75 Percent of OK High School Students can't name the first POTUS

[BoomerD]

That's because according to conservatives, Ronald Reagan was the first TRUE president of these United States. :roll:

 

[Possessed Freak]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
That's because according to conservatives, Ronald Reagan was the first TRUE president of these United States. :roll:

Can I play... According to Democrats, Karl Marx was the first real President.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Fern
At 75% I'm inclined to blame the scholl system rather than the kids

quoted for preservation

I'll bet these kids don't know the current president either, probably b/c their parents kept them home last week to avoid indoctrination.

They only know his MIDDLE name. :laugh:

 

[soulcougher73]

Originally posted by: BigDH01

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
pretty pathetic

you should know more than the basics of doing your job, that is absolutely not an excuse.

Why should I know more than what assists my ability to make money?

Maybe because everything is not about money?

 

[BigDH01]

Originally posted by: soulcougher73

Originally posted by: BigDH01

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
pretty pathetic

you should know more than the basics of doing your job, that is absolutely not an excuse.

Why should I know more than what assists my ability to make money?

Maybe because everything is not about money?

That's how I feel, but how does this translate to a market economy where people are not driven intrinsically and value is determined by profit generation?

 

[HannibalX]

In the 2nd grade we learned all the President's names in order by singing them as a class. I can still remember the order after all these years...

Washington
Adams
Jefferson
Madison
Monroe
Adams
Jackson
Van Buren
Harrison
Tyler
Polk
Taylot
Filmore
Pierce
Buchanan
Lincoln
Johnson
Grant
Hayes
Garfield

etc, etc...

 

[soulcougher73]

Originally posted by: BigDH01

Originally posted by: soulcougher73

Originally posted by: BigDH01

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
pretty pathetic

you should know more than the basics of doing your job, that is absolutely not an excuse.

Why should I know more than what assists my ability to make money?

Maybe because everything is not about money?

That's how I feel, but how does this translate to a market economy where people are not driven intrinsically and value is determined by profit generation?

It doesnt. You rise above and become better then the market economy

 

[BigDH01]

Originally posted by: soulcougher73

Originally posted by: BigDH01

Originally posted by: soulcougher73

Originally posted by: BigDH01

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
pretty pathetic

you should know more than the basics of doing your job, that is absolutely not an excuse.

Why should I know more than what assists my ability to make money?

Maybe because everything is not about money?

That's how I feel, but how does this translate to a market economy where people are not driven intrinsically and value is determined by profit generation?

It doesnt. You rise above and become better then the market economy

, that's the intrinsic motivation that I was discussing. The real problem in my opinion is that most people simply aren't intrinsically motivated to learn. If there's no extrinsic value (profit), it simply won't get done. When learning doesn't get done, you have a bunch of ignorant people directing society and comprising the body politic. Ultimately, I think Collectivism and Individualism fail for the same reason as time approaches infinity. Humanity simply falls short.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: Possessed Freak

Originally posted by: BoomerD
That's because according to conservatives, Ronald Reagan was the first TRUE president of these United States. :roll:

Can I play... According to Democrats, Karl Marx was the first real President.

Sorry. Karl Marx was never a US president.

thanks for playing though.

 

[IronWing]

Maybe it was a push poll.

Would you want a slave owning, war mongering, traitorous, Indian killing, wig wearing, Christ-denying, middle aged white male who pranced around in hosiery as first president of this great nation?

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: syrillus
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OKLAHOMA CITY -- Only one in four Oklahoma public high school students can name the first President of the United States, according to a survey released today.

The survey was commissioned by the Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs in observance of Constitution Day on Thursday.

Brandon Dutcher is with the conservative think tank and said the group wanted to find out how much civic knowledge Oklahoma high school students know.

The Oklahoma City-based think tank enlisted national research firm, Strategic Vision, to access students' basic civic knowledge.

"They're questions taken from the actual exam that you have to take to become a U.S. citizen," Dutcher said.

A thousand students were given 10 questions drawn from the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services item bank. Candidates for U.S. citizenship must answer six questions correctly in order to become citizens.

About 92 percent of the people who take the citizenship test pass on their first try, according to immigration service data. However, Oklahoma students did not fare as well. Only about 3 percent of the students surveyed would have passed the citizenship test.

Dutcher said this is not just a problem in Oklahoma. He said Arizona had similar results, which left him concerned for the entire country.

"Jefferson later said that a nation can't expect to be ignorant and free," Dutcher said. "It points to a real serious problem. We're not going to remain ignorant and free."

There's a breakdown of percentages of students that answered correctly for each question if you follow the link. I must say I was a bit shocked, even though some of the questions are a bit vague. I'd say I weep for the children, but is it partly their fault? Are students as a whole just not interested in school anymore? Is the rise of technology and "connectivity to the cloud" distracting children (and people in general) from learning?

How about as an insult to their intelligence, high school students giving the stupidest answer they could think of to the moronic questions some idiots gave them?

How much is one plus one, Mr. high school student? "????&*%#@:frown:<\,!!!" "Eleven of course:evil:, that's what you get when you put two 1's together."

 

[Possessed Freak]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: Possessed Freak

Originally posted by: BoomerD
That's because according to conservatives, Ronald Reagan was the first TRUE president of these United States. :roll:

Can I play... According to Democrats, Karl Marx was the first real President.

Sorry. Karl Marx was never a US president.

thanks for playing though.

You say conservatives claim Ronald Reagan was the first true president, I took this to be some outrageous claim from your camp. I replied in kind.