A Baldwin Brother at the GOP Convention?

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: maluckey
So, what I get from this thread:

If someone recognizes that their lifestyle is counterproductive to happiness, their associates misguided, and their behavior wrong, they can't change???

I applaud Baldwin if he sticks to his newfound life-plan. If he reverts to his former ways, then I'll feel very sorry for him.

I think part of the ribbing that he's taking is from Liberals who find it hard to believe that someone who is in a Liberal industry can change their mind.

I used to drink like a fish, carouse, change the girls like they were underwear, party all night, never sleep, and couldn't have cared less about me, you, or anything other than getting my jollies. One day I woke up and saw there to be more to life. I quit my job, moved to another state, another career, got true friends, got married, had kids, and have never been happier. It all happened ten years ago. I have never wanted to go back to the old ways. I can only hope that it's the same for others.

I did the same thing, even started down the path to be born again. Then I realized I was just going through the motions and decided I didn't need to adopt the beliefs of others just to feel normal. I'd prefer to see life through my own two eyes.

 

[smashp]

Originally posted by: maluckey
So, what I get from this thread:

If someone recognizes that their lifestyle is counterproductive to happiness, their associates misguided, and their behavior wrong, they can't change???

I applaud Baldwin if he sticks to his newfound life-plan. If he reverts to his former ways, then I'll feel very sorry for him.

I think part of the ribbing that he's taking is from Liberals who find it hard to believe that someone who is in a Liberal industry can change their mind.

I used to drink like a fish, carouse, change the girls like they were underwear, party all night, never sleep, and couldn't have cared less about me, you, or anything other than getting my jollies. One day I woke up and saw there to be more to life. I quit my job, moved to another state, another career, got true friends, got married, had kids, and have never been happier. It all happened ten years ago. I have never wanted to go back to the old ways. I can only hope that it's the same for others.

Your preaching is a prime example of Why Born agains bother people.

YEAHHHHHHH Ya found God, Now all those evil satanic things you did before are All forgiven and you never do bad ever again. Next.......

YOU MUST CHANGE THE OTHER EVIL ONES.

Well I had Jesus in my heart and accepted him as the trinity a long time ago. Ive still made bad life decisions, acted like a jerk and do things im ashamed of. Im Human. Not perfect. Please forgive me for being an A$$

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: DonVito
LOL - that is funny indeed. Was Corey Feldman not available? Maybe they'll ask him to re-enact their favorite scenes from "Bio-Dome".

Here are some more luminaries from their all-star lineup:

Among other performers who will appear the convention are Christian singer Gracie Rosenburger, rock band Dexter Freebish, country singer Darryl Worley and gospel singer Donnie McClurkin.

Who the hell are Dexter Freebish?

DF, is a band played on a lot of Alternative stations. I never knew they were conservative, if anything I would have figured they were liberal. 😕

 

[rextilleon]

God--the RNC is going to be fascinating---I have to watch!

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: rextilleon
God--the RNC is going to be fascinating---I have to watch!

If for no other reason than to watch the "hysterical peace-loving pinko quasi-terrorist other-half-of-the-nation-commies" strap explosives to their b1tch t1tties and usher in the second coming of Geraldo, erm... Jesus.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: DonVito
LOL - that is funny indeed. Was Corey Feldman not available? Maybe they'll ask him to re-enact their favorite scenes from "Bio-Dome".

Here are some more luminaries from their all-star lineup:

Among other performers who will appear the convention are Christian singer Gracie Rosenburger, rock band Dexter Freebish, country singer Darryl Worley and gospel singer Donnie McClurkin.

Who the hell are Dexter Freebish?

DF, is a band played on a lot of Alternative stations. I never knew they were conservative, if anything I would have figured they were liberal. 😕

If you read their biography you can tell they are pretty straight laced christians. Have to give them some credit, they were signed with a major label, released one album, then got of their contract and released their second album on their own.

