A 911 tragedy comment

[Ns1]

seeing as how the govt can't keep WATERBOARDING a secret, or a BLOWJOB IN THE WHITE HOUSE a secret, I highly doubt they could keep a vast 9/11 conspiracy a secret

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: randay
bush doesnt care about tall buildings.

I spit a little dew up laughing at this one...

 

[MisterJackson]

Well, if you believe Osama planned all of this (which I'm apt to believe based on present evidence) then in a round about way 9/11 IS the governments fault. Clinton had the chance to take him out and chose not to. Had he done that then it's very likely this event would not have occured.

<____Puts away gas can after adding fuel to the flames

 

[mugs]

9/11. 911 is a phone number, not a date.

 

[UNCjigga]

I heard a rumor that it was Mike Huckabee himself behind the planning and execution for 9/11. It's all Mike Huckabee's fault!

 

[bunnyfubbles]

obligatory

 

[manlymatt83]

Originally posted by: Saint Michael

Originally posted by: techgamer
The event was a tragedy and one of the most horrific moments for our country. I hate when people claim or even suggest that a horrendous event such as 911 could have been staged by our own gov't. People must have a lot of contempt for their country if they believe that our gov't would create a terrorist act against its own country. You dont have to like the way Bush has run things. I think he has made mistakes throughout his Presidency, but by no means would I go so far to blame this event on him or his council. It makes me soo mad. Am I alone on this?

Yours is a dangerous attitude. It presupposes the invalidity of any given argument simply because it results in a strong negative emotional response from you. I don't see much validity to any of the arguments that suggest our government planned 9/11, but I consider those arguments objectively before rejecting them, instead of resorting to knee-jerk emotional reactions. So no, it doesn't leave me angry, just sort of bewildered.

QFT

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: techgamer
The event was a tragedy and one of the most horrific moments for our country. I hate when people claim or even suggest that a horrendous event such as 911 could have been staged by our own gov't. People must have a lot of contempt for their country if they believe that our gov't would create a terrorist act against its own country. You dont have to like the way Bush has run things. I think he has made mistakes throughout his Presidency, but by no means would I go so far to blame this event on him or his council. It makes me soo mad. Am I alone on this?

He has made a ton of mistakes...in fact, I'd go so far as to say that he's not really done a single thing right in his presidency. Worst president in the history of the nation IMO.

































That said, I don't think our government or GWB had anything to do with 9/11.

Edit-It doesn't make me furious that some people think this though. It just makes me think they're a little looney. Just like the people who argue that we never landed on the moon. Nutballs...

 

[CPA]

9/11 Conspirators are hypocrits.

On one hand they claim Bush is a moronic, idiotic dufus. On the other, they claim he is the mastermind behind one of the largest terroristic events ever.

 

[noto12ious]

Originally posted by: techgamer
The event was a tragedy and one of the most horrific moments for our country. I hate when people claim or even suggest that a horrendous event such as 911 could have been staged by our own gov't. People must have a lot of contempt for their country if they believe that our gov't would create a terrorist act against its own country. You dont have to like the way Bush has run things. I think he has made mistakes throughout his Presidency, but by no means would I go so far to blame this event on him or his council. It makes me soo mad. Am I alone on this?

Oops, proof of US government conspiracy.

Declassified documents: In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.


Oops, the bullet through the windshield of JFK's limo is proof of conspiracy.

Yeah, you should be angry!

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: techgamer
The event was a tragedy and one of the most horrific moments for our country. I hate when people claim or even suggest that a horrendous event such as 911 could have been staged by our own gov't. People must have a lot of contempt for their country if they believe that our gov't would create a terrorist act against its own country. You dont have to like the way Bush has run things. I think he has made mistakes throughout his Presidency, but by no means would I go so far to blame this event on him or his council. It makes me soo mad. Am I alone on this?

Oops, proof of US government conspiracy.

Declassified documents: In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.


Oops, the bullet through the windshield of JFK's limo is proof of conspiracy.

