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Vic

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No... they talked about Northwoods in committee, the proposal was summarily rejected, and we know all about it.
Contrast that with your assertion that Northwoods proves that the government could actually carry out such a plan, and we would know nothing about it (decades later in JFK's case, not even on a deathbed confession), and even an idiot could see that, if anything, it is proof that the government wasn't involved in JFK or 9/11.
 

TehMac

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Originally posted by: mzkhadir
Originally posted by: techgamer
The event was a tragedy and one of the most horrific moments for our country. I hate when people claim or even suggest that a horrendous event such as 911 could have been staged by our own gov't. People must have a lot of contempt for their country if they believe that our gov't would create a terrorist act against its own country. You dont have to like the way Bush has run things. I think he has made mistakes throughout his Presidency, but by no means would I go so far to blame this event on him or his council. It makes me soo mad. Am I alone on this?

yes you are, take it PN

:roll:
 

noto12ious

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Originally posted by: Vic
No... they talked about Northwoods in committee, the proposal was summarily rejected, and we know all about it.
Contrast that with your assertion that Northwoods proves that the government could actually carry out such a plan, and we would know nothing about it (decades later in JFK's case, not even on a deathbed confession), and even an idiot could see that, if anything, it is proof that the government wasn't involved in JFK or 9/11.


Ladies and gents, i present to you the perfect example of someone in denial ^^

"The documents show "the Joint Chiefs of Staff drew up and approved plans for what may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government," writes Bamford.

The Joint Chiefs even proposed using the potential death of astronaut John Glenn during the first attempt to put an American into orbit as a false pretext for war with Cuba, the documents show.




No conspiracy there! I wonder why people are arrested for CONSPIRING TO COMMIT A CRIME. maybe the police are just...mistaken...dot dot dot...

edit: oh yeah, and the bullet through the windshield of jfk's limo is proof of a jfk conspiracy. try to refute it :)
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: CPA
9/11 Conspirators are hypocrits.

On one hand they claim Bush is a moronic, idiotic dufus. On the other, they claim he is the mastermind behind one of the largest terroristic events ever.

:laugh:MAO

That should be proof enough right there.

One would think, eh? :p

For me, the proof is that no one has ever come forward. Like I noted in my last post, not even from deathbeds as JFK "conspirators" have died off left and right.
I mean, think about it... the former US Army private who helped Hermann Goering commit suicide (in order to avoid the noose) confessed in 2005. But no one, I mean NO ONE, has ever come forward on JFK.
9/11 would have involved THOUSANDS of conspirators. No one has come forward. Not a flippin' peep.
Clinton can't get a BJ, Craig can't tap his foot in a public restroom, but we are to believe that GW Bush could mastermind the greatest conspiracy in the history of humankind.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: Vic
No... they talked about Northwoods in committee, the proposal was summarily rejected, and we know all about it.
Contrast that with your assertion that Northwoods proves that the government could actually carry out such a plan, and we would know nothing about it (decades later in JFK's case, not even on a deathbed confession), and even an idiot could see that, if anything, it is proof that the government wasn't involved in JFK or 9/11.


Ladies and gents, i present to you the perfect example of someone in denial ^^

"The documents show "the Joint Chiefs of Staff drew up and approved plans for what may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government," writes Bamford.

The Joint Chiefs even proposed using the potential death of astronaut John Glenn during the first attempt to put an American into orbit as a false pretext for war with Cuba, the documents show.




No conspiracy there! I wonder why people are arrested for CONSPIRING TO COMMIT A CRIME. maybe the police are just...mistaken...dot dot dot...

Logic is not your strong suit, is it?


Pal, I would LOVE to believe in your conspiracy theories. The world would be a much simpler place if they were all true. Good and evil, all black and white and clearly defined, with everything in balance. Sadly, 'taint so.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: lokiju
Originally posted by: techgamer
The event was a tragedy and one of the most horrific moments for our country. I hate when people claim or even suggest that a horrendous event such as 911 could have been staged by our own gov't. People must have a lot of contempt for their country if they believe that our gov't would create a terrorist act against its own country. You dont have to like the way Bush has run things. I think he has made mistakes throughout his Presidency, but by no means would I go so far to blame this event on him or his council. It makes me soo mad. Am I alone on this?

It saddens me how true this is for a lot of people these days.

:(

stop confusing your country with your government.
 

Squisher

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Aug 17, 2000
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: CPA
9/11 Conspirators are hypocrits.

