Originally posted by: wisedesi
Hello,
Rebate form says "Item must be purchased instore only, not valid on website purchase".
Does ordering online and selecting instore pickup will be website purchase?
Originally posted by: Oicur12
Originally posted by: wisedesi
Hello,
Rebate form says "Item must be purchased instore only, not valid on website purchase".
Does ordering online and selecting instore pickup will be website purchase?
The "Item must be purchased in-store only, not valid on website purchase" clause is only for purchases made in either Alaska or Hawaii. Or at least that is how the form read to me. Those two states have different dates of purchase as well so I don't think it applies to purchases made in the continental US.
Originally posted by: Lanyap
Nice deal. Just a heads up, I was reading over at B$ and FW that this is the same UPS on sale BF and that lots of people were complaining that it hums very loud. Guess I'll have to get one and see for myself.
colossus said:Don't mean to threadcrap, but wasn't this the same APC unit BB had on sale last BF? That stupid thing buzzed like crazy and 1/2 the people here returned it. Unless APC put out some revised units this unit may not be worth $10.
More info...
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/messageview.php?catid=18&threadid=399537
Originally posted by: isekii
If you just go to the store
they have it as 99.99 - 30 instant rebate - 50 mail in rebate.
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: isekii
If you just go to the store
they have it as 99.99 - 30 instant rebate - 50 mail in rebate.
Right, that's what I figure now. I see the ad on the back of the insert in yesterday's S.F. Chronicle.
Can I ask a question or two? How exactly does this work? Why is there a USB cable included? There's a separate surge protector from the UPS?
Why might I want a UPS? This thing gives you maybe 5-10 minutes to shut down your system after a blackout, right? So you avoid what might have been data loss if your system had simply had the plug pulled (i.e. if you didn't have this UPS and the power went out suddenly). But if you don't have unsaved data and you are running a reasonably advanced OS like Windows 2000, what difference would it make? I'm in the habit of saving to disk whenever I think I have info in RAM that I don't want to lose, so what would be the advantage for me? I already have my computer components plugged into a fairly decent surge protector. Thanks for any explanations, insights, etc.
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: isekii
If you just go to the store
they have it as 99.99 - 30 instant rebate - 50 mail in rebate.
Right, that's what I figure now. I see the ad on the back of the insert in yesterday's S.F. Chronicle.
Can I ask a question or two? How exactly does this work? Why is there a USB cable included? There's a separate surge protector from the UPS?
Why might I want a UPS? This thing gives you maybe 5-10 minutes to shut down your system after a blackout, right? So you avoid what might have been data loss if your system had simply had the plug pulled (i.e. if you didn't have this UPS and the power went out suddenly). But if you don't have unsaved data and you are running a reasonably advanced OS like Windows 2000, what difference would it make? I'm in the habit of saving to disk whenever I think I have info in RAM that I don't want to lose, so what would be the advantage for me? I already have my computer components plugged into a fairly decent surge protector. Thanks for any explanations, insights, etc.
The usb cable connects from the UPS to the computer.
if lets say the power goes out. APC kicks in
shuts down your computer via software.
Originally posted by: Muse
Why might I want a UPS? This thing gives you maybe 5-10 minutes to shut down your system after a blackout, right? So you avoid what might have been data loss if your system had simply had the plug pulled (i.e. if you didn't have this UPS and the power went out suddenly). But if you don't have unsaved data and you are running a reasonably advanced OS like Windows 2000, what difference would it make? I'm in the habit of saving to disk whenever I think I have info in RAM that I don't want to lose, so what would be the advantage for me? I already have my computer components plugged into a fairly decent surge protector. Thanks for any explanations, insights, etc.
Thanks. I won't argue with those ideas. There could be some real merit to them. Myself, I'd never write 3 pages and do no saves. I do a save after every good idea!Originally posted by: wallsfd949
Originally posted by: Muse
Why might I want a UPS? This thing gives you maybe 5-10 minutes to shut down your system after a blackout, right? So you avoid what might have been data loss if your system had simply had the plug pulled (i.e. if you didn't have this UPS and the power went out suddenly). But if you don't have unsaved data and you are running a reasonably advanced OS like Windows 2000, what difference would it make? I'm in the habit of saving to disk whenever I think I have info in RAM that I don't want to lose, so what would be the advantage for me? I already have my computer components plugged into a fairly decent surge protector. Thanks for any explanations, insights, etc.
