A-10 VS 4 Dudes

[Rent]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: Rent
Doesn't sound like a 30mm. The rate at which that cannon fires rounds is astronomical, so much so that it slows the plane down when fired.

Yea I've seen one fire and WOW you can't even hear individual rounds. It's just so quick.

I've seen a 'Hog used to render a downed vehicle unrecoverable to the enemy. The main gun is some awesomely ridiculous, I just wish it had been a training exercise instead of the result of IED kill.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Looks like the rounds counter starts at 303 and ends up at 263...

So 40 rounds in two bursts.

TADS (target acquisition designation sight) suggests the initial range is ~1500 yards.

Seems like it is an Apache to me (speed over ground is about 75 knots).

How do you come up with 9700 feet?

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
That second volley was unnecessary

Nah...gotta make sure the target is neutralized...just like the pharmacist did.


I remember the "Puff the Magic Dragon" gunships in Vietnam.

Vulcan mini-guns firing at something like 3600 rounds per minute. They just made a loud "whirring" noise...and everything turned into mist....

 

[Regs]

They were not even running for cover. Didn't even see it coming. I was thinking there was going to be at least a reaction after the barrels went off. Pretty cool death machine.

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: Regs
They were not even running for cover. Didn't even see it coming. I was thinking there was going to be at least a reaction after the barrels went off. Pretty cool death machine.

They wouldn't know until after they'd been hit. The rounds travel faster than the speed of sound.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Rent

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: Rent
Doesn't sound like a 30mm. The rate at which that cannon fires rounds is astronomical, so much so that it slows the plane down when fired.

Yea I've seen one fire and WOW you can't even hear individual rounds. It's just so quick.

I've seen a 'Hog used to render a downed vehicle unrecoverable to the enemy. The main gun is some awesomely ridiculous, I just wish it had been a training exercise instead of the result of IED kill.

I used to lase for them in Germany. They can tear a truck body to pieces.

The Cobras were pretty neat too. They come in and hover and fire the minigun. This pushed them backwards and raised the tail.

 

[MrMatt]

The A-10s used to be housed in my hometown on a base for a long time, at least most of them, I'm sure there were others I didn't know of. When i was a kid I thought they were fighter jets.

 

[keird]

Originally posted by: MrWizzard
Every tenth round is a tracer, so the bullets you actually see are every tenth; they are getting hit with hundreds of rounds

Can anyone in the military confim that this story could be real, I mean fact wise? I was just wondering.

That video is from a FLIR (Forward Looking Infra Red) thermal imaging device. The video even says that. Those rounds are each, not every tenth. If we were viewing regular video, or even low-light, then yes, we'd see every whateverth round.

This appears to be taken by an AH-64 Apache attack helicopter. The counter in the bottom right is the 30mm ammo count. 300 rounds is the same load out for an AH-64.

 

[Auggie]

Man, that is truly some gory shit.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: Rent

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: Rent
Doesn't sound like a 30mm. The rate at which that cannon fires rounds is astronomical, so much so that it slows the plane down when fired.

Yea I've seen one fire and WOW you can't even hear individual rounds. It's just so quick.

I've seen a 'Hog used to render a downed vehicle unrecoverable to the enemy. The main gun is some awesomely ridiculous, I just wish it had been a training exercise instead of the result of IED kill.

sucks that they are finally going to get rid of them.

 

[Kalmah]

marked for later

 

[iamwiz82]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...cXDl4o&feature=related

It sounds like a turboprop engine when they fire/

 

[theflyingpig]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
That second volley was unnecessary

You are a weak minded fool. In war you must make certain the enemy is slaughtered. Everyone knows this.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...cXDl4o&feature=related

It sounds like a turboprop engine when they fire/

best part is when pilots talk about it; they say when you first start the burst the recoil makes you feel like you've stopped flying forward.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: Regs
They were not even running for cover. Didn't even see it coming. I was thinking there was going to be at least a reaction after the barrels went off. Pretty cool death machine.

From the UT3 owners manual...

"The shot you hear is nothing to worry about"

:^D

 

[Pacfanweb]

Yes, that looks real, and the dog wasn't that close.

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: gwai lo
Yeah..seems overkill that an A-10 would be sent after such soft targets.

An A-10 pilot told me 2 years ago that it is against the rules of engagement for the A-10 to be deployed against soft targets.

 

[Slew Foot]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
That second volley was unnecessary

Why was it unnecessary?

Those guys were already worm food after the first.

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Rent

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: Rent
Doesn't sound like a 30mm. The rate at which that cannon fires rounds is astronomical, so much so that it slows the plane down when fired.

Yea I've seen one fire and WOW you can't even hear individual rounds. It's just so quick.

I've seen a 'Hog used to render a downed vehicle unrecoverable to the enemy. The main gun is some awesomely ridiculous, I just wish it had been a training exercise instead of the result of IED kill.

sucks that they are finally going to get rid of them.

They're scheduled to remain in active service until 2028 at least. That's why we just spent $4.5billion to upgrade them to A-10Cs.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

You'd know about it if it were an A10.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: mwmorph
The Apache uses a single barrel autocannon capable of 625 rounds per second. The A10 uses a 3900 round per second, 7 barrel system. They can share ammunition, both build to 30x173mm rounds, but the GAU-8 in the A10 usually uses 4 AP and 1 HE ratio while the M230 tends to use more HE rounds.

Also, the usual range pilots try to use them are around 1200-1500yards. 2 miles is technically doable, the ballistic profile of the bullets will do tat range, but accuracy will be a bit of a problem.

This is what an A10 sounds like, completely different sound profile:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sALiuWg_I1k
That's what 10k lb/ft of recoil sounds like.

I'm assuming you mean rounds per minute, not second. A gun firing 3900 rounds per second would be absolutely insane.

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Well excuse me if I'm extremely skeptical that a million rounds were fired independantly in that last volley.

 

[Wheezer]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
That second volley was unnecessary

Why was it unnecessary?

Those guys were already worm food after the first.

not really.....they could have survived...minus a leg or arm but unless you are right there you cannot say definitively they were dead......the second volley helps ensure they are dead and if anyone is alive they die quickly and don't suffer.

If I was hit in the back with one of those rounds and it blew my stomach, spleen and intestines out the front..if the trauma and shock did not kill me right away I would hope that someone would put a bullet in my head to make sure.

 

[JasonSix78]

Just for reference, here's a Hog in action from the Gun Cam/Tracking Systems view. He lets off a burst at 1:23 in the video.

Gun Cam

 

[sundev]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
That second volley was unnecessary

Why was it unnecessary?

Those guys were already worm food after the first.

Actually it looks like the guy that's furthest to the right when the video starts is moving after the first volley.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

OP, you should know chain emails are BS.

in the linked video, it appears the fire is coming from camera left, as opposed to a coaxial camera. could someone explain?

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

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that's Metalstorm. although impressive, i don't think the technology will catch on except for a few specialized roles, like unmanned stationary sentries.