Yeah, you should be angry!

How's that proof?

 

[noto12ious]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: techgamer
The event was a tragedy and one of the most horrific moments for our country. I hate when people claim or even suggest that a horrendous event such as 911 could have been staged by our own gov't. People must have a lot of contempt for their country if they believe that our gov't would create a terrorist act against its own country. You dont have to like the way Bush has run things. I think he has made mistakes throughout his Presidency, but by no means would I go so far to blame this event on him or his council. It makes me soo mad. Am I alone on this?

Oops, proof of US government conspiracy.

Declassified documents: In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.


Oops, the bullet through the windshield of JFK's limo is proof of conspiracy.

Yeah, you should be angry!

How's that proof?

You can't really be that stupid...

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: CPA
9/11 Conspirators are hypocrits.

On one hand they claim Bush is a moronic, idiotic dufus. On the other, they claim he is the mastermind behind one of the largest terroristic events ever.

lol x10

 

[CKent]

I think there's a biological motive.

Our species seems to have a deepseated need to believe in something fantastic, exciting and unreal. In the past this need was fulfilled by god / gods, and on a daily basis. Every time it rained, God was smiling upon your crops. Every thunderstorm was Him displaying displeasure.

Over the course of the past two centuries we've steadily become more secular. And we've started believing in conspiracy theories and aliens...

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: techgamer
The event was a tragedy and one of the most horrific moments for our country. I hate when people claim or even suggest that a horrendous event such as 911 could have been staged by our own gov't. People must have a lot of contempt for their country if they believe that our gov't would create a terrorist act against its own country. You dont have to like the way Bush has run things. I think he has made mistakes throughout his Presidency, but by no means would I go so far to blame this event on him or his council. It makes me soo mad. Am I alone on this?

Oops, proof of US government conspiracy.

Declassified documents: In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.


Oops, the bullet through the windshield of JFK's limo is proof of conspiracy.

Yeah, you should be angry!

How's that proof?

You can't really be that stupid...

You can't be that ignorant to believe a single book and documentary. How about some real proof? How about the actual text of these declassified documents? Why haven't these documents been in the news, just a book?

 

[Siva]

Not that I believe September 11th was staged by the government, but I wouldn't put it past them. The people who run the US government are the most vile things on Earth.

 

[noto12ious]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: techgamer
The event was a tragedy and one of the most horrific moments for our country. I hate when people claim or even suggest that a horrendous event such as 911 could have been staged by our own gov't. People must have a lot of contempt for their country if they believe that our gov't would create a terrorist act against its own country. You dont have to like the way Bush has run things. I think he has made mistakes throughout his Presidency, but by no means would I go so far to blame this event on him or his council. It makes me soo mad. Am I alone on this?

Oops, proof of US government conspiracy.

Declassified documents: In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.


Oops, the bullet through the windshield of JFK's limo is proof of conspiracy.

Yeah, you should be angry!

How's that proof?

You can't really be that stupid...

You can't be that ignorant to believe a single book and documentary. How about some real proof? How about the actual text of these declassified documents? Why haven't these documents been in the news, just a book?

I guess you really are that stupid..

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/

it's also in the national archives...dot dot dot...

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: techgamer
The event was a tragedy and one of the most horrific moments for our country. I hate when people claim or even suggest that a horrendous event such as 911 could have been staged by our own gov't. People must have a lot of contempt for their country if they believe that our gov't would create a terrorist act against its own country. You dont have to like the way Bush has run things. I think he has made mistakes throughout his Presidency, but by no means would I go so far to blame this event on him or his council. It makes me soo mad. Am I alone on this?

Oops, proof of US government conspiracy.

Declassified documents: In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.


Oops, the bullet through the windshield of JFK's limo is proof of conspiracy.

Yeah, you should be angry!

How's that proof?

You can't really be that stupid...

You can't be that ignorant to believe a single book and documentary. How about some real proof? How about the actual text of these declassified documents? Why haven't these documents been in the news, just a book?

