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'70s cars are latest, hottest collectibles

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'70s cars are latest, hottest collectibles

Nostalgia, increasing rarity fuels price increases at classic car auctions

By Jonathan Welsh / Wall Street Journal



Disco-era automotive oddballs include AMC Corp.'s Gremlin. "Campiness is coming back and to some degree, that's driving prices upward," says Paul Taylor, economist for National Automobile Dealers Association.

Terry Fitzpatrick?s mid-1970s Ford is chunky and not too fast, with plastic panels and peeling faux-chrome trim inside. Three years ago, he figured the car was worth buying for $5,000 because it reminded him of a TV show he watched as a kid. Now, he?s getting offers from people who are willing to buy it for $20,000 or more.

?I never thought it would take off like this,? says Fitzpatrick, a 39-year-old insurance underwriter in Wooster, Ohio. His 1976 Gran Torino, like the one from ?Starsky & Hutch,? is red and white. ?It?s really just a paint job,? he says.

That ?70s nostalgia has taken an unusual turn. Cars from that decade ? widely viewed as the low point of the U.S. auto industry ? are showing up on the antique auto circuit and starting to fetch classic car prices. A boxy 1977 Cadillac Fleetwood sold for $11,600 on the eBay Motors Internet auction site this month. A 1976 Chevrolet El Camino ? an early cross between a car and a pickup ? recently sold for $13,000 at Auburn, Ind. auction company Kruse International.

More than a few of these cars have a connection to 1970s television. The 1976 ?Starsky & Hutch? Ford Torino that Fitzpatrick owns is one of only about 200 known to be on the road today.

With a ?Starsky? movie set to come out in March, prices are expected to rise well beyond the $5,000 to $10,000 the cars have fetched over the past few years, says John Quirk, who tracks prices for the car for his Web site, Starskytorino.com.

Not every wacky ?70s-mobile is a good bet.

Consider the bubble-shaped AMC Pacer, the car driven by the suburban characters of ?Wayne?s World.? A 1976 model sold at Kruse auctioneers last fall for $8,200.

But Larry Mitchell, president of the AMC World Clubs, an organization for owners of American Motors cars, says he doubts his own two late-?70s Pacers will appreciate in value.

Collectors know spare parts are virtually impossible to find. As a result, the group has lost nearly half of its members over the past three years, declining to about 800 from about 1,500. ?People are just giving up,? Mitchell says.


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I want this car so bad....

Seriously. It's exactly what I've been looking for.

A rare 4 seater manual(most are autos...yeah, yeah.. I know they're sports cars and therefor the standard 2 seats is appropriate, but having 4 seats is just worth it to me. I do have friends, you know.)

Blue(my favorite color)

Excellent condition inside AND outside.. no rust..

Why does it have to be in flippin' bumfsck Florida?

🙁

😛
 
Originally posted by: Eli
I want this car so bad....

Seriously. It's exactly what I've been looking for.

A rare 4 seater manual(most are autos...yeah, yeah.. I know they're sports cars and therefor the standard 2 seats is appropriate, but having 4 seats is just worth it to me. I do have friends, you know.)

Blue(my favorite color)

Excellent condition inside AND outside.. no rust..

Why does it have to be in flippin' bumfsck Florida?

🙁

😛

Have it shipped.
 
Originally posted by: Eli
I want this car so bad....

Seriously. It's exactly what I've been looking for.

A rare 4 seater manual(most are autos...yeah, yeah.. I know they're sports cars and therefor the standard 2 seats is appropriate, but having 4 seats is just worth it to me. I do have friends, you know.)

Blue(my favorite color)

Excellent condition inside AND outside.. no rust..

Why does it have to be in flippin' bumfsck Florida?

🙁

😛


Because if it was in most parts of the US it would be a rust bucket.
😛
 
Originally posted by: Eli
I want this car so bad....

Seriously. It's exactly what I've been looking for.

A rare 4 seater manual(most are autos...yeah, yeah.. I know they're sports cars and therefor the standard 2 seats is appropriate, but having 4 seats is just worth it to me. I do have friends, you know.)

Blue(my favorite color)

Excellent condition inside AND outside.. no rust..

Why does it have to be in flippin' bumfsck Florida?

🙁

😛

I owned a blue 78 280Z (not 2+2) - most fun I've ever had driving a car, until some a$$hole rear ended me, and totaled my baby.:brokenheart:🙁

I will own another one sometime soon, hard to find a good one here in OR though.
 
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: Eli
I want this car so bad....

Seriously. It's exactly what I've been looking for.

