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dbal

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Hey thugs! It's the 1.95 Willie man here remember??? :) At first congrats on the o/c and thanx for your contribution to mine!!
Two things to say-For the buses speed question u are absolutely right for the problem. Sandra stops talking about it when o/cing and ASUS mobos (I got P4T-E) are a bit "hide and seek" about it. From a very deep research I made for my occasion (probably applies to u too) there are two DSW settings @133,150 FSB that turn the multipliers at 1/5 for the PCI and 2/5 for the AGP. That's info for DSW from the P4T manual which also applies to my mobo. I guess sth relevant happens to yours but maybe for other FSB scaling. I strongly believe that ASUS has these multipliers applied at these FSBs u are running!!
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Second....Did u run Prime95 to test yet? Plz post result.....;):D:p
Keep up the good work man! We all love u here...!
 

SSXeon5

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THUGSROOK - thanx man .... cuz im building a p4 rig for a friend and got the EPOX EP-4SDA+ SiS645, its a POS, crashes right after i do anything after a fresh install of win XP Pro corp and wont let me install the Nvidia drivers. I would install the drivers and then after i reboot they wouldnt be there or installed. I was so pissed cuz on my Asus CUSL2-C i815 mobo i never had crashing like this and I figured its the mobo. Everything else in the rig is top of the line stuff Maxtor 60GB HD, PNY Ti4400, Samsung PC-2700 ect ..... so im only going with intel mobos from now on .... thanx again for the info ill order that after newegg gets the sh*tty EPOX back :D

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THUGSROOK

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dbal thx for that info. Prime95 is the last benchie i run.

Flatbroke ooops i updated that info for you...
Corsair XMS2700 512mb rated Cas2
Enermax 430W
i bought this whole system from newegg.

SSXeon5 thats exactly why i post this info :)
im just a typical overclocker on a typical system giving honest results for good or bad.
(ok well maybe im not a typical overclocker) ;)
 

Barrei

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:D Hi Thugs well it eventually had to stop but 170FSB is phenominal to even get windows to boot up much less run for several hours CONGRATS.:)
 

THUGSROOK

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thx Barrei :)
actually there is nothing wrong with 170fsb. its been running great for those 20hours. played serious sam for a few hours and i ran 3dmark2k1se in a loop for over 6 hours. no instability at all.
i just dont think it would be a good idea to stress test 170fsb when i already know that 171fsb is a no-go.

im sure noone would mind if i start stress testing at 166fsb and work my way up ;)

ill be sure to post a complete list of what im using to stress test, and for how long i run it for. ill also update the vcore needed and temps info as i go along.

:)
 

SSXeon5

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SSXeon5 thats exactly why i post this info :)
im just a typical overclocker on a typical system giving honest results for good or bad.
(ok well maybe im not a typical overclocker) ;)

*in my experience you CAN hurt moboards/cpus by "running them on the VERY edge". if prolly wont kill the hardware - but you "might" lose some overclocking potential. ...right Duvie? ;) hehe
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:D Yea thanx again you dont understand how pissed i was after booting over 100times and crashing and random restarts sent me over the edge. When it arrives at newegg will defently order the asus P4B266-C :D And I never new that ocing the chips to the max can hurt ocing in the future. Damn ThugsRook 170fsb is amasing .... congrats on a amazing air cooled oc! Keep it up man :D

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THUGSROOK

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hehe, well please note how i worded that warning - its loaded with disclaimers ;)

but yes, it is possible.
 

dbwillis

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Great results so far..waiting for the end results (stable, etc)
I wasnt able to do the 148x16FSB/37PCI, 4:6 after all on my board..had to drop back down to 150x16FSB/38PCI, 4:5, 2.5-3-3 @ 2.7v
I got a BSOD after about 1 full day of 3dmark2001 and Final Reality benches...
 

THUGSROOK

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dbwillis i couldnt even do 133fsb 4:6 100% stable on that board - 4:6 is a tough one.

Camma we are not entirely sure this board has a working 1/5 PCI yet.
the AGP is definatly at 1/2 all the way to 170fsb. my benchmarks would have shown a dropoff somewhere.

*i updated the main page with some minor info

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seaning

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I just wanted to say I got a 1.6A from newegg last week same batch running on a MSI 845 Ultra ARU with 512 MB PC2700 Samsung Memory. It does 2.4 ghz without touching a thing, but the bus speed. I have it running 2.65 Ghz at 1.625V right now with the retail heatsink (with intel thermal crap) In a 3DCool.com tornando 2000 Case. Nice upgrade from a dual 366 @ 500 BP6 system.

nice over 1ghz overclock :)
 

oldfart

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I never seem to get one of the "primo" chips. Don't get me wrong. I'm very happy with 1.6 @ 2.4, but mine needs 1.675 to be 100% stable. I'd love to have one that did 2.4 GHz @ 1.5 Vcore!
 

Camma

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that is one thing i do so love about my 1.6A... its at 2.4 rock stable, at 1.58V. Anyway, here's to hoping ASUS likes us with some pci dividers! :)

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<< I just wanted to say I got a 1.6A from newegg last week same batch running on a MSI 845 Ultra ARU with 512 MB PC2700 Samsung Memory. It does 2.4 ghz without touching a thing, but the bus speed. I have it running 2.65 Ghz at 1.625V right now with the retail heatsink (with intel thermal crap) In a 3DCool.com tornando 2000 Case. Nice upgrade from a dual 366 @ 500 BP6 system.

nice over 1ghz overclock :)
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You've got me all excited. Because I have the same chip, same batch/date, same plant too!

