$819B stimulus bill passed. Your thoughts?

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genx87
I need to do more research on where the money is actually going. Somebody mentioned 30 billion for actual infrastructure projects. That would be a god damned travesty.

But it doesnt surprise me this could be nothing but a payback to groups who helped democrats and personal pork barrel projects. These people are politicians afterall.

That's 30 Billion more than the previous Administration gave. Hopefully it won't be used to build bridges to nowhere in Alalska.

If all they are going to do is spend 30 billion that can be found within our bloated federal budget. It only represents 1% more in spending. There is no need to add an 825 billion dollar deficit spending bill to the bottom line.

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genx87
I need to do more research on where the money is actually going. Somebody mentioned 30 billion for actual infrastructure projects. That would be a god damned travesty.

But it doesnt surprise me this could be nothing but a payback to groups who helped democrats and personal pork barrel projects. These people are politicians afterall.

That's 30 Billion more than the previous Administration gave. Hopefully it won't be used to build bridges to nowhere in Alalska.

If all they are going to do is spend 30 billion that can be found within our bloated federal budget. It only represents 1% more in spending. There is no need to add an 825 billion dollar deficit spending bill to the bottom line.

With interest it is actually over a trillion dollars and the single largest transfer of wealth to the Federal government in US history.

What really makes me nervous is Obama in his first week or so in office has managed to spend more money than Bush did in his first 4 years and Obama is just getting started! There will be no telling how huge our deficit will be by the end of this year alone, he is likely to dig us a hole we will never ever recover from.

 

[Aimster]

It's not Obama who spends more money. If it is approved to be spent then it is the fault of everyone.

 

[blurredvision]

The wikipedia article linked above says the following:

"Tax Cuts ($275 billion): Payroll tax cuts ($500 for each individual, $1000 for couples), $2500 tax credit for higher education, $7500 non-repayable tax credit for first time home buyers (for houses bought until July 1st)."

Just for me to understand the payroll tax cuts, is the $500/$1000 tax cut amount for a year's time? For example, if I'm going to have to pay $500 less in taxes every year, then I'll be getting a little less than $10 extra on my paycheck every week? Or, is this $500/$1000 amount going to be a one-time thing like Bush's plan last year?

I know it's a tax cut and not a stimulus check, but I figured I'd ask to try and understand it a bit better.

 

[0marTheZealot]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genx87
I need to do more research on where the money is actually going. Somebody mentioned 30 billion for actual infrastructure projects. That would be a god damned travesty.

But it doesnt surprise me this could be nothing but a payback to groups who helped democrats and personal pork barrel projects. These people are politicians afterall.

That's 30 Billion more than the previous Administration gave. Hopefully it won't be used to build bridges to nowhere in Alalska.

If all they are going to do is spend 30 billion that can be found within our bloated federal budget. It only represents 1% more in spending. There is no need to add an 825 billion dollar deficit spending bill to the bottom line.

With interest it is actually over a trillion dollars and the single largest transfer of wealth to the Federal government in US history.

What really makes me nervous is Obama in his first week or so in office has managed to spend more money than Bush did in his first 4 years and Obama is just getting started! There will be no telling how huge our deficit will be by the end of this year alone, he is likely to dig us a hole we will never ever recover from.

That's an outright lie. Bush ballooned the deficit by massive amounts with his tax cuts for the wealthy and the Iraqi War in his first term as President.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genx87
I need to do more research on where the money is actually going. Somebody mentioned 30 billion for actual infrastructure projects. That would be a god damned travesty.

But it doesnt surprise me this could be nothing but a payback to groups who helped democrats and personal pork barrel projects. These people are politicians afterall.

That's 30 Billion more than the previous Administration gave. Hopefully it won't be used to build bridges to nowhere in Alalska.

If all they are going to do is spend 30 billion that can be found within our bloated federal budget. It only represents 1% more in spending. There is no need to add an 825 billion dollar deficit spending bill to the bottom line.

With interest it is actually over a trillion dollars and the single largest transfer of wealth to the Federal government in US history.

What really makes me nervous is Obama in his first week or so in office has managed to spend more money than Bush did in his first 4 years and Obama is just getting started! There will be no telling how huge our deficit will be by the end of this year alone, he is likely to dig us a hole we will never ever recover from.

That's an outright lie. Bush ballooned the deficit by massive amounts with his tax cuts for the wealthy and the Iraqi War in his first term as President.