A rare 4 seater manual(most are autos...yeah, yeah.. I know they're sports cars and therefor the standard 2 seats is appropriate, but having 4 seats is just worth it to me. I do have friends, you know.)

Blue(my favorite color)

Excellent condition inside AND outside.. no rust..

Why does it have to be in flippin' bumfsck Florida?

🙁

😛

Have it shipped.
It's spendy, coast to coast...

One place quoted me 1239$. :Q I am sure there are cheaper shippers, but how much cheaper could it be?

On a 2-3k car, that's just too much. I'd rather buy plane tickets and drive it home. I'm quite sure it'd be cheaper than 1200$ for tickets, gas, food..
 
I wouldn't mind a 1971 Buick GSX:
  • 1/4 mile: 13.38@105.1 mph 0-60: 5.5 sec

    The GS really came into its own in 1970 when Buick installed its 350-hp 455 V8. The 455 boasted an incredible 510 ft.-lb. of torque at just 2800 rpm. The Stage 1 option was rated just 10 hp higher (same torque), yet bone-stock the car could run the quarter mile in the low 13 second range at about 105 mph. - Text
 
Ick... I've been trying to get my hands on a nice late 80s/early 90s "classics in waiting"... better technology and some actual fuel economy sounds about right.

Mercedes 190E 2.5-16, Toyota Celica All-trac, BMW M3 & M5... etcetc.

 
Originally posted by: KokomoGST
Ick... I've been trying to get my hands on a nice late 80s/early 90s "classics in waiting"... better technology and some actual fuel economy sounds about right.

Mercedes 190E 2.5-16, Toyota Celica All-trac, BMW M3 & M5... etcetc.

you mean a 1 of 400 stock '88 Fiero Formulas in factory yellow?? 😉 😛
 
Originally posted by: Ornery
I wouldn't mind a 1971 Buick GSX:
  • 1/4 mile: 13.38@105.1 mph 0-60: 5.5 sec

    The GS really came into its own in 1970 when Buick installed its 350-hp 455 V8. The 455 boasted an incredible 510 ft.-lb. of torque at just 2800 rpm. The Stage 1 option was rated just 10 hp higher (same torque), yet bone-stock the car could run the quarter mile in the low 13 second range at about 105 mph. - Text

As fast as the LS1s. Kinda pathetic what 30 years or progress and technology have done.
 
70's cars were pretty miserable, they had smogged carbs (remember carburetors?) & primitive or no engine control systems.

I get all nostalgic for one & then drive one & remember that the average Kia is a much better daily dirver...
 
"...primitive or no engine control systems."

Not hard to add electronic ignition. After that' you'd still be able to fix the damn thing without having to diagnose it on a computer, to determine which of the half dozen sending units, sensors, valves or control units is malfunctioning. No timing belts, CV joints, or struts to break. Not to mention all the expensive smog crap and impossible to access engine bays! :disgust:

Here's a daily driver. '66 Biscayne, 283ci, 2bbl, 2sp Powerglide, 4dr with PLENTY of elbow and trunk room. Access to the engine bay was phenomenal. You could change the water pump without removing the radiator!
 
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
Originally posted by: Ornery
I wouldn't mind a 1971 Buick GSX:
  • 1/4 mile: 13.38@105.1 mph 0-60: 5.5 sec

    The GS really came into its own in 1970 when Buick installed its 350-hp 455 V8. The 455 boasted an incredible 510 ft.-lb. of torque at just 2800 rpm. The Stage 1 option was rated just 10 hp higher (same torque), yet bone-stock the car could run the quarter mile in the low 13 second range at about 105 mph. - Text

As fast as the LS1s. Kinda pathetic what 30 years or progress and technology have done.

Just takes a block nearly half the size, half the emissions, half the fuel consumption, and twice the drivability. Not that bad for 30 years.
 
I can actually smell the difference between a 70's era car & a newer one in traffic, they really spew hydrocarbons out the tailpipe.

Anyone else ever notice the smell difference?
 
Originally posted by: Scouzer
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
Originally posted by: Ornery
I wouldn't mind a 1971 Buick GSX:
  • 1/4 mile: 13.38@105.1 mph 0-60: 5.5 sec

    The GS really came into its own in 1970 when Buick installed its 350-hp 455 V8. The 455 boasted an incredible 510 ft.-lb. of torque at just 2800 rpm. The Stage 1 option was rated just 10 hp higher (same torque), yet bone-stock the car could run the quarter mile in the low 13 second range at about 105 mph. - Text
As fast as the LS1s. Kinda pathetic what 30 years or progress and technology have done.
Just takes a block nearly half the size, half the emissions, half the fuel consumption, and twice the drivability. Not that bad for 30 years.
Now you're using the same logic/argument that's generally applied for imports.
 
