85 year old man crashed into my new car yesterday (pics)

[Amused]

Lucky, ignore the knee-jerk idiots. Reasonable compensation for pain and suffering is OK.

A person can sue for pain and suffering if the accident is due to negligence, not just malicious.

I'd say reasonable pain and suffering for your case is in the couple hundred a day range.

 

[imported_Phil]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
in britain its so simple, you crash, you get insurance details and then you file the claim to each insurance company, the police dont even need to be involved unless its a big crash. call a tow truck if needs be and then your off home or for a check up, and you just rest at home with a warm drink savouring the time off work (sick pay) then a week later your all better, less stressed you got your car back and everythings normal again.....what is so hard bout that?

It was slightly different for me when I had an accident two years ago- travelling down a regular town-sized road at about 5:30pm, headlights on, and someone pulled out across my path to turn right (or, my left I suppose). Totalled her Golf (and I mean totalled, I couldn't believe the amount of damage to her car at just 30mph - bonnet, tire burst, offside wing...), and the rental car I was in suffered a busted bumper and the alternator (which sits behind the bumper on that car) had to be cut free.

However, she would not admit liability for a whole freaking year, so the insurance company wouldn't pay out. In a different, previous accident (rear-ended at about 15mph), the guy's insurance company, again, wouldn't act until he declared the accident to them! :|

Having said all that, I did get some whiplash, and I let it go. People just don't sue much over here, we just get on with life

:beer: to a fellow hardy Brit.

 

[Stark]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: Stark
this can really screw up a car

i got into an accident where someone hit the front side of my car and it completely tweaked the frame. The car was never the same afterwards. It looks like the accident was pretty severe... the car went from going one direction to 90 degrees in another direction. I'd want pain and suffering also. I'm sure the old dude has insurance. If a company is willing to cover him, it should be ready to pay out when something like this happens.

if any of you remember the old guy in Santa Monica who killed a bunch of people for doing exactly what this old guy did, you might be a little less eager to jump to his defense.

driving is just as much a privledge for an 85 year old guy as it is for a 16 year old kid. if you can't do it well, you have no right to be on the road. If he's claiming that ice caused the wreck, it sounds like he's either in denial or suffering dementia. If he was my all-time favorite grandpa, I'd say the exact same thing.

OMG the air bag never even deployed....that was a hell of a crash!

or it could be that the left front fender doesn't have any sensors to set off an airbag. it wasn't a front impact collision or a direct side impact (on the door). OP probably would have been better off if he took a direct hit to the side and the side impact airbags deployed.

 

[psteng19]

Man, I was with you until the part where you asked how to get compensated for "pain and suffering".
:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

I do agree that old people should be retested though :thumbsup:


And btw, the tC is based on the Toyota Avensis.

 

[brigden]

If you're in so much pain and suffering, why are you posting on the Internet? I thought you were allegedly "doped up in bed."

YOU ARE SCUM.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
you want pain and suffering right well, jus get your ass over to any third world coutry and you see what real pain and suffering is, your in 10 star luxury compared to what people in places like iraq, africa and vietnam have to live with.

the fact that you wernt seriously injured should be compensation enough ...

Bullsh!t.

His life was fine until a driver negligently caused him injury. Now he has pain, which is NOT something he deserves. He should be reasonably compensated for having to live through that pain.

 

[sygyzy]

I am very surprised at the responses here because when it comes to accidents, I don't know of many cases where the person does not pursue extra charges. I personally wouldn't but all of you complaining here are saying if you had similar injuries/damage to your car you'd be fine getting paid for medical and your car and be on your merry way?

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Dopefiend

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
in britain its so simple, you crash, you get insurance details and then you file the claim to each insurance company, the police dont even need to be involved unless its a big crash. call a tow truck if needs be and then your off home or for a check up, and you just rest at home with a warm drink savouring the time off work (sick pay) then a week later your all better, less stressed you got your car back and everythings normal again.....what is so hard bout that?

It was slightly different for me when I had an accident two years ago- travelling down a regular town-sized road at about 5:30pm, headlights on, and someone pulled out across my path to turn right (or, my left I suppose). Totalled her Golf (and I mean totalled, I couldn't believe the amount of damage to her car at just 30mph - bonnet, tire burst, offside wing...), and the rental car I was in suffered a busted bumper and the alternator (which sits behind the bumper on that car) had to be cut free.

However, she would not admit liability for a whole freaking year, so the insurance company wouldn't pay out. In a different, previous accident (rear-ended at about 15mph), the guy's insurance company, again, wouldn't act until he declared the accident to them! :|

Having said all that, I did get some whiplash, and I let it go. People just don't sue much over here, we just get on with life

:beer: to a fellow hardy Brit.

Brits are obviously more hardcore than alot of americans....for instance we dont need shoulder pads n helmets to play rugby. johnny wilkinson goes to my uni and hes a flippin beast of a man!