On one hand they claim Bush is a moronic, idiotic dufus. On the other, they claim he is the mastermind behind one of the largest terroristic events ever.

:laugh:MAO

That should be proof enough right there.

One would think, eh? :p

For me, the proof is that no one has ever come forward. Like I noted in my last post, not even from deathbeds as JFK "conspirators" have died off left and right.
I mean, think about it... the former US Army private who helped Hermann Goering commit suicide (in order to avoid the noose) confessed in 2005. But no one, I mean NO ONE, has ever come forward on JFK.
9/11 would have involved THOUSANDS of conspirators. No one has come forward. Not a flippin' peep.
Clinton can't get a BJ, Craig can't tap his foot in a public restroom, but we are to believe that GW Bush could mastermind the greatest conspiracy in the history of humankind.
And, I might add, these people involved in this operation would all be military or CIA. These people have taken an oath to uphold the Constitution and have dedicated their lives, somewhat altruistically, to the a calling of protecting the USA. And, we are lead to believe that one day someone came in and said we are going to kill thousands of our fellow Americans in the hopes to involve us in a war on foreign soil so thousands more fellow Americans can die.

No one broke ranks, no anonymous tips to Woodward and Bernstein, not before not afterward.

 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: CPA
9/11 Conspirators are hypocrits.

On one hand they claim Bush is a moronic, idiotic dufus. On the other, they claim he is the mastermind behind one of the largest terroristic events ever.

:laugh:MAO

That should be proof enough right there.

One would think, eh? :p

For me, the proof is that no one has ever come forward. Like I noted in my last post, not even from deathbeds as JFK "conspirators" have died off left and right.
I mean, think about it... the former US Army private who helped Hermann Goering commit suicide (in order to avoid the noose) confessed in 2005. But no one, I mean NO ONE, has ever come forward on JFK.
9/11 would have involved THOUSANDS of conspirators. No one has come forward. Not a flippin' peep.
Clinton can't get a BJ, Craig can't tap his foot in a public restroom, but we are to believe that GW Bush could mastermind the greatest conspiracy in the history of humankind.
And, I might add, these people involved in this operation would all be military or CIA. These people have taken an oath to uphold the Constitution and have dedicated their lives, somewhat altruistically, to the a calling of protecting the USA. And, we are lead to believe that one day someone came in and said we are going to kill thousands of our fellow Americans in the hopes to involve us in a war on foreign soil so thousands more fellow Americans can die.

No one broke ranks, no anonymous tips to Woodward and Bernstein, not before not afterward.

That's exactly what happened, how could you possibly be so stupid?
 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: CPA
9/11 Conspirators are hypocrits.

On one hand they claim Bush is a moronic, idiotic dufus. On the other, they claim he is the mastermind behind one of the largest terroristic events ever.

:laugh:MAO

That should be proof enough right there.

One would think, eh? :p

For me, the proof is that no one has ever come forward. Like I noted in my last post, not even from deathbeds as JFK "conspirators" have died off left and right.
I mean, think about it... the former US Army private who helped Hermann Goering commit suicide (in order to avoid the noose) confessed in 2005. But no one, I mean NO ONE, has ever come forward on JFK.
9/11 would have involved THOUSANDS of conspirators. No one has come forward. Not a flippin' peep.
Clinton can't get a BJ, Craig can't tap his foot in a public restroom, but we are to believe that GW Bush could mastermind the greatest conspiracy in the history of humankind.
And, I might add, these people involved in this operation would all be military or CIA. These people have taken an oath to uphold the Constitution and have dedicated their lives, somewhat altruistically, to the a calling of protecting the USA. And, we are lead to believe that one day someone came in and said we are going to kill thousands of our fellow Americans in the hopes to involve us in a war on foreign soil so thousands more fellow Americans can die.

No one broke ranks, no anonymous tips to Woodward and Bernstein, not before not afterward.

Don't listen to his attempts at stifling your suspicion, he's "one of them"..... ;)
 

zanejohnson

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: CPA
9/11 Conspirators are hypocrits.

On one hand they claim Bush is a moronic, idiotic dufus. On the other, they claim he is the mastermind behind one of the largest terroristic events ever.

:laugh:MAO

That should be proof enough right there.