Dexter Freebish and Bowling for Soup are two bands that may never make it big, but both have huge followings in Texas.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: maluckey
So, what I get from this thread:

If someone recognizes that their lifestyle is counterproductive to happiness, their associates misguided, and their behavior wrong, they can't change???

I applaud Baldwin if he sticks to his newfound life-plan. If he reverts to his former ways, then I'll feel very sorry for him.

I think part of the ribbing that he's taking is from Liberals who find it hard to believe that someone who is in a Liberal industry can change their mind.

I used to drink like a fish, carouse, change the girls like they were underwear, party all night, never sleep, and couldn't have cared less about me, you, or anything other than getting my jollies. One day I woke up and saw there to be more to life. I quit my job, moved to another state, another career, got true friends, got married, had kids, and have never been happier. It all happened ten years ago. I have never wanted to go back to the old ways. I can only hope that it's the same for others.

If in the end he remains sincere and stays on the path he is now, okay, but I remain skeptical for now.

 

[maluckey]

digitalsm

The first healthy and sane response to Baldwins newfound attitude.

smashp

First, I wasn't "born Again", and I am not a member of any church. Your predjudice and bias is showing, along with not a small dose of immaturity. To assume because someone wants a better life that they must be somehow deluded or a religius fanatic is prime example of "braiwashed" by the masses. I make as many mistakes as anyone else. How could it be any other way? As long as I'm human, I will continue to make poor decisions. That's life....

Your labels against those who are seeking a different path than you are indicating a lack of understanding that belies youth and immaturity. Fear or loathing of a group is always unhealthy. You really should examine why you loath others so much. Could it be envy?

As far as preaching..............I really don't concern myself with converting anyone to my way of life. Most people couldn't stand the boredom anyways. I get a simple peace from no cell phone, no car payment, no credit cards, house payment, and hardly any bills except for telephone and trash pickup. I live in the country, and drive two ten year old cars. I sometimes sleep in my hammock, right after drinking a cool beer. That is life to me. Your life may be far far different and still be rewarding to you. Who am I to know?

 

[NesuD]

Originally posted by: arsbanned
Well, there are retarded Democrats.

There sure are and they're all supporting kerry. 😉

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: rickn
how appropriate, a B movie actor for a B class president

Really, of all the Baldwin's he is certainly the least known.

He is clearly doing this because he doesn;t get enough attention being overshadowed by the rest of his family. He's nothing but the punk family rebel.

 

[NesuD]

Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Christians en masse supporting the party of greed and self-interest baffles the heck out of me. As absurd as it may sound, do you HONESTLY think, according to what we know about Christ and his teachings, he would be a republican?

"party of greed and self interest" Please that stuff is so lame. Beleive me there is plenty of greed and self interest to go around in both parties. Neither can lay an exclusive claim to that.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: DonVito
LOL - that is funny indeed. Was Corey Feldman not available? Maybe they'll ask him to re-enact their favorite scenes from "Bio-Dome".

I doubt he'll re-enact scenes from that one movie he was in where he played a guy with homosexual tendencies.

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: NesuD

Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Christians en masse supporting the party of greed and self-interest baffles the heck out of me. As absurd as it may sound, do you HONESTLY think, according to what we know about Christ and his teachings, he would be a republican?

"party of greed and self interest" Please that stuff is so lame. Beleive me there is plenty of greed and self interest to go around in both parties. Neither can lay an exclusive claim to that.

Please be more specific in your denial. Is see it that Democrats are considered naieve (btw I think this phrase should be forver coined to CkG) and emotional, whereas Cons exhault the attitude of "self-reliance" (which to me equates "get you fvcking hands off my stack.") If we sat down and pondered the nature of this so called "naiveté" it point to examples like universal health care or other social programs that Cons utterly despise having to help pay for. If a Con is a real Christian, how in the hell could he take himself seriously as one when he is so stridently against helping people less fortunate than he?

 

[NesuD]

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: NesuD

Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Christians en masse supporting the party of greed and self-interest baffles the heck out of me. As absurd as it may sound, do you HONESTLY think, according to what we know about Christ and his teachings, he would be a republican?