Of course it is. Bush did a true stunning job of fvcking the nation's finances over. The first president to sign off on a $2B AND a $3B budget, all within 8 years! Damn near DOUBLED the federal debt. I'd say that is pretty noteworthy. In Socio's world I can only presume that Bush ran a big surplus, but presuming in his world is difficult, because he doesn't live in the same one as most of us.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genx87
I need to do more research on where the money is actually going. Somebody mentioned 30 billion for actual infrastructure projects. That would be a god damned travesty.

But it doesnt surprise me this could be nothing but a payback to groups who helped democrats and personal pork barrel projects. These people are politicians afterall.

That's 30 Billion more than the previous Administration gave. Hopefully it won't be used to build bridges to nowhere in Alalska.

If all they are going to do is spend 30 billion that can be found within our bloated federal budget. It only represents 1% more in spending. There is no need to add an 825 billion dollar deficit spending bill to the bottom line.

With interest it is actually over a trillion dollars and the single largest transfer of wealth to the Federal government in US history.

What really makes me nervous is Obama in his first week or so in office has managed to spend more money than Bush did in his first 4 years and Obama is just getting started! There will be no telling how huge our deficit will be by the end of this year alone, he is likely to dig us a hole we will never ever recover from.

Yeah, some will say you are just being negative or partisan but haven't we heard for the last couple years about pouring/wasting money on Iraq and Afghanistan? This pork bill by BHO and his congressional minions puts the spending on ALL of Iraq and Afghanistan to shame - all in 1 bill!

 

[GTKeeper]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
From what little I have read this package seems to be a mess that will do little to help us today.

The VAST majority of the spending does not occur for a few years which makes no sense. I thought the idea was to jump start the economy now, not set up spending programs for the next 4-5 years.

The sad thing is that even if the package is a total failure the Democrats probably won't pay a political price for its failure. Increasing the debt of the country is not tangible enough for most voters.

Increasing debt is what people have been used to on a personal level and gov't level for about 8 years now. Savings are decreasing while gov't borrowing / spending is increasing. Its business as usual now.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genx87
I need to do more research on where the money is actually going. Somebody mentioned 30 billion for actual infrastructure projects. That would be a god damned travesty.

But it doesnt surprise me this could be nothing but a payback to groups who helped democrats and personal pork barrel projects. These people are politicians afterall.

That's 30 Billion more than the previous Administration gave. Hopefully it won't be used to build bridges to nowhere in Alalska.

If all they are going to do is spend 30 billion that can be found within our bloated federal budget. It only represents 1% more in spending. There is no need to add an 825 billion dollar deficit spending bill to the bottom line.

With interest it is actually over a trillion dollars and the single largest transfer of wealth to the Federal government in US history.

What really makes me nervous is Obama in his first week or so in office has managed to spend more money than Bush did in his first 4 years and Obama is just getting started! There will be no telling how huge our deficit will be by the end of this year alone, he is likely to dig us a hole we will never ever recover from.

That's an outright lie. Bush ballooned the deficit by massive amounts with his tax cuts for the wealthy and the Iraqi War in his first term as President.

Of course it is. Bush did a true stunning job of fvcking the nation's finances over. The first president to sign off on a $2B AND a $3B budget, all within 8 years! Damn near DOUBLED the federal debt. I'd say that is pretty noteworthy. In Socio's world I can only presume that Bush ran a big surplus, but presuming in his world is difficult, because he doesn't live in the same one as most of us.

So, if Bush was bad for irresponsible spending and/or tax cutting (and we all seem to agree on that), how are Obama's impending deficits any better?

I was excited to hear Obama speak as president-elect about the need to address pending entitlement funding issues and to return to fiscal sanity, but I haven't seen the action to match the rhetoric yet. He's just getting started, so maybe he'll push to close the budget gap once times get better, but this pork package isn't a positive step, IMHO.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Wow...very disappointing...I see that there were a few brave Democrats that saw this for what it is. Not a good start for Obama IMO.

 

[Carmen813]

I'm seeing a lot of criticism of the Dems bill because it contained little infrastructure spending, and plenty of people defending the republicans decision to vote against it. What I'm not seeing is anyone discussing how in fact the Republican bill contained 0 infrastructure spending, and instead consisted of the Republican staple to fixing every single world problem, which is tax cuts. Given the choice between the Bills, I'd go with the Dems. At least it will upgrade our health records system.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Tax cuts ($275 billion)
Education ($141.6 billion)
Infrastructure ($90 billion)
Health care ($112.1 billion)
Welfare/unemployment ($102 billion)
Energy investments ($58 billion)

The bill, if passed, requires all recipients of the funds provided by the act to publish a plan for using the funds, along with purpose, cost, rationale, net job creation, and contact information about the plan to Recovery.gov so that the public can review and comment. Inspectors General from each department or executive agency will then review, as appropriate, any concerns raised by the public.