My philosophy is, you never can be too safe. If what you do is absolutely meaningless and you don't mind the possibility of having to reinstall your OS, I guess you don't need one. I don't use my PC for anything mission critical, but for $9.99 if I can avoid loosing the video project I was working on or the 3 page letter or report I was typing, It's worth it.
Thanks OP, picked one up to add to my collection (4). You never can have too many at that price.
[edit]I'm not sure how good a sudden power loss is to components. It may not matter, but if my hard disk is mid-write, it could have potential consequences.
Originally posted by: Muse
Thanks. I won't argue with those ideas. There could be some real merit to them. Myself, I'd never write 3 pages and do no saves. I do a save after every good idea!Originally posted by: wallsfd949
Originally posted by: Muse
Why might I want a UPS? This thing gives you maybe 5-10 minutes to shut down your system after a blackout, right? So you avoid what might have been data loss if your system had simply had the plug pulled (i.e. if you didn't have this UPS and the power went out suddenly). But if you don't have unsaved data and you are running a reasonably advanced OS like Windows 2000, what difference would it make? I'm in the habit of saving to disk whenever I think I have info in RAM that I don't want to lose, so what would be the advantage for me? I already have my computer components plugged into a fairly decent surge protector. Thanks for any explanations, insights, etc.
My philosophy is, you never can be too safe. If what you do is absolutely meaningless and you don't mind the possibility of having to reinstall your OS, I guess you don't need one. I don't use my PC for anything mission critical, but for $9.99 if I can avoid loosing the video project I was working on or the 3 page letter or report I was typing, It's worth it.
Thanks OP, picked one up to add to my collection (4). You never can have too many at that price.
[edit]I'm not sure how good a sudden power loss is to components. It may not matter, but if my hard disk is mid-write, it could have potential consequences.
What I do is NOT meaningless. Maybe I'll see if I can pick one up tomorrow. I did get a mouse from them on special a few months ago and called to make sure they had them. I can do the same tomorrow.
I'm wondering what this will cost me besides the money, time and trouble to set it up. This thing has a battery in it, right? What kind is it, how long will it last and what is the feasibility of replacing it and at what cost?
What's a "decent" price?they come with a 2 year warranty.
2 years for under 15 bucks is well worth it.
Battery shouldn't be too expensive for these.
You can find a bunch on ebay for a decent price.
Originally posted by: Muse
Thanks. I won't argue with those ideas. There could be some real merit to them. Myself, I'd never write 3 pages and do no saves. I do a save after every good idea!
What I do is NOT meaningless. Maybe I'll see if I can pick one up tomorrow. I did get a mouse from them on special a few months ago and called to make sure they had them. I can do the same tomorrow.
I'm wondering what this will cost me besides the money, time and trouble to set it up. This thing has a battery in it, right? What kind is it, how long will it last and what is the feasibility of replacing it and at what cost?
OK, I got an A in statistics and I know that the odds of my experiencing a power failure in my lifetime while flashing a mainboard BIOS are in the neighborhood of 10,000:1, and that's probably generous. Then, to justify buying a UPS on that basis, if I assume $5 worth of the UPS goes toward insuring my mainboard, I better have a $50,000 mainboard to justify it.Originally posted by: Navid
Originally posted by: Muse
Thanks. I won't argue with those ideas. There could be some real merit to them. Myself, I'd never write 3 pages and do no saves. I do a save after every good idea!
What I do is NOT meaningless. Maybe I'll see if I can pick one up tomorrow. I did get a mouse from them on special a few months ago and called to make sure they had them. I can do the same tomorrow.
I'm wondering what this will cost me besides the money, time and trouble to set it up. This thing has a battery in it, right? What kind is it, how long will it last and what is the feasibility of replacing it and at what cost?
Yes, it has a battery.
It lasts a few years. You can replace it. But, with the prices this low, you can pick up a new UPS.
The UPS is not there to make sure that you do not lose an unsaved file. In fact, you can still lose data if you do not manually save the file.
The UPS is there to make sure that your PC never sees a line voltage lower than like 90V.
If you have a brown out (low line voltage but not zero) without a UPS, your PC can be damaged.
Another time a UPS is a must is when you flash your motherboard BIOS. If you lose power in the middle of the process, you may end up with a very expensive door-stop or plant stand!
Basically, if you have a UPS and you set it up right, you guarantee that when you are running a critical task (like flashing the BIOS), it will be finished no matter what, and if you lose power, your PC will be turned off gracefully.