I guess you really are that stupid..

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/

it's also in the national archives...dot dot dot...

Thanks.

Now, proof of the JFK conspiracy?

 

[ViviTheMage]

It would not be the first time. . . .

 

[Eeezee]

If terrorists could plan an execute 911, then why couldn't someone within the government? It didn't have to be Bush or even anyone at the top.

Hell, it could have been someone living down the street from you. Who cares? What's done is done.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: techgamer
The event was a tragedy and one of the most horrific moments for our country. I hate when people claim or even suggest that a horrendous event such as 911 could have been staged by our own gov't. People must have a lot of contempt for their country if they believe that our gov't would create a terrorist act against its own country. You dont have to like the way Bush has run things. I think he has made mistakes throughout his Presidency, but by no means would I go so far to blame this event on him or his council. It makes me soo mad. Am I alone on this?

Oops, proof of US government conspiracy.

Declassified documents: In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.


Oops, the bullet through the windshield of JFK's limo is proof of conspiracy.

Yeah, you should be angry!

How's that proof?

To a CT nutjob, "proof" is whatever supports his preconceived opinion. "Lies" are whatever goes against that.

There is no point arguing with noto12ious, he's just Alex Jones' account on AT.

 

[RightIsWrong]

I don't think that they had anything to do with 9/11. But to make such a stupid blanket statement that our government couldn't possibly do something like this is pure insanity. There are people that will do whatever they believe needs to be done to accomplish what they think is right or what they think will gain them the most power or wealth. With that said, I present --

Exhibits A-F:

The Tuskegee Syphilis Study

For forty years, from 1932 to 1972, 399 African-American males were denied treatment for syphilis and deceived by officials of the United States Public Health Service. As part of a study conducted in Macon County, Alabama, poor sharecroppers were told they were being treated for ?bad blood.?In fact, the physicians in charge of the study ensured that these men went untreated. In the 25 years since its details first were revealed, the Tuskegee Syphilis study has become a powerful symbol of racism in medicine, ethical misconduct in human research, and goverment abuse of the vulnerable.

Operation Northwoods

Written in response to a request from the Chief of the Cuba Project, Col. Edward Lansdale, the Top Secret memorandum describes U.S. plans to covertly engineer various pretexts that would justify a U.S. invasion of Cuba. These proposals - part of a secret anti-Castro program known as Operation Mongoose - included staging the assassinations of Cubans living in the United States, developing a fake ?Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington,? including ?sink[ing] a boatload of Cuban refugees (real or simulated),? faking a Cuban airforce attack on a civilian jetliner, and concocting a ?Remember the Maine? incident by blowing up a U.S. ship in Cuban waters and then blaming the incident on Cuban sabotage.

Project MKULTRA

Project MKULTRA, or MK-ULTRA, was the code name for a CIA mind-control research program that began in 1950[1][2]. There is much published evidence that the project involved the use of many types of drugs to manipulate peoples' mental states and to alter brain function.[3]

The project's intentionally oblique CIA cryptonym is made up of the digraph MK, meaning that the project was sponsored by the agency's Technical Services Division, followed by the arbitrary dictionary word ULTRA.

Project MK-ULTRA was first brought to wide public attention by the U.S. Congress (in the form of the Church Committee) and a presidential commission (known as the Rockefeller Commission) and also to the U.S. Senate.

Operation Midnight Climax (Best name for a covert op EVAR!!)

Operation Midnight Climax was an operation initially established by Sidney Gottlieb and placed under the direction of Narcotics Bureau officer George White under the alias of Morgan Hall for the CIA as a sub-project of Project MKULTRA, the CIA mind-control research program that began in the 1950s.

The project consisted of a web of CIA-run safehouses in San Francisco, Marin, and New York. It was established in order to study the effects of LSD on unconsenting individuals. Prostitutes on the CIA payroll were instructed to lure clients back to the safehouses, where they were surreptitiously plied with a wide range of substances , including LSD, and monitored behind two-way mirrors. Several significant operational techniques were developed in this theater, including extensive research into sexual blackmail, surveillance technology, and the possible use of mind-altering drugs in field operations.