Well, there are tax cuts.

What I like is that the overwhelming majority of funds are directed to state and (to a lesser extent) local gov'ts. Some folks have some very critical needs and the important thing is to get that money to them.

I wish there was a way in the bill to prioritize critical infrastructure projects, target them for funding and immediately initiate design work and engineering. The 'latest' jargon (which I hate) is 'shovel ready'.

We need to invest in the preliminary engineering necessary on critical infrastructure projects, identify them by priority and develop long term funding solutions.

At this stage I give it a B-

(I give the 'TARP' bailout a D and last year's tax rebates a C-)

Originally posted by: blurredvision
Just for me to understand the payroll tax cuts, is the $500/$1000 tax cut amount for a year's time? For example, if I'm going to have to pay $500 less in taxes every year, then I'll be getting a little less than $10 extra on my paycheck every week? Or, is this $500/$1000 amount going to be a one-time thing like Bush's plan last year?

I will guess it is a 'temporary permanent' rate reduction and not a 'rebate' like last year.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Carmen813
I'm seeing a lot of criticism of the Dems bill because it contained little infrastructure spending, and plenty of people defending the republicans decision to vote against it. What I'm not seeing is anyone discussing how in fact the Republican bill contained 0 infrastructure spending, and instead consisted of the Republican staple to fixing every single world problem, which is tax cuts. Given the choice between the Bills, I'd go with the Dems. At least it will upgrade our health records system.

What you seem to not be understanding is that this is supposed to be a STIMULUS bill - not just another spending bill. Damn near everything in the Dems bill is just spending - something that shouldn't be done under the guise of "stimulus". If you want an infrastructure bill - write one. If you want spending to upgrade the health records system - write it. But don't throw everything into one bloated bill and suggest it is "stimulus". Hell, even by BHO's advisor's own methods and measures the R bill would provide better "stimulus" and cost about half of the BHO/pelosi pork bill.

 

[Carmen813]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that building schools, roads, computer networks (for the health records), and new power technologies will create jobs. Crazy I know, but just because they are spending money on it doesn't mean this stuff magically pops out of thin air. If this really a debate about the "name" of the bill, then Republicans are a lot more petty than I thought.

The Republican and Democrat idea of what constitutes a "stimulus" bill are obviously different, they have different economic philosophies.

 

[Red Dawn]

Will somebody please point out the pork in this Bill? I see a lot of money going to address situations in need. Maybe I didn't look at it closely enough but just from looking at the breakdown in Wikipodia I didn't notice any special little expenditures for certain Reps pet projects. Doesn't mean they aren't there, I just didn't see them.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Carmen813
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that building schools, roads, computer networks (for the health records), and new power technologies will create jobs. Crazy I know, but just because they are spending money on it doesn't mean this stuff magically pops out of thin air. If this really a debate about the "name" of the bill, then Republicans are a lot more petty than I thought.

The Republican and Democrat idea of what constitutes a "stimulus" bill are obviously different, they have different economic philosophies.

Have you ever been part of any of these sorts of projects? (besides swinging a hammer, working a shovel/other end labor) These sorts of things take a very long amount of time to plan and design before a single ounce of soil is disturbed. First you have initial engineering to provide budget estimates, then you have budget approvals, design approvals, gov't agencies pre-approvals, THEN you have bid spec writing and letting. You wait a while for the bids to come in, then have to approve/pick one. Once those things are done - there is more engineering work, submittals, design reviews, etc. I can guarantee the above takes atleast 1 year if it's anything to do with or from the gov't. So I guess if by "stimulus" you mean atleast 1 year out for any "real" work or workers start moving then I don't know what to say because it's absurd to suggest it's "stimulus".

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genx87
I need to do more research on where the money is actually going. Somebody mentioned 30 billion for actual infrastructure projects. That would be a god damned travesty.

But it doesnt surprise me this could be nothing but a payback to groups who helped democrats and personal pork barrel projects. These people are politicians afterall.

That's 30 Billion more than the previous Administration gave. Hopefully it won't be used to build bridges to nowhere in Alalska.

