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A 1,150 horse power chevelle??!?

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: guapo337
Originally posted by: Millennium
Well it is possible but I really doubt it runs on kerosene(jet fuel).
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jet fuel is kerosene?

kerosene is diesel.

so jetfuel=diesel.

yes?
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Umm negatory. Diesel= Diesel. Jet fuel IS kerosene.
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Actually K1 kerosene is very similar to Diesel # 1 and I have seen farmers run it in tractors before.

 
You can run AvGas (100LL) in some turbine engines. The Pratt PT6 turboprop comes to mind, for about 150hrs between overhauls.
 
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge
Actually gas turbine engines (turbine engine like a jet but not a jet engine) can run on peanut oil, kerosene, diesel..just about anything you can pour in it that burns.
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Yep. Remember the turbine car that Chrysler was experimenting with? Ran on just about anything.
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Yeap, thats one of the ones I was thinking off. They scrapped it cause of the poor fuel milage but then they figured out people always were showing it to thier friends and had it idling (at like 15k rpm) which was brutal on fuel consumption. The british had a racecar with one once but the spool of the turbine was so slow that they would have to hammer the throttle at the same time as the brake to get the rpm up when going into a corner.
 
Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: guapo337
Originally posted by: Millennium
Well it is possible but I really doubt it runs on kerosene(jet fuel).
Click to expand...

jet fuel is kerosene?

kerosene is diesel.

so jetfuel=diesel.

yes?
Click to expand...

Umm negatory. Diesel= Diesel. Jet fuel IS kerosene.
Click to expand...

Actually K1 kerosene is very similar to Diesel # 1 and I have seen farmers run it in tractors before.
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Well you have the unrefined stuff that has the dye markers. Anything off-road doesn't have to pay the heavy taxes and it cannot be used on roads or you get a heavy fine.
 
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: guapo337
Originally posted by: Millennium
Well it is possible but I really doubt it runs on kerosene(jet fuel).
Click to expand...

jet fuel is kerosene?

kerosene is diesel.

so jetfuel=diesel.

yes?
Click to expand...

Umm negatory. Diesel= Diesel. Jet fuel IS kerosene.
Click to expand...

Actually K1 kerosene is very similar to Diesel # 1 and I have seen farmers run it in tractors before.
Click to expand...

Well you have the unrefined stuff that has the dye markers. Anything off-road doesn't have to pay the heavy taxes and it cannot be used on roads or you get a heavy fine.
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Yeap. I have heard of farmers getting pulled over in the farm trucks and having the fuel checked for dye.
 
Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge
Actually gas turbine engines (turbine engine like a jet but not a jet engine) can run on peanut oil, kerosene, diesel..just about anything you can pour in it that burns.
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Yep. Remember the turbine car that Chrysler was experimenting with? Ran on just about anything.
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Yeap, thats one of the ones I was thinking off. They scrapped it cause of the poor fuel milage but then they figured out people always were showing it to thier friends and had it idling (at like 15k rpm) which was brutal on fuel consumption. The british had a racecar with one once but the spool of the turbine was so slow that they would have to hammer the throttle at the same time as the brake to get the rpm up when going into a corner.
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the turbine car almost won the indy 500 😀
 
freedomsbeat212, I would bet that the fuel your friend was talking about is not jet fuel but the 110 octane stuff that light aircraft use.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
he could be running avgas. that stuff is so volatile that if you pour some out of a vial on a warm day it will evaporate before it hits the ground.
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You have that backwards. Avgas is LESS volatile than regular gas, so it evaporates SLOWER. Try it sometime, and you'll see. That's why it's hard to start race cars in cold weather....the gas is harder to ignite.

