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'70s cars are latest, hottest collectibles
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SweetSweetLeroyBrown
Senior member
I wouldn't mind a 70's vintage Chevy or GMC wide body truck...dropped and sitting on 20's of course!
Zenmervolt
Elite member
I still want a Lincoln Continental Mark IV. 🙂 One of the early ones from before all the standard features became optional and when the 460 CID V8 was still under the hood.
ZV
ZV
WinkOsmosis
Banned
Umm.. Those old engines were HUGE. MONSTROUS. And they got single digit fuel mileage numbers. How can you possibly compare a 7.5L brute of an engine to a 5.xL LS1? Come on. Do you really think 350hp from 7.5L is good?
I've always been a Z guy. 79 280ZX 5 spd, 85 300ZX Turbo GLL.
My buddy has a totally restored 79 that he has owned since about 1984. The engine has been done up to the tits, bored out, compression bumped, ported, polished, yadda, triple webber sidedrafts, goes like a raped ape.
If I could pick any Z right now, I'd like a mint 83 Turbo 5spd 2 seater.
If you want one that bad though, take a trip out west/south sometime. You see them all over the place and you'll have a good chance of getting one with a body thats in good shape (the 280s weak point).
CrackRabbit
Lifer
Cool now i can restore my old Hornet Wagon and get a milion bajillion bucks for it!
I see a lot of uummm to put it bluntly CRAP in this thread, comparing a 455 to a LS1 and then stating that there are no improvements is just insane, or you just don't know what the hell are you talking about.
What's the gas mileage of the 455 Buick ?...10 MAYBE 12 m.p.g.
What's the gas mileage of the LS1 ? mid 20's
How about emissions ?
The Buick puts out 100 times the tailpipe emissions that the LS1 does.
What about quality control of these two vehicles, the LS1 is good for over 200,000 miles, the 455, 100,000 miles.
The LS1 is 346 cubic inches, the Buick, 455.
Come on people, open your eyes, just because you personally cannot repair the modern technology, it does not mean that it's crap.
There is no doubt what-so-ever that modern fuel injection is a god send, better provability, better fuel economy, more power, longer lasting engines, much, much MUCH better tailpipe emissions.
I am currently building a custon fuel injection system for my 1966 Chevy Corvair engine that's in my VW Bus, why go through all the trouble ?
Read my above statement.
Megasquirt
Rant over..........................................
What's the gas mileage of the 455 Buick ?...10 MAYBE 12 m.p.g.
What's the gas mileage of the LS1 ? mid 20's
How about emissions ?
The Buick puts out 100 times the tailpipe emissions that the LS1 does.
What about quality control of these two vehicles, the LS1 is good for over 200,000 miles, the 455, 100,000 miles.
The LS1 is 346 cubic inches, the Buick, 455.
Come on people, open your eyes, just because you personally cannot repair the modern technology, it does not mean that it's crap.
There is no doubt what-so-ever that modern fuel injection is a god send, better provability, better fuel economy, more power, longer lasting engines, much, much MUCH better tailpipe emissions.
I am currently building a custon fuel injection system for my 1966 Chevy Corvair engine that's in my VW Bus, why go through all the trouble ?
Read my above statement.
Megasquirt
Rant over..........................................
There's a 71 Merc Montego with a 302 auto for sale across the street from me for $1,700.
phantom309
Platinum Member
Try to keep that in mind as your Buick understeers into the ditch at speeds that wouldn't even scuff the tires of a modern performance car.
First off all cars built today are set with understeer, secondly most of the cars from the 70's handle just fine for the power they are packing. It's when you cram engines into tiny cars that have most of the weight in the front that need special suspensions to compensate for a lack of balance.
"First off all cars built today are set with understeer, secondly most of the cars from the 70's handle just fine for the power they are packing. It's when you cram engines into tiny cars that have most of the weight in the front that need special suspensions to compensate for a lack of balance."
I wouldn't even begin to think a bias ply clad, old Buick could compete on a road course in stock form. Todays cars would fare much better. But, to me this is just STUPID! As I said, 99.5% of the time your car is merely transportation from point A to point B. WTF do you want to rattle your teeth all that time? My wife's G. Marquis has 16" wheels with the short sidewalls. The thing corners like it's on rails, and I'm not exaggerating, but it REALLY isn't worth it, because you can feel every bump in the road. That's just dumb for a supposedly comfortable cruiser. I notice cop cars have 15" wheels, and they need handling more than I do! What do they know that we don't? 😕
I wouldn't even begin to think a bias ply clad, old Buick could compete on a road course in stock form. Todays cars would fare much better. But, to me this is just STUPID! As I said, 99.5% of the time your car is merely transportation from point A to point B. WTF do you want to rattle your teeth all that time? My wife's G. Marquis has 16" wheels with the short sidewalls. The thing corners like it's on rails, and I'm not exaggerating, but it REALLY isn't worth it, because you can feel every bump in the road. That's just dumb for a supposedly comfortable cruiser. I notice cop cars have 15" wheels, and they need handling more than I do! What do they know that we don't? 😕
Hahaha.. lots of Z guys in the thread... Eli, my first car was a '79 280ZX.. and my most recent was a 91 300ZXTT... shoot me a PM sometime about Z cars...
BTW: I don't think there is anything at all rare about a 2+2 manual 280... the 280ZX _Turbo_ is what was rare in a manual, those came mostly in automatics - but the vast majority of 280s I've seen were 5 speeds. I think my dad bought mine for $750, I drove it for 5 years, sold it to my roommate with 180k miles on it (let him have it for $500) and I think he probably put another 30-40k miles on it before the transmission started making a noise like rocks in a blender... at which point HE sold it to some guy for $500.. hahaha.
Flot
(Z FIEND)
PS: I've thought about buying another old 280ZX... but don't think I'd want to pay more than ~$1000 for one... like someone else said, an 83 turbo 5spd might be fun... I used to beat the hell out of that Z, and had almost no problems with it. My friends used to hate it when I made u-turns, somehow the back end would always swing around to say hi... lol...
BTW: I don't think there is anything at all rare about a 2+2 manual 280... the 280ZX _Turbo_ is what was rare in a manual, those came mostly in automatics - but the vast majority of 280s I've seen were 5 speeds. I think my dad bought mine for $750, I drove it for 5 years, sold it to my roommate with 180k miles on it (let him have it for $500) and I think he probably put another 30-40k miles on it before the transmission started making a noise like rocks in a blender... at which point HE sold it to some guy for $500.. hahaha.
Flot
(Z FIEND)
PS: I've thought about buying another old 280ZX... but don't think I'd want to pay more than ~$1000 for one... like someone else said, an 83 turbo 5spd might be fun... I used to beat the hell out of that Z, and had almost no problems with it. My friends used to hate it when I made u-turns, somehow the back end would always swing around to say hi... lol...
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