A case for religion, and against AA.

[soulcougher73]

see the problem you have is no matter what anybody presents as an answer to prayer, you will try to unsuccessfully explain away!!

And you will deflect and not answer. Why? Because you know its bullshit to begin with and have no rational/logical answer to a normal question someone would ask where that $6000 went.

Your friend will be seriously audited by the IRS. $13500 doesnt go missing with the explaination of "they prayed it away" as the answer.

You are seriously stupid if you think otherwise.

 

[soulcougher73]

I dont know about you guys. But im pretty convinced. Think ill start heading to church and be a believer. I didnt realize we could just pay away our taxes and pray for jobs etc. And as always i can "pray away the gay" as the highlight of my day.

 

[PowerEngineer]

So much for the promise of this forum. :\

This thread has degenerated to a P&N level.

The name callers on both sides should just stop.

If any mods are watching, this thread should be locked.

 

[dphantom]

So much for the promise of this forum. :\

This thread has degenerated to a P&N level.

The name callers on both sides should just stop.

If any mods are watching, this thread should be locked.

Then step in and raise the level of discourse. This is an emotional topic for atheists and Believers. It makes it difficult at times to keep emotions in check. A few obviously cannot - they have anger issues. But the topic itself is worthy of discussion.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Your friend will be seriously audited by the IRS. $13500 doesnt go missing with the explaination of "they prayed it away" as the answer. -- you like twisting things or fabricating things...nobody said the money went missing -- please show me where it went missing? What was said was that the total amount due kept getting lower and lower due to back money that evidently my friend never claimed being added to the total, thus dropping the amount owed!!
You are seriously stupid if you think otherwise.

You obviously are trying to explain away something that you know nothing about!

Each and every time the total was dropped the explanation was that money from the past that was owed my friend was added to the total thus dropping the total owed!

The IRS does not audit what they themselves do! That is another reason my friend went to see my other friend the retired IRS official! She was in disbelief that it had actually happened!

You really disappoint me. You are trying to explain away something that no matter how hard you try will not go away!!

ThinClient also tried to use the words -- "Confirmation bias" which does not explain or have anything to do with this.......so sorry!

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Atheism is not a religion. It's a lack of religion.

Anti-theism is a religion. Atheists are not anti-theists.

Dogmas of Atheism:

ATHEISM IS RELIGION

DELUSION IS REALITY

UNBELIEF IS BELIEF

 

[soulcougher73]

You obviously are trying to explain away something that you know nothing about!

Each and every time the total was dropped the explanation was that money from the past that was owed my friend was added to the total thus dropping the total owed!

The IRS does not audit what they themselves do! That is another reason my friend went to see my other friend the retired IRS official! She was in disbelief that it had actually happened!

You really disappoint me. You are trying to explain away something that no matter how hard you try will not go away!!

ThinClient also tried to use the words -- "Confirmation bias" which does not explain or have anything to do with this.......so sorry!

So you have now explained the reason the money was she owed was lower. But in all of that you are going to go with "god did it"?

 

[sandorski]

Dogmas of Atheism:

ATHEISM IS RELIGION

DELUSION IS REALITY

UNBELIEF IS BELIEF

Doesn't even make sense.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

You really disappoint me. You are trying to explain away something that no matter how hard you try will not go away!!

ThinClient also tried to use the words -- "Confirmation bias" which does not explain or have anything to do with this.......so sorry!

You are seeing an example of a type of bias which I call "Evidence Bias".

Evidence Bias is the rejection of reality by denial of valid evidence.

Evidence Bias is rampant in atheism. Evidence Bias is easily seen by the atheist's delusional belief that there are no evidence and constant repetition of the phase "No Evidence".

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Doesn't even make sense.

Dogmas of Atheism:

ATHEISM IS RELIGION

DELUSION IS REALITY

UNBELIEF IS BELIEF

 

[sandorski]

Dogmas of Atheism:

ATHEISM IS RELIGION

DELUSION IS REALITY

UNBELIEF IS BELIEF

Troll on.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Troll on.

Take your complaints to the Ministry of Untruth, a branch of the Catholic Church of Atheism.

 

[jhbball]

Take your complaints to the Ministry of Untruth, a branch of the Catholic Church of Atheism.

Uh oh, I think we broke Pray to Jesus.

 

[chriss000]

There have been more wars, atrocities, crimes, abuse, misery, class distinction and tiered societies, terrorism and needless suffering of human beings caused by religion than anything any 'Satan'
could have imposed, so yes. Religion does seem to be a major problem,and if it was not passed on to next generations the human race could achieve wonders.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Dogmas of Atheism:

ATHEISM IS RELIGION

DELUSION IS REALITY

UNBELIEF IS BELIEF

© Ministry of Untruth, publishing branch of the Catholic Church of Atheism.

