See, I think this is the whole thing behind all of it. They kind of butt heads alot on how things should be done, which leads to some fights.
See, I think this is the whole thing behind all of it. They kind of butt heads alot on how things should be done, which leads to some fights.
waggy
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when it comes to teh kitchen whoever is in there the most should make the decision. my father would never tell my mom that she had to get stove vs a dishwasher (or whatever). he was not the one useing it.
oh and OP your dad sounds like an ass. "
Ah yes, she has used this. My father is the one who brings in 90% of the money, so he says, "well in that case, I'll take all my money that I make and only spend it on things I want, and you can take yours and spend it on what you want.""
oh and OP your dad sounds like an ass. "
Ah yes, she has used this. My father is the one who brings in 90% of the money, so he says, "well in that case, I'll take all my money that I make and only spend it on things I want, and you can take yours and spend it on what you want.""
Rig the dishwasher to short circuit. Start it up while shooing everybody out the door ("It's mom's birthday, let me treat everyone to dinner"), making sure nobody looks out the car's rear window.
Return from a lovely dinner to the sounds of fire truck sirens and the neighborhood watching the house in flames.
Say "Dad... <insert witty "told you so comment here">".
profit.
Return from a lovely dinner to the sounds of fire truck sirens and the neighborhood watching the house in flames.
Say "Dad... <insert witty "told you so comment here">".
profit.
I don't get it. What does your dad plan to do? Does he want to save the money to use on something else? That would be dishonest and speaks very badly of his character.
The money was given to your mother with the stipulation that it be used for a new stove or dishwasher right? So it should be looked at not as money, but as a new stove or dishwasher.
The money can't be used for anything else without insulting the grandmother to some degree and if that's OK with him then he doesn't sound like a very cool guy.
The money was given to your mother with the stipulation that it be used for a new stove or dishwasher right? So it should be looked at not as money, but as a new stove or dishwasher.
The money can't be used for anything else without insulting the grandmother to some degree and if that's OK with him then he doesn't sound like a very cool guy.
Nice dysfunctional family scenario there. Takes two (or three) to tangle. If he's been the bread winner, and his "cheap" habits have gotten you all this far, then who are you to question it? If you're comfortably in the black, that's why. Old habits die hard, and the results of those habits speak for themselves. Who's doing all the work, and remodeling? I just love how some people sit back and give advice and opinions without being any help.
>Does he want to save the money to use on something else? That would be dishonest and speaks very badly of his character.
It's entirely possible to save the money and use it when the current stove/dishwasher breaks.
The father has probably been called in whenever the stove or dishwasher was malfunctioning, so throwing away his hard work by getting rid of them while they are in working condition is disrespectful and wasteful.
It's entirely possible to save the money and use it when the current stove/dishwasher breaks.
The father has probably been called in whenever the stove or dishwasher was malfunctioning, so throwing away his hard work by getting rid of them while they are in working condition is disrespectful and wasteful.
Originally posted by: Pikachu
How did this expensive new unit make the job easier?
Sh!tty DWers require rinsing things before you can put them in there.
It was actually me who got us started on getting this old vinyl flooring up that we had to put down something that would actually look decent. I would say I took up about 75% of vinyl floor and I will probably be installing the laminate flooring too. It's also me who has done alot of the remodeling around the house(built a patio, layed some bricks, and finished off our bonus room to name a few).
We have that same dishwasher at my parent's house. It works fine... Except for the fact that it doesn't wash dishes anymore - there's a layer of crud deposited firmly inside the bottom of every drinking glass.
Seriously, you don't rinse dishes before putting them in the dishwasher? How long between washings? Mine sits for days between uses, so letting food decay in the mean time isn't an option.Originally posted by: Mike
Sh!tty DWers require rinsing things before you can put them in there.Originally posted by: Pikachu
How did this expensive new unit make the job easier?