Originally posted by: Ornery
"...primitive or no engine control systems."

Not hard to add electronic ignition. After that' you'd still be able to fix the damn thing without having to diagnose it on a computer, to determine which of the half dozen sending units, sensors, valves or control units is malfunctioning. No timing belts, CV joints, or struts to break. Not to mention all the expensive smog crap and impossible to access engine bays! :disgust:

Here's a daily driver. '66 Biscayne, 283ci, 2bbl, 2sp Powerglide, 4dr with PLENTY of elbow and trunk room. Access to the engine bay was phenomenal. You could change the water pump without removing the radiator!
Oh brother. 😛

You do realize that computer controlled engines were a godsend, right?

It has brought us more powerful, more efficient engines.
 
Eletronic fuel injection is great. Everything beyond that is more complexity than I want to deal with. The extra savings, beyond what EFI delivers, is spent on diagnosing and repairing the extra crap.
 
Originally posted by: Ornery
Eletronic fuel injection is great. Everything beyond that is more complexity than I want to deal with. The extra savings, beyond what EFI delivers, is spent on diagnosing and repairing the extra crap.


after reading a lot of posts from you in different threads I recommend you get yourself a timemachine and go back to the stoneages


😛
 
Originally posted by: Scouzer
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
Originally posted by: Ornery
I wouldn't mind a 1971 Buick GSX:
  • 1/4 mile: 13.38@105.1 mph 0-60: 5.5 sec

    The GS really came into its own in 1970 when Buick installed its 350-hp 455 V8. The 455 boasted an incredible 510 ft.-lb. of torque at just 2800 rpm. The Stage 1 option was rated just 10 hp higher (same torque), yet bone-stock the car could run the quarter mile in the low 13 second range at about 105 mph. - Text

As fast as the LS1s. Kinda pathetic what 30 years or progress and technology have done.

Just takes a block nearly half the size, half the emissions, half the fuel consumption, and twice the drivability. Not that bad for 30 years.

Also have to remember the weight of the Buick GS. If you put that 455 into a 2003 Z06, it would be even quicker. When you're going for power, you don't care about the block size, emissions, fuel consumption 😀

Bill

 
It's about having your cake, and eating it, too. The Buick still had the Buick ride and amenities, not to mention ROOM! Elbow room, trunk room, rear passenger room, engine bay room... and a SMOOTH ride for the 99.5% of the time it wasn't being raced.


"I recommend you get yourself a timemachine and go back to the stoneages."

As long as Detroit makes V8, 4dr cars, based on a frame chassis and RWD, that I can easily get cheap parts for, and purchase for a few thousand dollars used, I'll be happy today.
 
Personally I like alot of the american muscle from the 70s, the Mach 1 mustangs, Shark Stingray Corvettes, Camaro's, Trans Ams...etc. Many were alot more aggressive in style than their 60 counterparts and alot less boxy than the 80s.

I also agree with Ornery in that too much computer control can be a headache, especially if you do your own car repair. The best car I worked on was my 90 Mustang, had some of the necessary sensors in it, but still easy enough to work on and diagnose with simple tools, todays cars are just too complex to try and work on yourself IMHO.
 
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: Eli
I want this car so bad....

Seriously. It's exactly what I've been looking for.

A rare 4 seater manual(most are autos...yeah, yeah.. I know they're sports cars and therefor the standard 2 seats is appropriate, but having 4 seats is just worth it to me. I do have friends, you know.)

Blue(my favorite color)

Excellent condition inside AND outside.. no rust..

Why does it have to be in flippin' bumfsck Florida?

🙁

😛

Have it shipped.
It's spendy, coast to coast...

One place quoted me 1239$. :Q I am sure there are cheaper shippers, but how much cheaper could it be?

On a 2-3k car, that's just too much. I'd rather buy plane tickets and drive it home. I'm quite sure it'd be cheaper than 1200$ for tickets, gas, food..

Gawd... Those things are a dime a dozen here in SoCal...

I've had two Z's... A 1976 280z 2 seater. 200hp/210ftlbs at the wheels WHEN I BOUGHT IT!! :Q The engine had just been gone over by someone that really knew what they were doing. It even passed smog. Amazing. Drove it to North Carolina when I moved out there, then it got stolen. 🙁

The other one was a 1978 2+2 I got cheap but was in perfect condition. We had some major flooding a few years ago and this poor car was drowned. Never did get it running again. 🙁 Sold it for parts.
 
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