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9 dead, 9 wounded, shooter killed at Oregon community college

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Gonad the Barbarian

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http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/01/us/oregon-college-shooting/index.html

Edit: Body count updated. 🙁
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/01/us-usa-shooting-oregon-idUSKCN0RV5EP20151001

Edit 2: Number keeps changing, leaving it there until finalized.

Edit: 3:
A gunman opened fire on Thursday at a community college in Oregon, killing 13 people and wounding some 20 others, in the latest mass killing to rock a U.S. school, officials and local media said.

There were conflicting reports on the number of casualties and wounded at Umpqua Community College. The state's attorney general told the local NBC affiliate that 13 people had been slain, 20 wounded and the shooter was killed.

The suspect was not identified but CNN reported it was a man in his late 20s.
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Edit 4: I assume the numbers are now final. Names of those killed:

●Lucero Alcaraz, 19, of Roseburg

●Quinn Glen Cooper, 18, of Roseburg

●Kim Saltmarsh Dietz, 59, of Roseburg

●Lucas Eibel, 18, of Roseburg

●Jason Dale Johnson, 33, of Winston

●Lawrence Levine, 67, of Glide, a teacher

●Sarena Dawn Moore, 44, of Myrtle Creek

●Treven Taylor Anspach, 20, of Sutherlin

●Rebecka Ann Carnes, 18, of Myrtle Creek

RIP
 
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Nothing could have prevented this. If it wasn't a gun, he would have killed and wounded dozens of people with a knife.
 
Bring out the gun grabbers. Guns for none and anti psychotics for all!

senseamp said:
Nothing could have prevented this. If it wasn't a gun, he would have killed and wounded dozens of people with a knife.
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Naw, that's what SUVs are for. Ever read Mr Mercedes?
 
sm625 said:
Bring out the gun grabbers. Guns for none and anti psychotics for all!



Naw, that's what SUVs are for. Ever read Mr Mercedes?
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Yep, almost certainly the next deliberate mass killing will be by a car. It happens just as often as shootings, so next one will be vehicular for sure.
 
senseamp said:
Nothing could have prevented this. If it wasn't a gun, he would have killed and wounded dozens of people with a knife.
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Hopefully people hold the media responsible for their role:
For years, forensic psychiatrists have been urging American journalists to reform the way they report on these incidents. In a 2009 BBC interview, perhaps the best known among those psychiatrists, Dr. Park Dietz, said: “We’ve had 20 years of mass murders throughout which I have repeatedly told CNN and our other media, if you don’t want to propagate more mass murders, don’t start the story with sirens blaring. Don’t have photographs of the killer. Don’t make this 24/7 coverage. Do everything you can not to make the body count the lead story, not to make the killer some kind of anti-hero. Do localize the story to the affected community and make it as boring as possible in every other market. Because every time we have intense saturation coverage of a mass murder, we expect to see one or two more within a week.”
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http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/does-media-coverage-of-school-shootings-lead-to-more-school-shootings/Content?oid=20329038

Researchers at Texas State University have found many of the shooters are partially motivated by fame and have looked to past shooters for inspiration.

Now the FBI is encouraging media organizations to rethink the way they cover these stories by not focusing as much attention on the shooters. They call it the "Don't Name Them" campaign.
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http://www.ksat.com/news/fbi-to-media-dont-name-mass-shooters

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esearchers gathered records of school shootings and mass killings from several data sets and fit them into a mathematical "contagion model." The spread they found was not dependent on location, leading researchers to believe that national media coverage of a mass shooting might play a role. On average, mass shootings occur about once every two weeks in the United States and school shootings happen about once a month, the study said.

"What we believe may be happening is national news media attention is like a 'vector' that reaches people who are vulnerable," said Sherry Towers, a research professor at Arizona State University and lead author of the study.
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/02/health/contagious-mass-killings-study/

A 1999 study by Dr. Mullen and others in the Archives of Suicide Research suggested that a 10-year outbreak of mass homicides had occurred in clusters rather than randomly. This effect was also found in a 2002 study by a group of German psychiatrists who examined 132 attempted rampage killings world-wide. There is a growing consensus among researchers that, whether or not the perpetrators are fully aware of it, they are following what has become a ready-made, free-floating template for young men to resolve their rage and express their sense of personal grandiosity.

Whatever the witch's brew of influences that produced this grisly script, treating mass killings as a kind of epidemic or contagion largely frees us from having to understand the particular causes of each act. Instead, we can focus on disrupting the spread.

There is a precedent for this approach in dealing with another form of violence: suicides. A 2003 study led by Columbia University psychiatrist Madelyn Gould found "ample evidence" of a suicide contagion effect, fed by reports in the media. A 2011 study in the journal BMC Public Health found, unsurprisingly, that this effect is especially strong for novel forms of suicide that receive outsize attention in the press.

Some researchers have even put the theory to the test. In 1984, a rash of suicides broke out on the subway system in Vienna. As the death toll climbed, a group of researchers at the Austrian Association for Suicide Prevention theorized that sensational reporting was inadvertently glorifying the suicides. Three years into the epidemic, the researchers persuaded local media to change their coverage by minimizing details and photos, avoiding romantic language and simplistic explanations of motives, moving the stories from the front page and keeping the word "suicide" out of the headlines. Subway suicides promptly dropped by 75%.
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http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303309504579181702252120052

But far be it for us to follow the advice of experts - got to get those ratings!
 
 
Exterous said:
Hopefully people hold the media responsible for their role:

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/does-media-coverage-of-school-shootings-lead-to-more-school-shootings/Content?oid=20329038


http://www.ksat.com/news/fbi-to-media-dont-name-mass-shooters

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http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/02/health/contagious-mass-killings-study/


http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303309504579181702252120052

But far be it for us to follow the advice of experts - got to get those ratings!
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So in all the other countries where this kind of thing is a rarity, they don't cover mass shootings in the news?
 
Gonad the Barbarian said:
Do you have that shit saved to copy/paste? The media has every responsibility to report on active shootings and the immediate aftermath.
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Yes. And society must accept that reporting is going to mean more copy cats. Every time a shooter writes a note, or leaves a video, society wants to see it. There would be far less mass shootings if there was not the type of reporting done.

The media is just showing what we want. If we did not want all the little details, they would likely not show it. Shooters would thus not get fame and there would be less.
 
realibrad said:
Yes. And society must accept that reporting is going to mean more copy cats. Every time a shooter writes a note, or leaves a video, society wants to see it. There would be far less mass shootings if there was not the type of reporting done.

The media is just showing what we want. If we did not want all the little details, they would likely not show it. Shooters would thus not get fame and there would be less.
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Spare me the bullshit. You types just want the media not to cover these because it makes assholes with guns look bad.
 
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