"party of greed and self interest" Please that stuff is so lame. Beleive me there is plenty of greed and self interest to go around in both parties. Neither can lay an exclusive claim to that.

Please be more specific in your denial. Is see it that Democrats are considered naieve (btw I think this phrase should be forver coined to CkG) and emotional, whereas Cons exhault the attitude of "self-reliance" (which to me equates "get you fvcking hands off my stack.") If we sat down and pondered the nature of this so called "naiveté" it point to examples like universal health care or other social programs that Cons utterly despise having to help pay for. If a Con is a real Christian, how in the hell could he take himself seriously as one when he is so stridently against helping people less fortunate than he?

Are you a complete moron? There is no denial of anything only pointing out the simple truth that greed and self interest are not exclusive to the republican party. Every barrel has bad apples generally each barrel will have a similar number of them. As far as specifics go my post was no less specific that your simple generalization. So until you post irrefutable specific proof that the republican party has a monopoly on greed and self interest stop spouting that nonsense! Democrats are far from naive. And your dead wrong about cons being against helping people. You actually wrote the right answer but didn't know you did it. "it point to examples like universal health care or other social programs that Cons utterly despise" If you are going to basically lump the majority of Christians into the conservative camp it would be good to remember that Christians as a group are among the most charitable in this country. The problems that Conservatives have with these programs you mention is that they would be government programs. Government programs Social or not ultimately have no greater goal that perpetuating themselves. when budgets are cut then benfits are cut but almost never does the program cut the headcount of their own bureaucrats. Which is why the Federal government is the largest single employer in the US.

 

[tallest1]

RNC = Gospel & Country music night = no thanks

 

[Red Dawn]

Baldwin use to be fscked up on drugs. Now he's fscked up on Jesus. Many a druggie do exchange one crutch for another. Of course the addiction to religion is healthier though at times just as annoying.

 

[jjzelinski]

Moron, perhaps to some I suppose. We're dealing with a very subjective topic, not to mention inflamatory, so I'm not totaly surpised by your reaction, but keep in mind everything I've wrote about the subject in this conversation has been prefaced with a disclaimer of opinion. Your opinion happens to differ, I'll not outright call you a moron because of it though. So let's both try and calm down a bit.

Back to the topic at hand, what I was talking about is the basic principles of each party, or at least what I perceive them to be, and how they relate to the teachings of Christ, ceteris paribus. I'm not talking about exceptions, or even specific examples of embodiment.

I know many of the most devout Christians give generously to charities, and I respect and appreciate that. I do not, on the other hand, expect the entire nation to follow suit in that generosity without it's hand being forced. That is where I find the relevance of government sponsored social programs; it forces everybody's hand to contribute equally (a contentious claim, I know) and distributes the costs broadly. Yes, the programs may be inefficient but that might necessitate reform, not abolishment.

Following this train of thought, it seems inappropriate that a political party that is in favor of crippling many (if not most) government sponsored social programs would be embraced by the members of a religion based on love, compassion, generosity, and forgiveness.

Now that I've expressed myself I bit more clearly I hope this might lead to a more rational discussion. I look forward to your response.

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Baldwin use to be fscked up on drugs. Now he's fscked up on Jesus. Many a druggie do exchange one crutch for another. Of course the addiction to religion is healthier though at times just as annoying.

LOL, that's a bit hatsh though

 

[Gravity]

Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Christians en masse supporting the party of greed and self-interest baffles the heck out of me. As absurd as it may sound, do you HONESTLY think, according to what we know about Christ and his teachings, he would be a republican?

Nah, I think that Jesus would be a write in. However, when He returns he'll take his rightful place at God's right hand, judging the living and the dead at least that what it says in Revelations 19:

The Rider on the White Horse

11I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter."[1] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.


Apparenty, there won't be a need for a ballot.

 

[jjzelinski]

lol, I don't disagree with your point. I was tyring to keep the discussion within the confines of a specific context just for the sake of an interesting argument. If that can't be accomplished I'm no worse for wear. I still find the premise intriguing though.