1. Your cousin is most certainly full of it.
2. NO Chevelle EVER, EVER came with 475 hp. 450hp 454 cid LS6 is the most ever. (rated)
3. No race car engine runs on "jet" fuel. Unless it has a jet engine. There is no drag race engine that can't run just fine on high octane racing gas.
4. 1150 hp isn't that big a deal these days. You can buy over 1000hp engines all day long. You can buy the parts and assemble them yourself. So if he has plenty of cash, sure, he could have an 1150hp engine.
He is just laying it on a bit thick since you aren't familiar with the subject matter.
5. You can get racing fuel well over 115 octane at most any track. Avgas, IIRC, is just over 100 octane, but again, IIRC, they rate it differently.
I've used it in my race engine several times and it seems to run about the same as race gas, just more of a pain in the ass to go to the airport and buy it. It is a bit cheaper, though.
 
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
A while ago my cousin told me that he was working on a soupped up chevelle and passingly mentioned that it came stock with a 475 HP engine.. That was pretty impressive to me but I met with him the other day for lunch and he started talking about his car again.. Turns out that he recently upgraded the engine to a 1,150 horse powered super-charged engine! Is that even possible??!?! He said that he uses jet fuel for it - something about it increasing the horse power significantly and it burning cleaner.. Is this even possible or is he full of B.S.? He's a very handy guy - I rid in the truck that he built from scratch (picked up the frame from a junkyard and did all the work himself) but 1,150 seems a bit unreal to me...
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It's possible. You should read Hot Rod magazine or scour their webpages/forums. Its quite possible to get a Chevelle or any muscle car form the that era to make big power. I remember reading some guy who had a 70s Corvette that made 1200RWHP !!! I think I posted about it here as well.
 
Maybe he meant alcohol instead of racing gas. A car can only handl so much power before the frame starts twisting and the doors no longer close and it basically ruins a great classic car.
 
The horsepower is no big deal. 1100? I have a friend that has that in a Malibu. The parachute could be track/race class rules. Again no big deal. Jet fuel? nah.
 
Navy leaders are extremely safety-conscious about fuels. When a Navy jet is refueled in flight by an Air Force tanker with Air Force fuel, safety rules prohibit the plane from being stored below deck on the ship when it lands.
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This is really interesting - I had never heard this before.
 
i thought kerosene is like 100 times less combustable than car fuel?!!?!?!?!?!??!!?

they use kerosene because it's not likely to EXPLODE THE PLANE...

i donno...i donno much about fuel and stuff...i could be wrong

always thought that car fuel was far more combustible than jet fuel...by a huge huge margine too...
 
He is FULL of SH!T. Just TRY running a engine on jet fuel!
You WILL be buying a new engine!

I was a jet engine Mech. and one of the first things they told us was DO NOT try running jet fuel in you CAR!!

You CAN run them on Av-gas, but there is a HUGE differance.

And I call B.S. on the 475 HP STOCK motor as well!
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BTW: Jet fuel is kerosene, though it may have a few other additives in it, it is mosty kerosene .
 
Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
"And I call B.S. on the 475 HP STOCK motor as well! "

It's not far off. LS6 was rated at 450hp.
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25 horses is 25 horses.

To the best of MY knowledge, Chevy never made a engine that would do 475 off the lot.

However.

Overshadowing these dealer modified Camaros was the factory Camaro ZL1. Specially designed to compete in the NHRA Super Stock drag classes, Chevrolet made it an option under the COPO system (code 9560). The cars began as SS396/375bhp Camaros with the F41 suspension. The SS trim and engine were deleted, and the 427 engine, cowl-induction hood, front disc brakes, a choice of heavy duty 4 speed transmissions or Turbo Hydra-matic, and a 4:10 posi axle were added. But instead of the regular iron-block and head L72 found in the dealer installed Camaros, the ZL1 sported aluminum heads and the first aluminum block ever made by Chevrolet. It shared the L88 aluminum head/iron block's engine rating of 430 bhp but made closer to 500 bhp -- making it probably the most powerful engine Chevrolet ever offered to the public. And the engine weighed just 500 pounds, the same as Chevy's 327 small block. The car was blessed with a 5 year/50,000 mile warranty and was fully street legal. With factory exhausts and tires, it turned low 13s; with headers and slicks, it could turn 11.6s @ 122mph. This was the fastest car ever produced by Chevrolet. Performance had its price -- $4,160 for the ZL1 engine alone pushing the price of the Camaro ZL1 to an unbelieveable $7,200 (about double the price for a SS396 Camaro). Chevy needed to build 50 to qualify the car for racing, and in the end built 69 Camaros and 2 Corvettes with the ZL-1 engine. Their high price made them difficult to sell and at least 12 engines were removed and about 30 cars were returned back to Chevrolet. It took until the early 1970s to sell them all. One can only wonder what they are worth today.
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But the LZ1 was never installed in a Chevelle from the factory. So even if he had a LZ1 engine (doubtful) it would not be STOCK.