One would think, eh? :p

For me, the proof is that no one has ever come forward. Like I noted in my last post, not even from deathbeds as JFK "conspirators" have died off left and right.
I mean, think about it... the former US Army private who helped Hermann Goering commit suicide (in order to avoid the noose) confessed in 2005. But no one, I mean NO ONE, has ever come forward on JFK.
9/11 would have involved THOUSANDS of conspirators. No one has come forward. Not a flippin' peep.
Clinton can't get a BJ, Craig can't tap his foot in a public restroom, but we are to believe that GW Bush could mastermind the greatest conspiracy in the history of humankind.
And, I might add, these people involved in this operation would all be military or CIA. These people have taken an oath to uphold the Constitution and have dedicated their lives, somewhat altruistically, to the a calling of protecting the USA. And, we are lead to believe that one day someone came in and said we are going to kill thousands of our fellow Americans in the hopes to involve us in a war on foreign soil so thousands more fellow Americans can die.

No one broke ranks, no anonymous tips to Woodward and Bernstein, not before not afterward.

That's exactly what happened, how could you possibly be so stupid?

i just read the documents... yep, looks like they did in fact plan to kill american civilans to provoke a war in cuba...

and people are trying to argue the documents are what? not real? that they didnt mean what they fucking proposed? i dont get it..

 

markgm

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I can think of more horrific things. I don't think it was a horrific event for the country, just for a few people.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: zanejohnson
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: CPA
9/11 Conspirators are hypocrits.

On one hand they claim Bush is a moronic, idiotic dufus. On the other, they claim he is the mastermind behind one of the largest terroristic events ever.

:laugh:MAO

That should be proof enough right there.

One would think, eh? :p

For me, the proof is that no one has ever come forward. Like I noted in my last post, not even from deathbeds as JFK "conspirators" have died off left and right.
I mean, think about it... the former US Army private who helped Hermann Goering commit suicide (in order to avoid the noose) confessed in 2005. But no one, I mean NO ONE, has ever come forward on JFK.
9/11 would have involved THOUSANDS of conspirators. No one has come forward. Not a flippin' peep.
Clinton can't get a BJ, Craig can't tap his foot in a public restroom, but we are to believe that GW Bush could mastermind the greatest conspiracy in the history of humankind.
And, I might add, these people involved in this operation would all be military or CIA. These people have taken an oath to uphold the Constitution and have dedicated their lives, somewhat altruistically, to the a calling of protecting the USA. And, we are lead to believe that one day someone came in and said we are going to kill thousands of our fellow Americans in the hopes to involve us in a war on foreign soil so thousands more fellow Americans can die.

No one broke ranks, no anonymous tips to Woodward and Bernstein, not before not afterward.

That's exactly what happened, how could you possibly be so stupid?

i just read the documents... yep, looks like they did in fact plan to kill american civilans to provoke a war in cuba...

and people are trying to argue the documents are what? not real? that they didnt mean what they fucking proposed? i dont get it..

That if such a similar conspiracy actually occurred with JFK or 9/11 (events than actually happened unlike Northwoods), that we'd have documents and whistleblowers like we do with Northwoods.
CT'ers like to use Northwoods are "proof" that our government could discuss doing such evil things. Tell us something we don't already know! The next logical step, however, which is actually going through with it AND keeping it quiet, is something that Northwoods is actually a kind of proof AGAINST.
 

noto12ious

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: zanejohnson
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: CPA
9/11 Conspirators are hypocrits.

On one hand they claim Bush is a moronic, idiotic dufus. On the other, they claim he is the mastermind behind one of the largest terroristic events ever.

:laugh:MAO

That should be proof enough right there.

One would think, eh? :p

For me, the proof is that no one has ever come forward. Like I noted in my last post, not even from deathbeds as JFK "conspirators" have died off left and right.
I mean, think about it... the former US Army private who helped Hermann Goering commit suicide (in order to avoid the noose) confessed in 2005. But no one, I mean NO ONE, has ever come forward on JFK.
9/11 would have involved THOUSANDS of conspirators. No one has come forward. Not a flippin' peep.
Clinton can't get a BJ, Craig can't tap his foot in a public restroom, but we are to believe that GW Bush could mastermind the greatest conspiracy in the history of humankind.
And, I might add, these people involved in this operation would all be military or CIA. These people have taken an oath to uphold the Constitution and have dedicated their lives, somewhat altruistically, to the a calling of protecting the USA. And, we are lead to believe that one day someone came in and said we are going to kill thousands of our fellow Americans in the hopes to involve us in a war on foreign soil so thousands more fellow Americans can die.

