A 1 bedroom costs HOW MUCH!? LA/NY edition

[Blackjack200]

I was thinking more along the lines of the weekend when people say they'll be back all the time. But weekends mean other things for people after they grow out of the single stage.

If weeknights, why wouldn't they just stay there after work? Very few move into the burbs just because of work in the suburbs. These are still city job people we're talking about.

If you stay out after work it's still going to take you another hour to get home on the train (when you consider getting to the train, taking the train, and getting home from the train).

It's easy to say "oh, just stay out after work" or "oh, just take the train in for the weekend". The reality is it almost never happens, single or attached.

 

[rh71]

If you stay out after work it's still going to take you another hour to get home on the train (when you consider getting to the train, taking the train, and getting home from the train).

It's easy to say "oh, just stay out after work" or "oh, just take the train in for the weekend". The reality is it almost never happens, single or attached.

Some do it (my wife used to before kids), but regardless, that still invalidates your contention that people don't want to take the train out because they are in the burbs. They are already in the city.

As for the weekends, I edited my previous post to add that we actually drive out. The train is only better when we plan to go EVERYWHERE in NYC meaning LIRR+subways is better. We still go out there, but not as often because... well kids.

 

[K1052]

I was thinking more along the lines of the weekend when people say they'll be back all the time. But weekends mean other things for people after they grow out of the single stage.

If weeknights, why wouldn't they just stay there after work? Very few move into the burbs just because of work in the suburbs. These are still city job people we're talking about.

The social calendar of city dwellers isn't limited to the weekend so they are by default excluded from many things. This is not conducive to maintaining social relationships that one might try to lever during the rare occasions the suburban dwellers have the time and inclination to visit the city.

Why do people head right back out after work or at least post-work drinks?

1) SO waiting at home
2) Train Schedule
3) SO waiting at home
4) SO waiting at home
5) SO waiting at home
6) SO waiting at home
7) See kids

Whereas previously said SO could go out with you to do stuff with friends, have dinner, etc because they are present.

 

[Anubis]

I love the city. I live in Cambridge, have a yard, I'm a block away from the river with 20 miles of running/bike trails along it. 15 minute drive to get to 80 miles of hiking trails. I can walk to Harvard, Harvard Sq, MIT and 100s of restaurants, live music, etc. And I've walked to Fenway Park in Boston to catch a game.

I have a ten minute bike ride to work or can take a bus or subway. But today, I walked to work. My last three jobs have all been within the city with dozens of biotechs, Amazon, Microsoft, Google, VMWare, Akamai, etc all blocks away from one another, driving isn't really necessary.

For lunch, I go to an Asian bistro food truck for $5 and the restaurant price range runs the full range from fancy to dive bar due to all the professionals and students.

where in Cambridge do you live that you actually have a yard? im only asking because I used to live in Cambridge and well yards were pretty scarce. I have to assume you live north of Harvard somaplace.

and I agree with all the things you said but when you do need to drive getting out of town sucks unless its at like 4 AM

 

[Ns1]

where in Cambridge do you live that you actually have a yard?

where all the fake ass pats fans live.

 

[Blackjack200]

Some do it (my wife used to before kids), but regardless, that still invalidates your contention that people don't want to take the train out because they are in the burbs. They are already in the city.

No, it doesn't. People fall into routines, and those routines might include taking the same train home every day or hanging out with your friends at a fun place because you don't have an hour long commute.

As for the weekends, I edited my previous post to add that we actually drive out. The train is only better when we plan to go EVERYWHERE in NYC meaning LIRR+subways is better. We still go out there, but not as often because... well kids.

I don't know how it is in LI, but from NJ I would only drive into the city (Staten Island doesn't count) if I wanted to punish myself pretty severely.

Are you seriously arguing that people who want a city lifestyle should live in the suburbs to save a few bucks and have a few more sq. feet?

I'm not saying that people that live in the suburbs can't have fun or do things in the city.

 

[rh71]

Why do people head right back out after work or at least post-work drinks?