 
"To the best of MY knowledge, Chevy never made a engine that would do 475 off the lot. "

ZL1.

"While advertised highly underrated at 430 hp, the all-aluminum 427 actually produced 600 horsepower at a towering 6600 rpm. This today is still the most powerful engine ever offered in a North American car."

I've heard that the reason the official rating was 5hp lower than the the other 427 offered in the Vette was to avoid attracting attention of upper management who would have killed it. The 600HP is not an exaggeration, it was/is a monster motor.

source of quote
 
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
"And I call B.S. on the 475 HP STOCK motor as well! "

It's not far off. LS6 was rated at 450hp.
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25 horses is 25 horses.

To the best of MY knowledge, Chevy never made a engine that would do 475 off the lot.

However.

Overshadowing these dealer modified Camaros was the factory Camaro ZL1. Specially designed to compete in the NHRA Super Stock drag classes, Chevrolet made it an option under the COPO system (code 9560). The cars began as SS396/375bhp Camaros with the F41 suspension. The SS trim and engine were deleted, and the 427 engine, cowl-induction hood, front disc brakes, a choice of heavy duty 4 speed transmissions or Turbo Hydra-matic, and a 4:10 posi axle were added. But instead of the regular iron-block and head L72 found in the dealer installed Camaros, the ZL1 sported aluminum heads and the first aluminum block ever made by Chevrolet. It shared the L88 aluminum head/iron block's engine rating of 430 bhp but made closer to 500 bhp -- making it probably the most powerful engine Chevrolet ever offered to the public. And the engine weighed just 500 pounds, the same as Chevy's 327 small block. The car was blessed with a 5 year/50,000 mile warranty and was fully street legal. With factory exhausts and tires, it turned low 13s; with headers and slicks, it could turn 11.6s @ 122mph. This was the fastest car ever produced by Chevrolet. Performance had its price -- $4,160 for the ZL1 engine alone pushing the price of the Camaro ZL1 to an unbelieveable $7,200 (about double the price for a SS396 Camaro). Chevy needed to build 50 to qualify the car for racing, and in the end built 69 Camaros and 2 Corvettes with the ZL-1 engine. Their high price made them difficult to sell and at least 12 engines were removed and about 30 cars were returned back to Chevrolet. It took until the early 1970s to sell them all. One can only wonder what they are worth today.
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But the LZ1 was never installed in a Chevelle from the factory. So even if he had a LZ1 engine (doubtful) it would not be STOCK.
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Oh man, this makes me drool. Hands down my favorite dream car of all time. I have only seen one in person. Sits inside a showroom with a cover on it. Guy who owns it says he starts it once and a while to keep things running but other than that it just sits. Still has the original tires on it.
 
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: ElFenix
he could be running avgas. that stuff is so volatile that if you pour some out of a vial on a warm day it will evaporate before it hits the ground.
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You have that backwards. Avgas is LESS volatile than regular gas, so it evaporates SLOWER. Try it sometime, and you'll see. That's why it's hard to start race cars in cold weather....the gas is harder to ignite.
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i've seen it happen. pulled straight from the fuel tank of a cessna.

 
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