COINTELPRO

COINTELPRO (Counter Intelligence Program) was a program of the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation aimed at investigating and disrupting dissident political organizations within the United States. Although covert operations have been employed throughout FBI history, the formal COINTELPRO operations of 1956-1971 were broadly targeted against organizations that were (at the time) considered to have politically radical elements, ranging from those whose stated goal was the violent overthrow of the U.S. government (such as the Weathermen); non-violent civil rights groups such as Martin Luther King Jr.'s Southern Christian Leadership Conference; and violent groups like the Ku Klux Klan and the American Nazi Party. The founding document of COINTELPRO directed FBI agents to "expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize" the activities of these movements and their leaders.

Gulf of Tonkin

The Gulf of Tonkin Incident was a operation whereby allegedly a pair of attacks were carried out by naval forces of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam (commonly referred to as North Vietnam) against two American destroyers, the USS Maddox and the USS Turner Joy. The attacks were alleged to have occurred on 2 August and 4 August 1964 in the Gulf of Tonkin.[1]

Later research, including a report released in 2005 by the National Security Agency, indicated that the second attack most likely did not occur, but also attempted to dispel the long-standing assumption that members of the administration of President Lyndon B. Johnson had knowingly lied about the nature of the incident. [2][3]

In a tape recording that surfaced in 2001 President Johnson admits that the incident he used to obtain approval from congress never happened.[4]

 

[noto12ious]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: techgamer
The event was a tragedy and one of the most horrific moments for our country. I hate when people claim or even suggest that a horrendous event such as 911 could have been staged by our own gov't. People must have a lot of contempt for their country if they believe that our gov't would create a terrorist act against its own country. You dont have to like the way Bush has run things. I think he has made mistakes throughout his Presidency, but by no means would I go so far to blame this event on him or his council. It makes me soo mad. Am I alone on this?

Oops, proof of US government conspiracy.

Declassified documents: In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.


Oops, the bullet through the windshield of JFK's limo is proof of conspiracy.

Yeah, you should be angry!

How's that proof?

There is no point arguing with noto12ious, he was dead on correct with his ABC NEWS link on operation northwoods, proving the the united states government is 100% capable of conspiring against the American public.

fixed.

 

[noto12ious]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: techgamer
The event was a tragedy and one of the most horrific moments for our country. I hate when people claim or even suggest that a horrendous event such as 911 could have been staged by our own gov't. People must have a lot of contempt for their country if they believe that our gov't would create a terrorist act against its own country. You dont have to like the way Bush has run things. I think he has made mistakes throughout his Presidency, but by no means would I go so far to blame this event on him or his council. It makes me soo mad. Am I alone on this?

Oops, proof of US government conspiracy.

Declassified documents: In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.


Oops, the bullet through the windshield of JFK's limo is proof of conspiracy.

Yeah, you should be angry!

How's that proof?

You can't really be that stupid...

You can't be that ignorant to believe a single book and documentary. How about some real proof? How about the actual text of these declassified documents? Why haven't these documents been in the news, just a book?

I guess you really are that stupid..

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/

it's also in the national archives...dot dot dot...

Thanks.

Now, proof of the JFK conspiracy?

The bullet through the windshield means that "Oswald" (assuming he was a shooter) could not have possibly been the "lone gunman." The bullet through the windshield was not acknowledged in any official government report, despite the testimony of a secret service agent, the men who repaired the windshield, and a dallas doctor. photos of the windshield are widely available, including on the internet.

an extra bullet = another assassin. by definition, that is a conspiracy.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: CPA
9/11 Conspirators are hypocrits.

On one hand they claim Bush is a moronic, idiotic dufus. On the other, they claim he is the mastermind behind one of the largest terroristic events ever.

:laugh:MAO

That should be proof enough right there.