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bryanW1995

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Originally posted by: darkfalz
Power consumption was the main thing I was interested in. This will be my new card, only question is if it goes in my current system, or if I put together a new Penryn based one instead... do I really need another computer, not really, but do I want one...hehe...

You've already built it in your head...even though logic tells you to wait until nehalem...when you can buy 4-4-4-12 ddr2 800 for $55 AR at newegg and get a Q9450 for $316 in 2 mos, how can you resist?

oh, yeah, ip 35 pro is now $150 or you can get ip 35 e for $70 AR if you don't want to OC quite as much. decisions, decisions


(feeble attempt to go back on topic) uh, yeah, um, n7, you paid $620 for a gtx???

 

JBT

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Man this is killing me. I sold off my x1900XT and currently have a POS x300 in its place... I don't know if I can hold out till the 19th to see the the new GTS or 3870.... ahhh this card is so tempting...
 

Ackmed

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Originally posted by: JBT
Man this is killing me. I sold off my x1900XT and currently have a POS x300 in its place... I don't know if I can hold out till the 19th to see the the new GTS or 3870.... ahhh this card is so tempting...

I hear you. Im still on a 1900XT. Ive never had a card this long, ever. Or a CPU/motherboard for that matter. My PC is virtually the same as it was 1.5 years ago, even slower because I sold my CF X1900XT. But after being away from home for 7 months... didnt have much of an opportunity to upgrade. There are several games I would like to play, and this card is just not going to cut it. The $250 price tag does look nice, but then Im not sure I want to pay that. Im going back overseas to Iraq starting in May.. be gone for 13 months. So I could wait and suffer with this card, and build a monster PC when I get back. Games would be cheaper, patched, and better overall.

Then again.. I just spent $320 on a new tattoo.. could have gone towards a video card. Ugh, to wait, or not to wait. I really, really hate to lower settings, and especially my res to play a game.
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: Rusin
Originally posted by: RS8
Omg I had the chance to pick up the GT today but the dude sold his last one. Canadian pricing = 250$ for the 512mb version. Very nice!

Weren't HD2900 PRO's like 300 CAD there?
The Canadian dollar has risen 21% in 2007 so it's tough to discuss pricing in $CDN lately. :light:
 

bryanW1995

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May 22, 2007
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May is what... 7 mos away? These new cards look to be so cheap that you probably won't lose too much if you get one now and then sell it when you go back to iraq. In fact, you should probably sell your whole system when you leave b/c you'll get a lot more for it in may 08 than in june 09. You could even get cute and buy a cd with the money that you get from selling the components...
 

cmdrdredd

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Dec 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Matt2
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Creig
Originally posted by: HigherGround
$249 ... holy mother of God :shocked:

Unless AMD magically pulls a rabbit out of their hat with the 3800 series, I think I know which card I'm going to ask Mrs Santa to get me for Christmas.

Look at where the HD2900 is now, not far behind. Now, give it the AA performance boost and the rumored better performance across the board and there you have it. Faster than the 8800gt.

Now will it happen? I don't know but from the rumor mil around the net I would bet on yes right now.

plus DX10.1 whether that matters to you.

What are these performance boosts you speak of?

AMD hasn't delivered the last six months, but now they are saying it's going to happen?

I've been basking in Xbox 360 goodness and haven't been payiong attention to video cards. Enlighten me please.

The rumors say it is supposed to perform better than the HD2900xt because where you see the 2900 doing poorly is where they adjusted the new card.
 

cmdrdredd

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Dec 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: bryanW1995
Originally posted by: Rusin
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd


Look at where the HD2900 is now, not far behind. Now, give it the AA performance boost and the rumored better performance across the board and there you have it. Faster than the 8800gt.

Now will it happen? I don't know but from the rumor mil around the net I would bet on yes right now.

plus DX10.1 whether that matters to you.

Somehow I'll doubt that theire HD3850 will be much faster than HD2900XT. I mean that HD2900XT has TDP value of 215W when HD3850 has TDP value of 80W. It's already good job now that it looks like HD3850 would be equal to HD2900XT in performance.

Where would that performance boost come from? It's not like they are moving away from shader AA to ROP AA. It's not like they would be increasing amount of processing units. This RV670 is simpler than R600... R600 has over 700M transistors when this new chip has like 35-40 million less. And they are going to include to RV600 this UVD.

So where is this extra boost going to come?
he 3870 is the current rumor for the higher-end card at 825/2400. the tdp of hd3870 is supposed to be closer to 130W, in fact I think that it has a dual slot cooling solution. Combine that with 55nm and I think that we might be looking at an 8800gtx challenger.

Again where everyone sees the HD2900 perform poorly or less than ideal is when you use AA. The new card is supposed to fix this.
 

cmdrdredd

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Dec 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Rusin
Originally posted by: bryanW1995

So where is this extra boost going to come?
he 3870 is the current rumor for the higher-end card at 825/2400. the tdp of hd3870 is supposed to be closer to 130W, in fact I think that it has a dual slot cooling solution. Combine that with 55nm and I think that we might be looking at an 8800gtx challenger.
Hmm..

