9/11 trial to be moved out of New York

[woolfe9999]

Looks like it will be a civilian trial, but held on a military base somewhere where security will not be an issue. I think this is the right move.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35132816/ns/us_news-security

- wolf

 

[EXman]

wow musta got the memo that it was a freaking retarded idea.

 

[Patranus]

Must have looked at some polls.

Looks like it will be a civilian trial, but held on a military base somewhere where security will not be an issue.

Like GITMO?
(LOL)

 

[Caesar]

I agree with this!

 

[woolfe9999]

Must have looked at some polls.



Like GITMO?
(LOL)

Polls, yes, and the fact that some prominent dems were joining repubs in opposing it being venued in NY.

- wolf

 

[EXman]

Polls, yes, and the fact that some prominent dems were joining repubs in opposing it being venued in NY.

- wolf

Why are Terrorists that are not citizens getting extra rights? If they'd spend more of their time on how to get more bad guys as they do on the ones that were locked up I'd bet we'd have more of them isn't that the point. Crap I guess it isn't. what is the point off catching these bastards anyhow if we just give them a vacation to Bahamas?

 

[Double Trouble]

Holder was insane to ever even propose putting these guys on trial in the middle of new york. Guess they read the political tealeaves and figured out it was going to end badly, giving the repubs yet another thing to bash them with later on....

 

[nick1985]

I can buy a bullet for 50 cents and save the taxpayers a LOT of money.

 

[Double Trouble]

I can buy a bullet for 50 cents and save the taxpayers a LOT of money.

Yeah, except for that whole "due process" business

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for putting a bullet between the eyes of these killers, but they need to be proven guilty of the crime first.

 

[nick1985]

Yeah, except for that whole "due process" business

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for putting a bullet between the eyes of these killers, but they need to be proven guilty of the crime first.

They could do that for a whole lot less than 200 mil

 

[lsd]

Holder was insane to ever even propose putting these guys on trial in the middle of new york. Guess they read the political tealeaves and figured out it was going to end badly, giving the repubs yet another thing to bash them with later on....

But yet it was okay for Ramzi Yousef to be tried in nyc?
Stupid ass republicans.

 

[EXman]

But yet it was okay for Ramzi Yousef to be tried in nyc?
Stupid ass republicans.

Sure it wasn't but that was under the clinton watch in 1997.

 

[Double Trouble]

But yet it was okay for Ramzi Yousef to be tried in nyc?
Stupid ass republicans.

Stupid ass morons who make asses out of themselves by making incorrect ASSumptions about the political affiliations of others.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

I really don't understand why the whole New York trial thing is such an issue. Nothing about holding a trial there would allow or disallow additional terror attacks (like terrorists need a trial of one of their own to randomly blow shit up, itz da rulez), all the while resolving the douchebag's terror case in the heart of America's city. Poetic justice.

 

[Jhhnn]

This fits with the whole idea of a fair trial and judicial precedent. The defense would undoubtedly seek and receive a change of venue, citing inflamed passions in NYC. They'd be right.

It'll probably save time, effort and money in the long run. Planning and setting up elaborate security in NYC makes no sense given the inevitability of moving the trial, anyway.

Revenge is a dish best served cold- so is Justice.

 

[Moonbeam]

I really don't understand why the whole New York trial thing is such an issue. Nothing about holding a trial there would allow or disallow additional terror attacks (like terrorists need a trial of one of their own to randomly blow shit up, itz da rulez), all the while resolving the douchebag's terror case in the heart of America's city. Poetic justice.

Any issue were terrorism can be used to terrorize the American people into voting Republican will be used by Republicans to their advantage, regardless of the fact that it destroys, little by little, the morality and ethical foundation of the Constitution. Republicans are filth.

 

[woolfe9999]

Why are Terrorists that are not citizens getting extra rights? If they'd spend more of their time on how to get more bad guys as they do on the ones that were locked up I'd bet we'd have more of them isn't that the point. Crap I guess it isn't. what is the point off catching these bastards anyhow if we just give them a vacation to Bahamas?

Dunno, why did Bush try about 190 terrorist cases in civilian court? And why I am hearing these sorts of questions being asked for the first time since Obama came into office?

- wolf

 

[woolfe9999]

I really don't understand why the whole New York trial thing is such an issue. Nothing about holding a trial there would allow or disallow additional terror attacks (like terrorists need a trial of one of their own to randomly blow shit up, itz da rulez), all the while resolving the douchebag's terror case in the heart of America's city. Poetic justice.

Probably because the trial had a projected cost of some $200 million dollars, and most of that was security cost. If you hold the trial in a secure area like a military base, the security is already there and there isn't much added cost.

- wolf

 

[nick1985]

Must have looked at some polls.

pretty much

 

[Dari]

Why are these terrorists still alive? Just kill them. We're in a recession. Feed them to some animal. Far more efficient and cheaper than bullets. We can use the bones as harpoons for something else.

 

[Moonbeam]

Why are these terrorists still alive? Just kill them. We're in a recession. Feed them to some animal. Far more efficient and cheaper than bullets. We can use the bones as harpoons for something else.

Thanks for volunteering to eat them.

 

[Jhhnn]

Why are Terrorists that are not citizens getting extra rights? If they'd spend more of their time on how to get more bad guys as they do on the ones that were locked up I'd bet we'd have more of them isn't that the point. Crap I guess it isn't. what is the point off catching these bastards anyhow if we just give them a vacation to Bahamas?

Nice rant. Looks like some rightwing commentator has been stroking your erroneous zones, again.

These defendants have the same rights as anybody, foreign or domestic, who's been accused of a crime. It's the way we've done things for 200 years. They are "the accused"- find that term in the Constitution, apply it to the situation at hand.

Something that the Bushistas ignored, and that is detrimental to the whole process of Justice, is that our govt has to seek Justice Pro Forma, by the book. Make their case in an open court of law, follow the rules set out by the people and the framers of the Constitution. Anything less defeats the purpose.

To be very honest, I find it quite weird and very contradictory that people who have a healthy suspicion of govt, even contempt for it, can suddenly flip-flop on the head of a pin when it comes to anybody the govt accuses of terrorism...

 

[Hacp]

Why are these terrorists still alive? Just kill them. We're in a recession. Feed them to some animal. Far more efficient and cheaper than bullets. We can use the bones as harpoons for something else.

Wow, I couldn't have stated it any better.

 

[Dari]

Thanks for volunteering to eat them.

Thanks for that sassy, wise-ass witty comeback. You're like the Eddie Murphy of ATPN.

 

[Moonbeam]

Wow, I couldn't have stated it any better.

Don't be so modest. I am sure you could if you put in a slight effort. I have read your stuff and you're a far bigger idiot than Dari.