If all they are going to do is spend 30 billion that can be found within our bloated federal budget. It only represents 1% more in spending. There is no need to add an 825 billion dollar deficit spending bill to the bottom line.

With interest it is actually over a trillion dollars and the single largest transfer of wealth to the Federal government in US history.

What really makes me nervous is Obama in his first week or so in office has managed to spend more money than Bush did in his first 4 years and Obama is just getting started! There will be no telling how huge our deficit will be by the end of this year alone, he is likely to dig us a hole we will never ever recover from.

That's an outright lie. Bush ballooned the deficit by massive amounts with his tax cuts for the wealthy and the Iraqi War in his first term as President.

Lie no, slight exaggeration perhaps;

When Bush took office in January of 2001 the deficit was at 5.7 trillion by September 2003 it hit 6.7 trillion. Obama took office in January 2009 the deficit was at 10.6 trillion by February 2009 it will be 11.6 trillion including interest.

So Obama will have spent as much money in one month as Bush did in almost three years. Easily more than Bush would have spent in four years had there not been 9/11, the resulting war on terror, and all the expenses surrounding it.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genx87
I need to do more research on where the money is actually going. Somebody mentioned 30 billion for actual infrastructure projects. That would be a god damned travesty.

But it doesnt surprise me this could be nothing but a payback to groups who helped democrats and personal pork barrel projects. These people are politicians afterall.

That's 30 Billion more than the previous Administration gave. Hopefully it won't be used to build bridges to nowhere in Alalska.

If all they are going to do is spend 30 billion that can be found within our bloated federal budget. It only represents 1% more in spending. There is no need to add an 825 billion dollar deficit spending bill to the bottom line.

With interest it is actually over a trillion dollars and the single largest transfer of wealth to the Federal government in US history.

What really makes me nervous is Obama in his first week or so in office has managed to spend more money than Bush did in his first 4 years and Obama is just getting started! There will be no telling how huge our deficit will be by the end of this year alone, he is likely to dig us a hole we will never ever recover from.

That's an outright lie. Bush ballooned the deficit by massive amounts with his tax cuts for the wealthy and the Iraqi War in his first term as President.

Lie no, slight exaggeration perhaps;

When Bush took office in January of 2001 the deficit was at 5.7 trillion by September 2003 it hit 6.7 trillion. Obama took office in January 2009 the deficit was at 10.6 trillion by February 2009 it will be 11.6 trillion including interest.

So Obama will have spent as much money in one month as Bush did in almost three years. Easily more than Bush would have spent in four years had there not been 9/11, the resulting war on terror, and all the expenses surrounding it.

Bush didn't inherit the mess that Obama did from his predecessor .

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Will somebody please point out the pork in this Bill? I see a lot of money going to address situations in need. Maybe I didn't look at it closely enough but just from looking at the breakdown in Wikipodia I didn't notice any special little expenditures for certain Reps pet projects. Doesn't mean they aren't there, I just didn't see them.

What we really want to see is how many of their lobbyists and special interest groups get lucrative contracts from this.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Will somebody please point out the pork in this Bill? I see a lot of money going to address situations in need. Maybe I didn't look at it closely enough but just from looking at the breakdown in Wikipodia I didn't notice any special little expenditures for certain Reps pet projects. Doesn't mean they aren't there, I just didn't see them.

What we really want to see is how many of their lobbyists and special interest groups get lucrative contracts from this.

Well if it approaches anywhere near the level of the last Administration I will be extremely disappointed.

 

[ccbadd]

Originally posted by: Carmen813
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that building schools, roads, computer networks (for the health records), and new power technologies will create jobs. Crazy I know, but just because they are spending money on it doesn't mean this stuff magically pops out of thin air. If this really a debate about the "name" of the bill, then Republicans are a lot more petty than I thought.

The Republican and Democrat idea of what constitutes a "stimulus" bill are obviously different, they have different economic philosophies.

The name on the bill represents what needs to be done, stimulate the economy. Instead this bill is a sham to get a lot of BS spending through. As far as infrastructure goes, major construction projects at a state or larger level take too much time. Infrastructure is not going to get the economy going, it takes to long. What does get it going is putting money in peoples hands so they can buy things.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: ccbadd

Originally posted by: Carmen813
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that building schools, roads, computer networks (for the health records), and new power technologies will create jobs. Crazy I know, but just because they are spending money on it doesn't mean this stuff magically pops out of thin air. If this really a debate about the "name" of the bill, then Republicans are a lot more petty than I thought.