No one broke ranks, no anonymous tips to Woodward and Bernstein, not before not afterward.

That's exactly what happened, how could you possibly be so stupid?

i just read the documents... yep, looks like they did in fact plan to kill american civilans to provoke a war in cuba...

and people are trying to argue the documents are what? not real? that they didnt mean what they fucking proposed? i dont get it..

That if such a similar conspiracy actually occurred with JFK or 9/11 (events than actually happened unlike Northwoods), that we'd have documents and whistleblowers like we do with Northwoods.
CT'ers like to use Northwoods are "proof" that our government could discuss doing such evil things. Tell us something we don't already know! The next logical step, however, which is actually going through with it AND keeping it quiet, is something that Northwoods is actually a kind of proof AGAINST.

actually, northwoods was kept secret for 40 years. whistleblowers indeed huh? :laugh: we only found out because some of the copies weren't destroyed (despite orders).

the bullet through the windshield of jfk's limo = proof of jfk conspiracy. i thought we went over this. intentional ignorance, vic? :roll:
FBI scientists cast doubt on official JFK lie.

we have plenty of 9/11 whistleblowers. you just choose to ignore them.
Sibel Edmonds: the most gagged person in us history. has said 9/11 = inside job. spoke out about numerous warnings, coverups, and infiltrations preceeding 9/11. 60 minutes interview. willful ignorance again, vic?
2007: Sibel Edmonds will now reveal all and face charges.



Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer: blackballed for speaking out about a two star general ordering him off the trail of lead 9/11 hijacker Mohamed Atta shortly before 9/11. 9/11 commission then lied and downplayed signifigance of Able Danger, the program that was tracking the 9/11 hijackers.

LOL: Shaffer was one of five witnesses the Pentagon ordered not to appear Sept. 21 before the Senate Judiciary Committee to discuss the unit's findings... The military revoked Shaffer's top security clearance this month, a day before he was supposed to testify to a congressional committee.


Gee golly wiz, it looks like they're making it tough for the 9/11 whisteblowers! how predictable. It's no surprise the 9/11 Commission never investigated its own government :) Why weren't Cheney and Bush put under oath again?

Oh, turns out Cheney lied and knew about an incoming flight to the Pentagon. Did Cheney give a stand-down order? No surprise that the 9/11 commission never followed up on Mineta's devastating testimony.


FBI whistleblowers Collen Rowley and Robert Wright: FBI thwarted attempts to investigate terrorist links.


 

uclaLabrat

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I would've agreed with the OP were it not for one time where I expressed the same sentiment and a buddy of mine who worked in military intel looked at me like I was an idiot and said there was a lot I didn't know.
 

Jeff7

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Historically, it's not too far-fetched. Governments have a very long tradition of cruelties against their own people. To think that it's entirely impossible now is also absurd.
 

Ruptga

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Originally posted by: Saint Michael
Originally posted by: techgamer
The event was a tragedy and one of the most horrific moments for our country. I hate when people claim or even suggest that a horrendous event such as 911 could have been staged by our own gov't. People must have a lot of contempt for their country if they believe that our gov't would create a terrorist act against its own country. You dont have to like the way Bush has run things. I think he has made mistakes throughout his Presidency, but by no means would I go so far to blame this event on him or his council. It makes me soo mad. Am I alone on this?

Yours is a dangerous attitude. It presupposes the invalidity of any given argument simply because it results in a strong negative emotional response from you. I don't see much validity to any of the arguments that suggest our government planned 9/11, but I consider those arguments objectively before rejecting them, instead of resorting to knee-jerk emotional reactions. So no, it doesn't leave me angry, just sort of bewildered.

I believe you have it backwards, he doesn't think it's stupid because the very idea upsets him, he's mad because it's a moronic accusation in the first place.

At least that's my thinking anyway. The first time I heard something about those nutjobs I just shook my head; then I realized they actually believed it themselves; then I thought ":confused: that defies all logic;" and then I got mad at them for being so utterly and indescribably moronic and opening up an entirely different can of worms that has nothing to do with the task at hand. It is just so hard to have an intelligent conversation about the shady things the government is or isn't doing when you have crackpots like that spouting misinformation.
 

noto12ious

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Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
Originally posted by: Saint Michael
Originally posted by: techgamer
The event was a tragedy and one of the most horrific moments for our country. I hate when people claim or even suggest that a horrendous event such as 911 could have been staged by our own gov't. People must have a lot of contempt for their country if they believe that our gov't would create a terrorist act against its own country. You dont have to like the way Bush has run things. I think he has made mistakes throughout his Presidency, but by no means would I go so far to blame this event on him or his council. It makes me soo mad. Am I alone on this?