 

[Zebo]

The old man got his feet confused. He couldn't even walk on his own when he had to leave his car because "his feet were too stiff".

Prolly cause he was in shock worried about you guys with your melodramatics of dying and all. Did you get an ambulance?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: brigden
If you're in so much pain and suffering, why are you posting on the Internet? I thought you were allegedly "doped up in bed."

YOU ARE SCUM.

He is scum because he is asking for compensation for being made to suffer???

I can post on the Internet with massive pain. I've posted on the Internet after operations and on pain pills. That doesn't mean I wasn't in pain, or suffering.

Causing pain and suffering through negligence SHOULD be compensated for. No one should have to go through pain due to the negligence of another.

 

[Vic]

Nope, no ice here

 

[BigToque]

Lucky,

You will be covered for the repairs, your deductable, your medical expenses and lost wages.

If you REALLY need a rental car while your car is repaired (I don't know why you couldn't take the bus for a week), why don't you just talk to the guy before you go trying to get lawyers, courts or insurance companies involved.

If you talked to the guy and said "because of the accident, I will be without my car for a week while it's repaired. I would appreciate it if you would pay for a rental car for me while my car is getting fixed." A reasonable person will not have a problem with this.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
you want pain and suffering right well, jus get your ass over to any third world coutry and you see what real pain and suffering is, your in 10 star luxury compared to what people in places like iraq, africa and vietnam have to live with.

the fact that you wernt seriously injured should be compensation enough ...

Bullsh!t.

His life was fine until a driver negligently caused him injury. Now he has pain, which is NOT something he deserves. He should be reasonably compensated for having to live through that pain.

how about just dealing with it? his lifes fine now, his life will be totally fine next week

 

[Lucky]

Originally posted by: brigden
If you're in so much pain and suffering, why are you posting on the Internet? I thought you were allegedly "doped up in bed."

YOU ARE SCUM.

fvck off nitwit. I am in bed, posting from a laptop. Read the thread.

Heh. Like you would know anything about driving on ice living in LA. Judging from the pics, it's extremely obvious that the ice caused the accident.

I've told you what happened and what the police officer stated at the scene. I'd be happy to post the police report on Tuesday stating the ice was not responsible and have you apologize to me. Deal?

 

[psteng19]

Originally posted by: Zebo

The old man got his feet confused. He couldn't even walk on his own when he had to leave his car because "his feet were too stiff".

Prolly cause he was in shock worried about you guys with your melodramatics of dying and all. Did you get an ambulance?

Obviously from his post here, he called the waaaaaaaaahmbulance instead :laugh:

In all seriousness, the insurance company should/might contact you about "compensation" so you won't have to do anything.
But in this instance, seeing that you both are insured by the same company, you never know.

 

[Steve]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: Dopefiend

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
in britain its so simple, you crash, you get insurance details and then you file the claim to each insurance company, the police dont even need to be involved unless its a big crash. call a tow truck if needs be and then your off home or for a check up, and you just rest at home with a warm drink savouring the time off work (sick pay) then a week later your all better, less stressed you got your car back and everythings normal again.....what is so hard bout that?

It was slightly different for me when I had an accident two years ago- travelling down a regular town-sized road at about 5:30pm, headlights on, and someone pulled out across my path to turn right (or, my left I suppose). Totalled her Golf (and I mean totalled, I couldn't believe the amount of damage to her car at just 30mph - bonnet, tire burst, offside wing...), and the rental car I was in suffered a busted bumper and the alternator (which sits behind the bumper on that car) had to be cut free.

However, she would not admit liability for a whole freaking year, so the insurance company wouldn't pay out. In a different, previous accident (rear-ended at about 15mph), the guy's insurance company, again, wouldn't act until he declared the accident to them! :|

Having said all that, I did get some whiplash, and I let it go. People just don't sue much over here, we just get on with life

:beer: to a fellow hardy Brit.

Brits are obviously more hardcore than alot of americans....for instance we dont need shoulder pads n helmets to play rugby. johnny wilkinson goes to my uni and hes a flippin beast of a man!

I see how that's relevant! :roll:

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
you want pain and suffering right well, jus get your ass over to any third world coutry and you see what real pain and suffering is, your in 10 star luxury compared to what people in places like iraq, africa and vietnam have to live with.

the fact that you wernt seriously injured should be compensation enough ...

Bullsh!t.

His life was fine until a driver negligently caused him injury. Now he has pain, which is NOT something he deserves. He should be reasonably compensated for having to live through that pain.

BSx2 negligence has not been shown. so far it's an accident looks like ice to me. and prove he's in pain.

 

[Lucky]

Originally posted by: Stefan
Lucky,

You will be covered for the repairs, your deductable, your medical expenses and lost wages.

If you REALLY need a rental car while your car is repaired (I don't know why you couldn't take the bus for a week), why don't you just talk to the guy before you go trying to get lawyers, courts or insurance companies involved.