The Republican and Democrat idea of what constitutes a "stimulus" bill are obviously different, they have different economic philosophies.

The name on the bill represents what needs to be done, stimulate the economy. Instead this bill is a sham to get a lot of BS spending through. As far as infrastructure goes, major construction projects at a state or larger level take too much time. Infrastructure is not going to get the economy going, it takes to long. What does get it going is putting money in peoples hands so they can buy things.

You actually think people will feel like spending their extra money on frivolous purchases when their jobs are in jeopardy?

To tell you the truth that extra $500/$1000 tax cut won't cause me to go out and buy a new TV or car. It will either go to pay bills or into savings for a rainy day because it looks like their are a lot of rainy days foretasted for the immediate future.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

First $300 billion or so

$44 million for construction, repair and improvements at US Department of Agriculture facilities
$209 million for work on deferred maintenance at Agricultural Research Service facilities
$245 million for maintaining and modernizing the IT system of the Farm Service Agency
$175 million to buy and restore floodplain easements for flood prevention
$50 million for "Watershed Rehabilitation"
$1.1 billion for rural community facilities direct loans
$2 billion for rural business and industry guaranteed loans
$2.7 billion for rural water and waste disposal direct loans
$22.1 billion for rural housing insurance fund loans
$2.8 billion for loans to spur rural broadband
$150 million for emergency food assistance
$50 million for regional economic development commissions
$1 billion for "Periodic Censuses and Programs"
$350 million for State Broadband Data and Development Grants
$1.8 billion for Rural Broadband Deployment Grants
$1 billion for Rural Wireless Deployment Grants
$650 million for Digital-to-Analog Converter Box Program
$100 million for "Scientific and Technical Research and Services" at the National Institute of Standards And Technology
$30 million for necessary expenses of the "Hollings Manufacturing Extension Partnership"
$300 million for a competitive construction grant program for research science buildings
$400 million for "habitat restoration and mitigation activities" at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
$600 million for "accelerating satellite development and acquisition"
$140 million for "climate data modeling"
$3 billion for state and local law enforcement grants
$1 billion for "Community Oriented Policing Services"
$250 million for "accelerating the development of the tier 1 set of Earth science climate research missions recommended by the National Academies Decadal Survey."
$50 million for repairs to NASA facilities from storm damage
$300 million for "Major Research Instrumentation program" (science)
$200 million for "academic research facilities modernization"
$100 million for "Education and Human Resources"
$400 million for "Major Research Equipment and Facilities Construction"
$4.5 billion to make military facilities more energy efficient
$1.5 billion for Army Operation and Maintenance fund
$624 million for Navy Operation and Maintenance
$128 million for Marine Corps Operation and Maintenance
$1.23 billion for Air Force Operation and Maintenance
$454 million to "Defense Health Program"
$110 million for Army Reserve Operation and Maintenance
$302 million for National Guard Operation and Maintenance
$29 million for Air National Guard Operation and Maintenance
$350 million for military energy research and development programs
$2 billion for Army Corps of Engineers "Construction"
$250 million for "Mississippi River and Tributaries"
$2.2 billion for Army Corps "Operation and Maintenance"
$25 million for an Army Corps "Regulatory Program"
$126 million for Interior Department "water reclamation and reuse projects"
$80 million for "rural water projects"
$18.5 billion for "Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy" research in the Department of Energy. That money includes:
$2 billion for development of advanced batteries
$800 million of that is for biomass research and $400 million for geothermal technologies
$1 billion in grants to "institutional entities for energy sustainability and efficiency"
$6.2 billion for the Weatherization Assistance Program
$3.5 billion for Energy Efficiency and Conservation Block Grants
$3.4 billion for state energy programs
$200 million for expenses to implement energy independence programs
$300 million for expenses to implement Energy efficient appliance rebate programs including the Energy Star program
$400 million for expenses to implement Alternative Fuel Vehicle and Infrastructure Grants to States and Local Governments
$1 billion for expenses necessary for advanced battery manufacturing
$4.5 billion to modernize the nation's electricity grid
$1 billion for the Advanced Battery Loan Guarantee Program
$2.4 billion to demonstrate "carbon capture and sequestration technologies"
$400 million for the Advanced Research Projects Agency (Science)
$500 million for "Defense Environmental Cleanup"
$1 billion for construction and repair of border facilities and land ports of entry
$6 billion for energy efficiency projects on government buildings
$600 million to buy and lease government plug-in and alternative fuel vehicles
$426 million in small business loans
