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[pmv]

Car traffic seems a vastly greater source of risk for children, growing up in this city. Instead of teaching children to swim, put more effort into teaching drivers to look where they are going.

 

[Zorba]

I think you are being an irresponsible parent, if you don't get your kids swimming lessons. Plus, when I was a kid, you couldn't get me out of the water. Never understood why people go to the beach and sit in the sand.

Yeah, my father in law never learned to swim. They ended up taken over the loan payments on a house with a pool, right after they moved it

That's quite interesting.

I can only conclude the situation is very different in the US and UK. I can't find anything that lists 'drowning' as a common cause of death here.

(I can only assume it's because more private homes have pools over there. Not very many of them in London, or the UK in general, I think. Only stat I found suggested they are 10 times as common in the US as here.)

e.g.

Child and infant mortality in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics

Stillbirths, infant and childhood deaths occurring annually in England and Wales, and associated risk factors.

www.ons.gov.uk

Among all ages, drowning barely seems to merit a mention

https://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/11/6/1352225082582/Mortality-rates-big-graph-001.jpg

It's possible there are better figures out there, though. Couldn't find much specific to child mortality (a very depressing subject anyway).

Yeah, water activities of all types here are extremely common. Plus we have tons of neighborhood ponds, etc, that attract kids.

I also think parents don't have a healthy enough fear of drowning, too busy worried about stranger kidnapping and Instagram. A kid had a non fatal drowning in our city pool this week, the mom said "I put her in a floaty and thought she would be fine."

 

[pmv]

Looking at my own linked source again, I notice about 200 people (across all ages) died by drowning in 2011. And only 53 of those drowned in 'natural bodies of water', the rest were in pools or in the bath. Swimming wouldn't help much in the bath, and it's a desire to swim that leads to people being in pools in the first place.

Most of those were likely adults, except, tragically, drowning in baths seems to be something that occurs with babies or the extremely elderly.

Honestly seems to me that it's possible the much higher US figures may be due to the presence of swimming pools in private homes, that young children can accidentally fall into. Which makes it seem like it might be horribly circular - people get homes with pools so their children can learn to swim, in order to avert the danger created by having homes with pools.

 

[Zorba]

Looking at my own linked source again, I notice about 200 people (across all ages) died by drowning in 2011. And only 53 of those drowned in 'natural bodies of water', the rest were in pools or in the bath. Swimming wouldn't help much in the bath, and it's a desire to swim that leads to people being in pools in the first place.

Most of those were likely adults, except, tragically, drowning in baths seems to be something that occurs with babies or the extremely elderly.

Honestly seems to me that it's possible the much higher US figures may be due to the presence of swimming pools in private homes, that young children can accidentally fall into. Which makes it seem like it might be horribly circular - people get homes with pools so their children can learn to swim, in order to avert the danger created by having homes with pools.

People get houses with pools because Americans love being in and around pools, not so their kids learn to swim.

 

[Pohemi]

Do you have any statistics on that? Because I admit I'm entirely going on my impression from seeing news items, maybe I'm wrong. Every single news report I see of a drowning, it involves someone choosing to go swimming in a swimming pool or a lake or the sea.

The Major Causes of Death in Children and Adolescents in the United States | NEJM

Special Report from The New England Journal of Medicine — The Major Causes of Death in Children and Adolescents in the United States

www.nejm.org

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Drowning Facts | Drowning Prevention | CDC

Drowning Facts

www.cdc.gov

Facts & Stats About Drowning - Stop Drowning Now

Drowning: The Facts Everyone Needs to Know Every year the news is peppered with devastating stories about parents who lost children or families who lost loved ones who drowned. You never think it will happen to you, but that’s what everyone who experienced it thought, too. The truth is that all...

www.stopdrowningnow.org

I seriously never hear stories along the lines of "He wanted to swim across the lake and drown in the middle." I do hear a lot, "He fall off the boat without a life jacket, couldn't swim, and drowned." Also drowning in your car isn't unheard of here in flash floods. To be fair, I do know a guy that drown in the ocean while swimming, he got caught in a rip current while swimming by himself.

I had read and quoted the above and was going to respond about bathtub drownings and whether they were included in the statistics. Then I saw this post...

...about 200 people (across all ages) died by drowning in 2011. And only 53 of those drowned in 'natural bodies of water', the rest were in pools or in the bath.

So it did get mentioned, at least.

I do believe it's not a bad thing to teach or make sure your kids have the opportunity to learn how to swim at some point. Maybe I'm biased as I loved to swim and was good at it from a relatively young age, but it can save your life if you at least know how to tread water, for extended periods (alternating floating on your back to rest between treading with legs and arms to not 'freeze up' in the water, etc).

My father taught me to swim when I was probably 3 or 4 years old, but I had 'taken to the water' like a fish even earlier, according to my mother.

edit: LOL just realized what thread this was in...oops for OT

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Since there seems to be interest in my things you should know I’ll break them down to be more specific
Swim: be able to fall or tossed or somehow end up in water over your head, you are able to keep your head above water also you have no fear of dunking your head under water. That’s good enough
Drive: you can get in any normal car, start the car and drive somewhere. Perfectly fine if you get lost, perfectly fine if you drive slow but you are capable of driving somewhere safely. You are capable of driving in the rain or dark (I’ll give a pass to someone who has vision impairment regarding rain or dark but it needs to be a real impairment). Ideally you should be able to drive a manual transmission and be able to start on a hill, this is a bonus because there just aren’t many manual transmission cars any longer but take the opportunity to learn if you can. You should be capable of putting gas into a car, you should know or at minimum change one tire in your life, you should be capable of changing a windshield wiper and a light on the car *regarding headlights I am talking a normal car but yes an old cavalier I owned the headlights could not be changed roadside obviously something you need a full toolset for doesn’t count*. You should be able to drive in the snow, I will give a pass to those who never see snow but if you ever have a chance when out of town ask a friend if you can drive in the snow.
Cooking you should be able to:
Make a sandwich besides PB&J
Cook an egg
Cook a protein let’s say chicken but really could be any protein two or three different ways. Bake in the oven (season), fry or grill or boil or whatever other method.
You should be able to cook any type of pasta and add sauce or gravy canned or jarred is okay
You should be able to microwave or boil or roast a few different types of vegetables
You should be able to go to the store and purchase enough raw foods to have a meal.
Meal does not have to be gourmet but it can’t be ramen noodles or college dorm food.
Bonus points if you can bake cookies or a cake, using a mix is perfectly acceptable.
You should be able to read a recipe as in know what the measures are yes you can use measuring cups or spoons or whatever device to do it but you need to know a cup is different than a tablespoon.
Frozen meals or frozen pizza do not count as cooking in this metric. Frozen vegetables are acceptable. Complete frozen meal is not acceptable.