Zebo
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Not really I bought a new one, a bosch, because kitchen is right behind family room and you could hear the new maytag that was in there. Bosch you can't even hear 5 ft away. That's crazy
I'm into quiet appliances and computers so it was a pleasure to replace. BTW I stilll have that maytag sitting in garage its brand new, black, I'll give it to the OP to give to your mom since your dad is such a cheap skate... just PM me.
Originally posted by: Pikachu
Seriously, you don't rinse dishes before putting them in the dishwasher? How long between washings? Mine sits for days between uses, so letting food decay in the mean time isn't an option.Originally posted by: Mike
Sh!tty DWers require rinsing things before you can put them in there.Originally posted by: Pikachu
How did this expensive new unit make the job easier?
If you're by yourself then I can see that not being a problem. A lot of families do the dishes every night. When you're doing them that often, you don't want to have to rinse everything first, then run the dish washer.
My Kitchenaid is about 20 years old, with no sign of giving up the ghost, but it's noisy. I make sure we only run it when it won't bother anybody. What model Bosch is so quiet? How much? I'm not going to repair this one when it dies, just find a nice quiet one. I got my use out of it.
We don't wash every night by a long shot. Probably eat fast food or eat out too often. Makes the cost of a new dishwasher seem trivial. Hell, if I avoid eating out for a month, the thing would be paid for!
Yikes, make that three months of no eating out!
We don't wash every night by a long shot. Probably eat fast food or eat out too often. Makes the cost of a new dishwasher seem trivial. Hell, if I avoid eating out for a month, the thing would be paid for!
Yikes, make that three months of no eating out!
fatpat268
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Hmm... Am I the only one that thinks dishwashers are pointless? I've used one a few times, and... i dunno, it seems to cause more work than washing dishes by hand. I refuse to use a dishwasher, and I'm currently considering replacing my dishwasher for a freezer that would fit in that hole instead. I'll just stick to doing it the "hard way."
Eh, I'm half off topic... just a personal aside.
Eh, I'm half off topic... just a personal aside.
Originally posted by: fatpat268
Hmm... Am I the only one that thinks dishwashers are pointless? I've used one a few times, and... i dunno, it seems to cause more work than washing dishes by hand. I refuse to use a dishwasher, and I'm currently considering replacing my dishwasher for a freezer that would fit in that hole instead. I'll just stick to doing it the "hard way."
Eh, I'm half off topic... just a personal aside.
Try doing that with a house full of kids. That's where the dishwasher becomes handy.
Here at the apartment, we have no use for ours whatsoever, unless we had friends over the previous evening and need the power-wash to get the taste of alcohol out of a dozen drinking glasses that never should've had alcohol in them to begin with (non-disposable plastic = do not use for alcohol)
Zebo
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Originally posted by: fatpat268
Hmm... Am I the only one that thinks dishwashers are pointless? I've used one a few times, and... i dunno, it seems to cause more work than washing dishes by hand. I refuse to use a dishwasher, and I'm currently considering replacing my dishwasher for a freezer that would fit in that hole instead. I'll just stick to doing it the "hard way."
Eh, I'm half off topic... just a personal aside.
Have some kids...ours runs 2 or 3x a day. And yea we have a freezer too stand up 27 cu fter wich would never fit in dishwasher space.
Snap together or glue laminate. I recommed glue for kitchens. Install in an offset pattern, make a row and cut the last piece the right lenght to fi with a 1/4" gap for expansion, Then take the remnant and start with it for the second row. Glue the first three rows then strap they together for two hours to dry.
Here's what you do.
Tell the grandma to not give your mom $$$, and instead use the money to order a new DW as your mom's b-day present. This way, your dad really has no say in it.
But being kind of late in the game, your dad will probably go "Do you think i'm an idiot?".
Tell the grandma to not give your mom $$$, and instead use the money to order a new DW as your mom's b-day present. This way, your dad really has no say in it.
But being kind of late in the game, your dad will probably go "Do you think i'm an idiot?".
Has nobody at your house heard of energy efficiency? I'm sure that alone would justify the cost over a few years...
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