 

[chriss000]

I dont know about all that mumbo jumbo, but I dont start conversations on religious forums about the possible benefits
and likely arrival time of 20 nanometer tri state trasistors or the search for the Higgs Boson particle , so I can only conclude someone burbling on about religion on a tech forum is a
'dribbling village idiot'
Sorry to seem rude there Father, can I make a fone call for you?

 

[spittledip]

So much for the promise of this forum. :\

This thread has degenerated to a P&N level.

The name callers on both sides should just stop.

If any mods are watching, this thread should be locked.

When Charles was chased off this place went downhill fast. It seemed like kind of a witch hunt by some very legalistic posters in here. They were trying to get him on every little technicality. At least that was my impression. I don't know the "real story".

 

[OverVolt]

Bullshit.

Want to know what I believe? Null set. Void. I'm still waiting for a religious person to provide evidence to support their positive claims.

Because the universe exists and we're fortunate enough to live in it, that's why. Round and round we go though.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

I dont know about all that mumbo jumbo, but I dont start conversations on religious forums about the possible benefits
and likely arrival time of 20 nanometer tri state trasistors or the search for the Higgs Boson particle , so I can only conclude someone burbling on about religion on a tech forum is a
'dribbling village idiot'
Sorry to seem rude there Father, can I make a fone call for you?

There have been more wars, atrocities, crimes, abuse, misery, class distinction and tiered societies, terrorism and needless suffering of human beings caused by religion than anything any 'Satan'
could have imposed, so yes. Religion does seem to be a major problem,and if it was not passed on to next generations the human race could achieve wonders.

Your excellent post clearly show that you are a certified expert in the field of 'dribbling village idiot'. You effortlessly demonstrate to others your in depth field experience and understanding of 'dribbling village idiot' behaviors.

 

[OverVolt]

There have been more wars, atrocities, crimes, abuse, misery, class distinction and tiered societies, terrorism and needless suffering of human beings caused by religion than anything any 'Satan'
could have imposed, so yes. Religion does seem to be a major problem,and if it was not passed on to next generations the human race could achieve wonders.

I really do disagree, all that stuff is a result of ignorance and human nature. At its core almost all conflict has at its root some form of ignorance. Religion is your best bet such that people treat each other with respect & respect the value of life.

People bring up the crusades, which were 900 years ago anyway so the athiests picked a hell of a time to suddenly take issue. The root cause was the East-West Schism. Religion being the major institution of the time was fully embroiled in the conflict but the root cause of the conflict is the same as any other. Language differences, culture differences, political differences, etc.

All you have to do is look at the map and realize the diversity of the people living in Europe.

How would that not lead to war?

 

[JEDIYoda]

There have been more wars, atrocities, crimes, abuse, misery, class distinction and tiered societies, terrorism and needless suffering of human beings caused by religion than anything any 'Satan'
could have imposed, so yes. Religion does seem to be a major problem,and if it was not passed on to next generations the human race could achieve wonders.

YES!! The human race would destroy itself in the next generation or 2....

 

[sandorski]

Because the universe exists and we're fortunate enough to live in it, that's why. Round and round we go though.

That's evidence of the Universe and Us.

 

[disappoint]

lol. This has to be worst miracle story I've ever heard.

Prays for friend's tax problems to go away.

Doesn't pray for an end to world hunger, poverty, disease, suffering, injustice, war, crime, natural disasters... You know, those things that would REALLY benefit humanity greatly but won't be answered.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Prays for friend's tax problems to go away.

Doesn't pray for an end to world hunger, poverty, disease, suffering, injustice, war, crime, natural disasters... You know, those things that would REALLY benefit humanity greatly but won't be answered.

Why should we have to request that Christians pray for for an end to world hunger, poverty, disease, suffering, injustice, war, crime, natural disasters... You know, those things that would REALLY benefit humanity greatly but won't be answered.
Christians should already be praying about those things! yet we should be doing something about those things, such as feeding the poor..volunteering at a food bank...etc...

There is nothing wrong with praying for a friends Tax problems or any other problems to be dealt with.

You Atheists really like to over embellish and quite frankly lie a whole lot...nobody prayed for my friends tax problems to magically go away or disappear. yet that is exactly what happened except for a small amount which she paid!

 

[jackstar7]

Because the universe exists and we're fortunate enough to live in it, that's why. Round and round we go though.

Do you believe everyone shares in your idea that life is a fortunate experience?

Or more to the point, can you provide evidence that it is a fortunate experience?