage twice a day. What do you thin is going to happen when things really start to happen. You can't even do simple logic. I know you are a good person. Just don't trust your truthiness so much. It's wrong.
 
I've seen too much death, Moonbeam, and death is horrible, as one might expect.

So lets back off from death.

We aren't dead yet.

🙂

-John

Einstein thought that people's fear of death was unreasonable because after you die no accidents can happen to you. Not a single thing bad can happen.
 
You don't know how to think. Please don't try to judge using that defect you call thinking. Garbage in garbage out. Your are defective because you have a defect that refused to see it is a defect which makes it defective. All you do is chase your tail. You are just plain lost, or not quite. You have a perfect weather vane. Whatever you think is right is completely and totally wrong. You are far, far more accurate that a watch that's stopped. You don't even manage twice a day. What do you thin is going to happen when things really start to happen. You can't even do simple logic. I know you are a good person. Just don't trust your truthiness so much. It's wrong.

Again more psychobabble from a delusional person. Go back to your doctor and treatment.
 
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