I just haven't put my rig together yet! still waiting for my ram :frown:
 

THUGSROOK

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seaning how much stress has it been able to handle so far? not bad for your 1st post ;)

oldfart theyre so cheap why not just get another? the new ones seem to all be doing very well.

Camma it may have 1/5 PCI, it may not - donno yet.
ill run some HD benchmarks at 133fsb, 140fsb, 150fsb, 160fsb, and at 166fsb - maybe that will clue me in as to whats going on.

Update 166fsb
<passed> Benchmarks
<passed> 3DMark2000 (6 hour loop)
<passed> 3DMark2001SE (6 hour loop)

Everything is running 100% stable :D

Heres the Prime95 benchie results for those that care...
Best time for 256K FFT length: 9.851 ms.
Best time for 320K FFT length: 12.711 ms.
Best time for 384K FFT length: 15.235 ms.
Best time for 448K FFT length: 18.298 ms.
Best time for 512K FFT length: 20.497 ms.
Best time for 640K FFT length: 26.753 ms.
Best time for 768K FFT length: 32.303 ms.
Best time for 892K FFT length: 39.533 ms.
Best time for 1024K FFT length: 42.849 ms.
Best time for 1280K FFT length: 59.833 ms.
Best time for 1536K FFT length: 72.949 ms.
Best time for 1792K FFT length: 91.694 ms.
 

seaning

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Well, I've had the system up for almost 24 hours now, I left it running Giants all night (that game killed my old computer). I having been playing alot of Q3 engine based games, watched some divx movies. Transfered 10 GB over my network .. ran PCmark2002, and all the 3D marks. Ran sisoft Sandra... I haven't ran Prime or anything super hard on it yet, but so far no hiccups... I might load up Oracle Enterprise Server just for fun.
 

oldfart

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<< oldfart theyre so cheap why not just get another? the new ones seem to all be doing very well. >>


Eh, not that big a deal. If I had a real dog that wouldn't overclock well, I'd think about it, but I'm running @ 2.4 stable. I'll live with it (for now). The thing is, mine is a "new one". Pack date of 3/22. The last 3 CPU's I've got have been this way (Tualeron, PIII-S, P4A). They overclock well enough, but need that extra Vcore boost. I seem to not be very lucky when it comes to getting the best chips :( I would say that a P4 1.6A @ 2.4 @ default Vcoe has to be a pretty lucky draw from the bin. That is pretty darn good.
 

link26

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all the northwood chips come from the same wafer right? And then they lock the multiplier to 16, 18, etc etc ?

maybe.... for the 3/19/02 batch @ costa rica they had a shortage of 1.6A chips, so they used the 2.2 chips and clocked them down
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correct me if i'm wrong... I have very wishful thinking :)
 

THUGSROOK

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oldfart you may be right - the 3/19/02s seem to be the best.

link26 ummm something like that - we may never know for sure ;)
id think they have to test each and every chip do some degree - so they must know whats what.
 

ILikeSprite

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<< I never seem to get one of the "primo" chips. Don't get me wrong. I'm very happy with 1.6 @ 2.4, but mine needs 1.675 to be 100% stable. I'd love to have one that did 2.4 GHz @ 1.5 Vcore! >>



I got mine @ 2.4GHz without increasing the voltage at all and it is perfectly stable. Also since there is no increase in voltage it runs very cool. :D

Also this RDRAM @ 450MHz completely rocks! :D:D
 

SupermanCK

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Congrat to you Thugsrock...
I am running the same stuff but @150 FSB
I have a minor problem...it beeps occationally from the motherboard speaekrs...
here is my thread under motherboard section...
any help would be much appreciated
 

link26

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<< I never seem to get one of the "primo" chips. Don't get me wrong. I'm very happy with 1.6 @ 2.4, but mine needs 1.675 to be 100% stable. I'd love to have one that did 2.4 GHz @ 1.5 Vcore! >>



I got mine @ 2.4GHz without increasing the voltage at all and it is perfectly stable. Also since there is no increase in voltage it runs very cool. :D

Also this RDRAM @ 450MHz completely rocks! :D:D
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Which mobo do you have? Asus or Abit?

Doesn't a 2.4 ghz chip run hotter than a 1.6 chip? or does the temperature depend only on the voltage?
 

ILikeSprite

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<< I never seem to get one of the "primo" chips. Don't get me wrong. I'm very happy with 1.6 @ 2.4, but mine needs 1.675 to be 100% stable. I'd love to have one that did 2.4 GHz @ 1.5 Vcore! >>



I got mine @ 2.4GHz without increasing the voltage at all and it is perfectly stable. Also since there is no increase in voltage it runs very cool. :D

Also this RDRAM @ 450MHz completely rocks! :D:D
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Which mobo do you have? Asus or Abit?

Doesn't a 2.4 ghz chip run hotter than a 1.6 chip? or does the temperature depend only on the voltage?
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The mobo is an Asus P4T-E. It runs hotter then is does at it rated speed but considering i overclocked it by 800MHz and has been running for a week, 38C is cool. :D