1) SO waiting at home
2) Train Schedule
3) SO waiting at home
4) SO waiting at home
5) SO waiting at home
6) SO waiting at home
7) See kids

Whereas previously said SO could go out with you to do stuff with friends, have dinner, etc because they are present.

Their SO is waiting at home so they don't want to go home but rather go back out for drinks? Why would the SO be home in the burbs if you say they could've gone out together prior to living in the burbs? Doesn't that mean the SO was also in the city? Why can't the SO also stay in the city and get drinks?

I think you'd have a better argument if you said the city guy is more inclined to go back home to the SO in the burbs.

 

[rh71]

I don't know how it is in LI, but from NJ I would only drive into the city (Staten Island doesn't count) if I wanted to punish myself pretty severely.

There's free parking after 7 and on weekends driving an hour into the city is fine (the LIRR+subway takes just as long). We do that because we don't want to be messing with the LIRR at 11pm and then driving from the station home. Driving straight home sounds a lot better doesn't it? Again if it's weeknights, you'd stay in the city after work.

Are you seriously arguing that people who want a city lifestyle should live in the suburbs to save a few bucks and have a few more sq. feet?

Absolutely not. I only mentioned anything because it was stated that people move to the burbs and are never heard from again. I explained why it could be. They have other responsibilities. Distance is a factor, but not a primary one. Again, if already in the city, they stay there to hang out. Or they have reason to want to come home to the burbs now, which singles wouldn't understand (or claim it's because they simply moved far away - think of why they moved away).

No, it doesn't. People fall into routines, and those routines might include taking the same train home every day or hanging out with your friends at a fun place because you don't have an hour long commute.

I think the disconnect is you think people who move into the burbs are also working in the burbs. I don't know many situations where city people get a new job in the burbs. The pay is significantly greater in NYC and the cost for house/taxes in the burbs is high so you need that salary, or more likely, unwilling to give it up.

The Long Island Rail Road is the busiest commuter railroad in North America, carrying an average of 301,000 customers each weekday on 735 daily trains.

 

[purbeast0]

i've never been a city person in general. i like to go into dc or smaller cities around md/va (bethesda and arlington) but i would never want to live in them. i actually hate going into dc now though unless the place i'm going is right off the metro. i hate driving there so much now.

not a chance i would ever want to live in NYC either. it was fun to visit for sure, but to live there definitely not.

 

[K1052]

Doesn't that mean the SO was also in the city? Why can't the SO also stay in the city and get drinks?

I think you'd have a better argument if you said the city guy is more inclined to go back home to the SO in the burbs.

Or at least living there if they one works in another node near/in the city. You're most likely to go out where you live not where you work.

 

[K1052]

I think the disconnect is you think people who move into the burbs are also working in the burbs. I don't know many situations where city people get a new job in the burbs. The pay is significantly greater in NYC and the cost for house/taxes in the burbs is high so you need that salary, or more likely, unwilling to give it up.

This was mentioned previously. I allow that people's priorities can shift but I'm not among those saying that you can still enjoy both without serious compromise when it's obvious that isn't realistic. We're not just pulling this out of our ass since anybody living in a major city has seen this time and again. Distance and inconvenience are two major factors that in concert with reordered priorities (either as a cause or a consequence of moving) lead to these outcomes.

 

[Capt Caveman]

where in Cambridge do you live that you actually have a yard? im only asking because I used to live in Cambridge and well yards were pretty scarce. I have to assume you live north of Harvard somaplace.

and I agree with all the things you said but when you do need to drive getting out of town sucks unless its at like 4 AM

Cambridgeport

It can suck some times but I'm a block from Memorial Dr and a few blocks away from the BU Bridge and Western Ave which allows me to get over to the other side and I can just on Storrow or the Mass Pike from there.

where all the fake ass pats fans live.

:thumbsup:

 

[Captante]

i'd like to see a murder map overlaid onto the housing map.

The person those rent numbers would make me want to murder would be my landlord!