$100 million for "non-intrusive detection technology to be deployed at sea ports of entry
$150 million for repair and construction at land border ports of entry
$500 million for explosive detection systems for aviation security
$150 million for alteration or removal of obstructive bridges
$200 million for FEMA Emergency Food and Shelter program
$325 million for Interior Department road, bridge and trail repair projects
$300 million for road and bridge work in Wildlife Refuges and Fish Hatcheries
$1.7 billion for "critical deferred maintenance" in the National Park System
$200 million to revitalize the National Mall in Washington, D.C.
$100 million for National Park Service Centennial Challenge programs
$200 million for repair of U.S. Geological Survey facilities
$500 million for repair and replacement of schools, jails, roads, bridges, housing and more for Bureau of Indian Affairs
$800 million for Superfund programs
$200 million for leaking underground storage tank cleanup
$8.4 billion in "State and Tribal Assistance Grants"
$650 million in "Capital Improvement and Maintenance" at the Agriculture Dept.
$850 million for "Wildland Fire Management"
$550 million for Indian Health facilities
$150 million for deferred maintenance at the Smithsonian museums
$50 million in grants to fund "arts projects and activities which preserve jobs in the non-profit arts sector threatened by declines in philanthropic and other support during the current economic downturn" through the National Endowment for the Arts
$1.2 billion in grants to states for youth summer jobs programs and other activities
$1 billion for states in dislocated worker employment and training activities
$500 million for the dislocated workers assistance national reserve
$80 million for the enforcement of worker protection laws and regulations related to infrastructure and unemployment insurance investments
$300 million for "construction, rehabilitation and acquisition of Job Corps Centers"
$250 million for public health centers
$1 billion for renovation and repair of health centers
$600 million for nurse, physician and dentist training
$462 million for renovation work at the Centers for Disease Control
$1.5 billion for "National Center for Research Resources"
$500 million for "Buildings and Facilities" at the National Institutes of Health in suburban Washington, D.C.
$700 million for "comparative effectiveness research" on prescription drugs
$1 billion for Low-Income Home Energy Assistance
$2 billion in Child Care and Development Block Grants for states
$1 billion for Head Start programs
$1.1 billion for Early Head Start programs
$100 million for Social Security research programs
$200 million for "Aging Services Programs"
$2 billion for "Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology"
$430 million for public health/social services emergency funds
$2.3 billion for the Centers for Disease Control for a variety of programs
$5.5 billion in targeted education grants
$5.5 billion in "education finance incentive grants"
$2 billion in "school improvement grants"
$13.6 billion for Individuals with Disabilities Education Act
$250 million for statewide education data systems
$14 billion for school modernization, renovation and repair
$160 million for AmeriCorps grants
$400 million for the construction and costs to establish a new "National Computer Center" for the Social Security Administration
$500 million to improve processing of disability and retirement claims
$920 million for Army housing and child development centers
$350 million for Navy and Marine Corps housing and child development centers
$280 million in Air Force housing and child development centers
$3.75 billion in military hospital and surgery center construction
$140 million in Army National Guard construction projects
$70 million in Air National Guard construction projects
$100 million in Army Reserve construction projects
$30 million in Navy Reserve construction projects
$60 million in Air Force Reserve construction projects
$950 million for VA Medical Facilities
$50 million for repairs for military cemeteries
$120 million for a backup information management facility for the State Department
$98 million for National Cybersecurity Initiative
$3 billion for "Grants-in-Aid for Airports"
$300 million for Indian Reservation roads
$300 million for Amtrak capital needs
$800 million for national railroad assets or infrastructure repairs, upgrades
$5.4 billion in federal transit grants
$2 billion in infrastructure development for subways and commuter railways
$5 billion for public housing capital
$1 billion in competitive housing grants
$2.5 billion for energy efficiency upgrades in public housing
$500 million in Native American Housing Block Grants
$4.1 billion to help communities deal with foreclosed homes
$1.5 billion in homeless prevention activities
$79 billion in education funds for states

http://www.readthestimulus.org/index.php?

 

[child of wonder]

So long as not one single m'fing dime goes to those greedy banks I'm a little more at peace with any "stimulus" bill but I'd still rather we find a way to pull out of this without borrowing or printing more money.

 

[theeedude]

Government spending IS stimulus. How the hell did you think we got out of the Great Depression?
When private sector is busy firing people, it's a good time for the government to hire them to build infrastructure, or do whatever else productive. Anything is better than paying those people unemployment to do nothing.