If you talked to the guy and said "because of the accident, I will be without my car for a week while it's repaired. I would appreciate it if you would pay for a rental car for me while my car is getting fixed." A reasonable person will not have a problem with this.

I drive my car while working. I cannot work without a car. I am scheduled to return to work sometime next week depending on what my doctor says.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
you want pain and suffering right well, jus get your ass over to any third world coutry and you see what real pain and suffering is, your in 10 star luxury compared to what people in places like iraq, africa and vietnam have to live with.

the fact that you wernt seriously injured should be compensation enough ...

Bullsh!t.

His life was fine until a driver negligently caused him injury. Now he has pain, which is NOT something he deserves. He should be reasonably compensated for having to live through that pain.

how about just dealing with it? his lifes fine now, his life will be totally fine next week

And until next week his quality of life will be severely diminished. He will, for all intents and purposes, lost a week of his life.

That deserves SOME reasonable compensation.

If it were me, the old man should think his lucky stars there is law, because I would want my pain and suffering compensation to be eye for an eye.

 

[Stark]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Stark
driving is just as much a privledge for an 85 year old guy as it is for a 16 year old kid. if you can't do it well, you have no right to be on the road. If he's claiming that ice caused the wreck, it sounds like he's either in denial or suffering dementia. If he was my all-time favorite grandpa, I'd say the exact same thing.

Heh. Like you would know anything about driving on ice living in LA. Judging from the pics, it's extremely obvious that the ice caused the accident.

where's the ice?

if you look a little at the drip marks going both ways up the street, it looks like plenty of cars made that turn without plowing into the snowbank directly ahead.

i may be a snow noob, but i worked up in the so. cal mountains for 2 winters and had plenty of fun driving in the white stuff. the old man has probably had 60-70 more years of experience driving in the snow than i do, and there's no way i would have hit lucky (on the far side of the street) coming out of that driveway because of a 3 foot patch of snow.

 

[Lucky]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
you want pain and suffering right well, jus get your ass over to any third world coutry and you see what real pain and suffering is, your in 10 star luxury compared to what people in places like iraq, africa and vietnam have to live with.

the fact that you wernt seriously injured should be compensation enough ...

Bullsh!t.

His life was fine until a driver negligently caused him injury. Now he has pain, which is NOT something he deserves. He should be reasonably compensated for having to live through that pain.

Thank you. I appreciate your response. I agree. I'm not looking to hit any sort of jackpot.

 

[luvya]

How about show us a picture of your so called "serious injury"? Otherwise, I call shen!

 

[imported_Phil]

Originally posted by: sm8000

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: Dopefiend

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
in britain its so simple, you crash, you get insurance details and then you file the claim to each insurance company, the police dont even need to be involved unless its a big crash. call a tow truck if needs be and then your off home or for a check up, and you just rest at home with a warm drink savouring the time off work (sick pay) then a week later your all better, less stressed you got your car back and everythings normal again.....what is so hard bout that?

It was slightly different for me when I had an accident two years ago- travelling down a regular town-sized road at about 5:30pm, headlights on, and someone pulled out across my path to turn right (or, my left I suppose). Totalled her Golf (and I mean totalled, I couldn't believe the amount of damage to her car at just 30mph - bonnet, tire burst, offside wing...), and the rental car I was in suffered a busted bumper and the alternator (which sits behind the bumper on that car) had to be cut free.

However, she would not admit liability for a whole freaking year, so the insurance company wouldn't pay out. In a different, previous accident (rear-ended at about 15mph), the guy's insurance company, again, wouldn't act until he declared the accident to them! :|

Having said all that, I did get some whiplash, and I let it go. People just don't sue much over here, we just get on with life

:beer: to a fellow hardy Brit.

Brits are obviously more hardcore than alot of americans....for instance we dont need shoulder pads n helmets to play rugby. johnny wilkinson goes to my uni and hes a flippin beast of a man!

I see how that's relevant! :roll:

Agreed, it's a little "out there"
Deviating off-topic just a little bit more, I think the reason that our rugby players look like they've been through hundreds of bar fights is because they don't wear padding

 

[Lucky]

Originally posted by: Vic
Nope, no ice here

there's not until the very end. Look again.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
you want pain and suffering right well, jus get your ass over to any third world coutry and you see what real pain and suffering is, your in 10 star luxury compared to what people in places like iraq, africa and vietnam have to live with.

the fact that you wernt seriously injured should be compensation enough ...

Bullsh!t.

His life was fine until a driver negligently caused him injury. Now he has pain, which is NOT something he deserves. He should be reasonably compensated for having to live through that pain.

BSx2 negligence has not been shown.

The old man was either going too fast for conditions, not paying attention, or incompetent. Any way you look at it, it was negligence.

so far it's an accident looks like ice to me.

There are no such things as "accidents." If someone's car hits a patch of ice and loses control, they were going too fast for conditions.

and prove he's in pain.

That's up to his doctor.