Yours is a dangerous attitude. It presupposes the invalidity of any given argument simply because it results in a strong negative emotional response from you. I don't see much validity to any of the arguments that suggest our government planned 9/11, but I consider those arguments objectively before rejecting them, instead of resorting to knee-jerk emotional reactions. So no, it doesn't leave me angry, just sort of bewildered.

I believe you have it backwards, he doesn't think it's stupid because the very idea upsets him, he's mad because it's a moronic accusation in the first place.

At least that's my thinking anyway. The first time I heard something about those nutjobs I just shook my head; then I realized they actually believed it themselves; then I thought ":confused: that defies all logic;" and then I got mad at them for being so utterly and indescribably moronic and opening up an entirely different can of worms that has nothing to do with the task at hand. It is just so hard to have an intelligent conversation about the shady things the government is or isn't doing when you have crackpots like that spouting misinformation.

Actually, they have good reason to believe so. Educate yourself and enjoy the crow.

 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Thanks noto12ious for all the information you posted. Its sad that the majority think like Vic and ADDAvenger. Please step out of the box and realize your precious government isn't perfect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw

:laugh:"precious government":laugh::laugh::laugh:

That's right, those of us who aren't deluded enough to believe that the government planned 9/11 and faked the moon landing only think that way because we *snrk* love the government and masturbate to GW Bush. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!:laugh:

I think this government is a joke, and some members of it pull some very scary things. But I don't waste my time worrying about fantasy scenarios when there are very real things like the Patriot act to worry about.
 

adairusmc

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Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
Originally posted by: Saint Michael
Originally posted by: techgamer
The event was a tragedy and one of the most horrific moments for our country. I hate when people claim or even suggest that a horrendous event such as 911 could have been staged by our own gov't. People must have a lot of contempt for their country if they believe that our gov't would create a terrorist act against its own country. You dont have to like the way Bush has run things. I think he has made mistakes throughout his Presidency, but by no means would I go so far to blame this event on him or his council. It makes me soo mad. Am I alone on this?

Yours is a dangerous attitude. It presupposes the invalidity of any given argument simply because it results in a strong negative emotional response from you. I don't see much validity to any of the arguments that suggest our government planned 9/11, but I consider those arguments objectively before rejecting them, instead of resorting to knee-jerk emotional reactions. So no, it doesn't leave me angry, just sort of bewildered.

I believe you have it backwards, he doesn't think it's stupid because the very idea upsets him, he's mad because it's a moronic accusation in the first place.

At least that's my thinking anyway. The first time I heard something about those nutjobs I just shook my head; then I realized they actually believed it themselves; then I thought ":confused: that defies all logic;" and then I got mad at them for being so utterly and indescribably moronic and opening up an entirely different can of worms that has nothing to do with the task at hand. It is just so hard to have an intelligent conversation about the shady things the government is or isn't doing when you have crackpots like that spouting misinformation.

:thumbsup:
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
Originally posted by: Saint Michael
Originally posted by: techgamer
The event was a tragedy and one of the most horrific moments for our country. I hate when people claim or even suggest that a horrendous event such as 911 could have been staged by our own gov't. People must have a lot of contempt for their country if they believe that our gov't would create a terrorist act against its own country. You dont have to like the way Bush has run things. I think he has made mistakes throughout his Presidency, but by no means would I go so far to blame this event on him or his council. It makes me soo mad. Am I alone on this?

Yours is a dangerous attitude. It presupposes the invalidity of any given argument simply because it results in a strong negative emotional response from you. I don't see much validity to any of the arguments that suggest our government planned 9/11, but I consider those arguments objectively before rejecting them, instead of resorting to knee-jerk emotional reactions. So no, it doesn't leave me angry, just sort of bewildered.

I believe you have it backwards, he doesn't think it's stupid because the very idea upsets him, he's mad because it's a moronic accusation in the first place.

At least that's my thinking anyway. The first time I heard something about those nutjobs I just shook my head; then I realized they actually believed it themselves; then I thought ":confused: that defies all logic;" and then I got mad at them for being so utterly and indescribably moronic and opening up an entirely different can of worms that has nothing to do with the task at hand. It is just so hard to have an intelligent conversation about the shady things the government is or isn't doing when you have crackpots like that spouting misinformation.