8800 GT 256MB vs. RV670GT
8800 GT 512MB vs. HD3850
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I don't think that HD 3870 will fight against current 8800 GTX..it should fight against new 8800 GTS 640MB. 8800 GT 512MB has TDP value of 110W when current 8800 GTS 640MB has TDP value which is 145W..which is 32% higher than GT's. I think that new 8800 GTS 640MB could (would) actually go higher than current 8800 GTX. This would scream for G92-8800 GTX. Some speculate that new 8800 GTX would be overclocked 8800 GTS (Like 7900 GT vs GTX).
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Here in Europe 8800 GT 512MB seems to be priced very low; on same level as HD2900 PRO or lower. In USA it seems that $250 will be typical price, but weren't HD3870 supposed to have that $250 price tag there?[/quote]

What the competitor will be depends on the performance not the price. Hell, if you could get similar performance for $200-$300 less who wouldn't buy it?
 

Skott

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Originally posted by: Xellos2099
I am debating as to what should I do. Currently, I am using a 7800gt and I am playing on a cardupgrade next month with the coming of game such as Gears of War and Crysis. I am wondering should I:

Buy a 8800gt 512mb for 250 on release day and sell my 7800gt for roughly a bit below 100 and be happy for a while

OR

Wait till new 8800gts and the new ATI card come out and decide which is best and jump the gun depend on the price and sell my 7800gt.

OR

Buy the EVGA 8800gt when it come out and keep my 7800gt as a backup and when January come and new high end come out, use the step up option and use my 7800gt during the 8800 downtime.


I'd say wait till those games come out, or at least till Crysis comes out, and then see how the benchmarks look. That should help you decide. Its not that far away at this point.
 

Polish3d

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Originally posted by: rmed64
So glad I never buy those $500 video cards when months later you can get better cards at half the price.

Well, months as in YEARS. Or year
 

CP5670

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Yeah, the people who got 8800s back when they were released got pretty good mileage out of them.

For the rest of us though, it finally looks like there is going to be stuff worth buying soon. I'm especially interested in that new GTS, which we haven't heard a lot about yet.
 

alcoholbob

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Sell it on ebay and pick up an 8800GT 512mb I would say... It's better on so many levels, pure performance, frame buffer size, cost...
 

bryanW1995

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May 22, 2007
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if you've already got an 8800gts 320 it depends on its perf for you. If it's running everything that you play at decent fps then why would you do anything with it? If it's not then sell it and buy something else.
 

MarcVenice

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Hmz, the only reason the 8800gt is being prices so competetively is because AMD/ATI is doing so. Those cards were supposed to cost more but Nvidia decided to lower the prices to fight ATI/AMD on their own level. For some reason it makes me sad to see a card that's probably going to cost 200 euro's, that easily outperforms my 8800gts 320mb. I only had this card for roughly 3 months, but I doubt I'll get more then 200euro's for it now...
 

Keysplayr

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So, my 8800GTS averages around 2-10 fps slower than the GT at stock clocks. I guess I can always o/c a little. I paid 349.00 for mine in April. Considering the 8800GT will cost about 250 or so, it cost me about 100 bucks to be able to game since April. Fair tradeoff. I wonder how the GT will o/c on 65nm. Single slot cooler, so we'll have to see. I would have rather seen a dual slot cooler even if it cost an extra 20 bucks to buy it.
 

Borealis7

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I would look at this card a little differently. Instead of considering how faster it is than a GTS, I would say that it isnt much slower than a GTX, and frankly, i think Nvidia is shooting themselves in the foot by releasing this card.

If I intended on buying a GTS before, now i can get a GT and have better results. If i won the lottery and intended on buying a GTX or Ultra, now i can get a much cheaper GT and O/C is a little to get roughly the same results, for 1/3 the price.

Perhaps Nvidia knows something we dont about HD 38XX performance and they are releasing this card at a very competitive price.

Either way, consumers win.
 

Creig

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
I would have rather seen a dual slot cooler even if it cost an extra 20 bucks to buy it.

Ditto. If I decide to get the 8800GT, I'll probably first look to see who offers a nice dual-slot cooler.
 

Keysplayr

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Well, either way, it still performs between a GTS640 and a GTX. Which is incredible for 250-ish bucks.

One thing I have noticed is the serious improvement of CPU utilization when viewing videos. Perhaps all 65nm versions of G80 will feature this improvement. I don't see why it wouldn't. So it's a little more than just a die shrink. Improvements have been made in this area.
 

beatle

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Apr 2, 2001
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Let's not forget what will happen to prices of the GTS and GTX cards. They will all drop relative to the GT. If the GT is faster than the GTS, it'll be more expensive. That doesn't mean it'll be more than $250, just that the GTS will come closer to the $200 mark, methinks.
 

nullpointerus

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Originally posted by: Borealis7
I would look at this card a little differently. Instead of considering how faster it is than a GTS, I would say that it isnt much slower than a GTX, and frankly, i think Nvidia is shooting themselves in the foot by releasing this card.

If I intended on buying a GTS before, now i can get a GT and have better results. If i won the lottery and intended on buying a GTX or Ultra, now i can get a much cheaper GT and O/C is a little to get roughly the same results, for 1/3 the price.

SLi?

Could we see a repeat of the 7900GT volt-modding period?