7950 GX2 coming in 2 weeks

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TanisHalfElven

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wow 1200 for quad sli. amazing. i expected quad sli for retail a 2000 bucks.
i still won't buy it but to those who do....more power to you. (and a better psu toooo ) lol

any my question is very simple. how the hell can anyone put 3rd party cooling on this.
 

josh6079

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Since it is really new, not even available for private sales, I think it will be a while before any aftermarket cooling becomes available. I don't know what kind of air cooling you could do with this, but I think your could possibly have a decent wc'ing setup. Although, heatpipes cand do wonderful things......
 

Extelleron

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The 7950 GX2, even for $600, is not THAT good of a deal. Clocked @ 500/1200, these things are SLOW, and even with 2 GPU's on there, it isn't going to be outperforming the X1900XTX by much, nor the 7900GTX. If they overclock REALLY well, especially the memory, it'll be a bargain, but if not, there's no reason not to get the better deal: 2x 7900GT for around $600 + volt mod = 2x 7900GTX.
 

Bobthelost

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Have i missed the point where it got sold @ $600 per dual card? The supply of this thing is going to make the 7800 GTX 512 look plentiful, even if RRP is $600 i can't belive it'll sell for that. My money is on it being closer to $1000 than to $600.
 

TanisHalfElven

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Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Originally posted by: fierydemise
Hey you guys just ignore Crusader, he's trolling he'll go away (hopefully) if you quit giving him attention

Rollo never went away, atleast until he was caught.

can someone tell what exactly happned to rollo. i mean one day he was here then i came back sometime later and saw no sign of him. what did happen. please tell me ?
 

josh6079

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Dual core 7 series Link

Another Dual core 7 series Link

I would have rather seen something like this emerge instead of a double decker build. Maybe even a samller some smaller GPU sizes like 80nm or 60nm would help with the surface area on a single pcb, allowing for better cooler (hence higher possible clocks from either factory and/or users.) However, shrinking the size is not an easy thing to do I imagine.

Seeing as how these are 7800's (and I know their prices are a little high right now because they are discontinuing them) I also expect that the prices will range from 600-1000. At least in that ball park anyway.
 

Ronin

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: munky
Well, if you cant beat 'em with 1 card, gotta try it with 2 cards... slapped together to have a faint resemblance of 1 card.

And use less power. And be more quiet. And run cooler. And have better performance.

Keep tryin, munky.
I'm fairly certain 2 7900 cores use much more power than a single X1900XT. Accordingly, the heat output is much higher, requiring either higher operating temps or louder noise output.

Already proven otherwise, actually. Lemme find a link for you.
 

Munky

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Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Originally posted by: Crusader
Originally posted by: fierydemise
Hey you guys just ignore Crusader, he's trolling he'll go away (hopefully) if you quit giving him attention

And let an ATI troll like yourself get away with spreading your propaganda? I dont think so.

He hasn't said anything pro ATI at all in this thread, wheres the propoganda?

Anyone who doesnt support the NV "crusade" is an Ati troll...
 

Cookie Monster

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Originally posted by: josh6079
Dual core 7 series Link

Another Dual core 7 series Link

I would have rather seen something like this emerge instead of a double decker build. Maybe even a samller some smaller GPU sizes like 80nm or 60nm would help with the surface area on a single pcb, allowing for better cooler (hence higher possible clocks from either factory and/or users.) However, shrinking the size is not an easy thing to do I imagine.

Seeing as how these are 7800's (and I know their prices are a little high right now because they are discontinuing them) I also expect that the prices will range from 600-1000. At least in that ball park anyway.

Your forgetting that those 7800GT dual cards were Asus's own design. They were building a limited quanityt design to draw in the hardcore enthusisasts. (im sure 2000 of them were made). Remember the 6800GT dual from Asus?

However the 7950GX2 is a new SKU from NV. Weve seen the 7950GX2s from MSI and Leadtek, and there will be probably more. These are going to be retail cards, not OEM.

The 7950GX2 uses mobile G71 cores, meaning they use lower power and have a lower heat output compared to your normal G71 while retaining all the pixel pipelines/VS/ROPS etc.


 

josh6079

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I know. I was saying I would have liked to see Nvidia come out with that sort of structure to their potential Quad SLI cards. The fact that they use less power means that they have a lower heat output. They are the same G71 cores, but lower clocked. The reason for this is because the cards would have gotten too hot at the normal operating frequencies of most other G71 cores because of the double-decker build. If they were to implement a 7950GX2 design like the Asus's 7800 boards I linked, I think cooling would be easier to do, making GPU/Mem frequencies higher or at least at the same standards as the other G71 cards, and thus bringing better performance. Who knows though, maybe Zalman, AC, DD, or Swiftech might comeout with some interesting ideas.
 

Avalon

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Originally posted by: Crusader
All I'm saying is there is going to finally be a clear performance leader since the XTX/GTX are so close overall.

But according to your sig, the Geforce 7 series dominates over ATI.

1900XTX ~= 7900GTX
X1800XT ~= 7900GT
X1800GTO ~= 7600GT

...yeah, I guess you're right. Nvidia did dominate this round.

 

mnemonik23

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Guys, let me ask you this:

1) will 7950 GX2 have 2 or 1 power connector?

and

2) do you think it will be possible to use any of currently existed (like low profile) GPU water blocks to fit between PCBs?

Thanks
 

hans007

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Originally posted by: mnemonik23
Originally posted by: munky
It will have 2 power connectors. Not sure about the water blocks.

I just found an interesting thread:
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=70457

"Quote:
Originally Posted by DragonFire
Will one or two power connectors be needed?

DF

Each set needs only one connector. An internal bridge links up the 12V rail to the secondary card."


huh? 1 power connector? That would be sweet!!



well 1 connector or 2 it doesnt really matter it is still going to draw the same powre.


also a 7900gt draws about 60 watts at load. it is just under a x1800xl i think.

if it only drew 48watts it would not need a pci-e power connector. a 7600gt draws like 45 watts and doesnt have the connector.
 

videogames101

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Originally posted by: jim1976
It is a very good solution for those that want greater than 7900GT SLI performance with less power consumption and heat in one card at a good price.. BUT.. Are they gonna o/c as well as the simple 7900GTs? Because if they don't it's not a solution for someone than can have much better performance through o/cing 2 GTs in SLI.
Anyway I didn't went ATI this time for the speed. I went for the IQ.. Even if you put 8 Nvidia cards together they will still have the same IQ (well except 32xAA :p .. )
But unless you care about that it's a great solution..

P.S : I wouldn't event mention Quad SLI which sounds like a joke in my ears with the cpu limitations we have even at the most gpu limited resolutions.. No matter how immature the drivers are I bet the results would not be the expected from a Quad $LI system..

Throw it with a FX62? Not that much of a bottleneck...