Actually, they have good reason to believe so. Educate yourself and enjoy the crow.

NOTHING HAPPENED!!! You keep linking to something that never actually happened.

So stupid. So if someone wish they could murder you because of your stupidity, would they be a murderer? Just for thinking about it?

Thank you for only proving why conspiracy theorist are so silly.
 

adairusmc

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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
Originally posted by: Saint Michael
Originally posted by: techgamer
The event was a tragedy and one of the most horrific moments for our country. I hate when people claim or even suggest that a horrendous event such as 911 could have been staged by our own gov't. People must have a lot of contempt for their country if they believe that our gov't would create a terrorist act against its own country. You dont have to like the way Bush has run things. I think he has made mistakes throughout his Presidency, but by no means would I go so far to blame this event on him or his council. It makes me soo mad. Am I alone on this?

Yours is a dangerous attitude. It presupposes the invalidity of any given argument simply because it results in a strong negative emotional response from you. I don't see much validity to any of the arguments that suggest our government planned 9/11, but I consider those arguments objectively before rejecting them, instead of resorting to knee-jerk emotional reactions. So no, it doesn't leave me angry, just sort of bewildered.

I believe you have it backwards, he doesn't think it's stupid because the very idea upsets him, he's mad because it's a moronic accusation in the first place.

At least that's my thinking anyway. The first time I heard something about those nutjobs I just shook my head; then I realized they actually believed it themselves; then I thought ":confused: that defies all logic;" and then I got mad at them for being so utterly and indescribably moronic and opening up an entirely different can of worms that has nothing to do with the task at hand. It is just so hard to have an intelligent conversation about the shady things the government is or isn't doing when you have crackpots like that spouting misinformation.

Actually, they have good reason to believe so. Educate yourself and enjoy the crow.



So stupid. So if someone wish they could murder you because of your stupidity, would they be a murderer?

I am glad that is not the case. If it were, I would be a serial killer.

 

noto12ious

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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
Originally posted by: Saint Michael
Originally posted by: techgamer
The event was a tragedy and one of the most horrific moments for our country. I hate when people claim or even suggest that a horrendous event such as 911 could have been staged by our own gov't. People must have a lot of contempt for their country if they believe that our gov't would create a terrorist act against its own country. You dont have to like the way Bush has run things. I think he has made mistakes throughout his Presidency, but by no means would I go so far to blame this event on him or his council. It makes me soo mad. Am I alone on this?

Yours is a dangerous attitude. It presupposes the invalidity of any given argument simply because it results in a strong negative emotional response from you. I don't see much validity to any of the arguments that suggest our government planned 9/11, but I consider those arguments objectively before rejecting them, instead of resorting to knee-jerk emotional reactions. So no, it doesn't leave me angry, just sort of bewildered.

I believe you have it backwards, he doesn't think it's stupid because the very idea upsets him, he's mad because it's a moronic accusation in the first place.

At least that's my thinking anyway. The first time I heard something about those nutjobs I just shook my head; then I realized they actually believed it themselves; then I thought ":confused: that defies all logic;" and then I got mad at them for being so utterly and indescribably moronic and opening up an entirely different can of worms that has nothing to do with the task at hand. It is just so hard to have an intelligent conversation about the shady things the government is or isn't doing when you have crackpots like that spouting misinformation.

Actually, they have good reason to believe so. Educate yourself and enjoy the crow.

NOTHING HAPPENED!!! You keep linking to something that never actually happened.

So stupid. So if someone wish they could murder you because of your stupidity, would they be a murderer? Just for thinking about it?

Thank you for only proving why conspiracy theorist are so silly.

Conspiracy to commit a crime against the people of the United States of America (and then cover it all up) "happened". You fail at reading comprehension and understanding the point of the entire thread.

edit: People are imprisoned all the time for "conspiracy to commit murder". You lose.
 

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Originally posted by: noto12ious

Conspiracy to commit a crime against the people of the United States of America (and then cover it all up) "happened". You fail at reading comprehension and understanding the point of the entire thread.

I didn't realize that conspiracy=actual event. You're trying to prove we did 9/11 based on the fact that they considered doing so in the past. But you also are providing proof that our government reviewed those actions and declined to take said action against its own people.

Thanks for providing evidence that our government is smart enough not to do something like that.