6th Grader Admits to killing ducks with pencil

[Tipsy Turtle]

Originally posted by: glutenberg
Do people get torn up when they intentionally kill an insect in their house or does this only apply to cute, cuddly creatures?

I cry for every fly.

 

[Mr Incognito]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: jdoggg12

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Killing a couple ducks makes you a potential serial killer?

:roll:

Uncalled for? Absolutely. Worthy of punishment? Probably. Anything more than some stupid kid doing something to piss off a bunch of other stupid kids? Highly unlikely.

Viper GTS

Every kid that i knew growing up that took pleasure in mutilating animals has grown to be a felon or has violent tendencies

We don't have nearly enough information to draw that kind of conclusion here. Why assume the worst?

Viper GTS

But...we do.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Tipsy Turtle

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
We need tighter pencil control laws.

Obviously we need a waiting period and background screens before someone is allowed to purchase a pencil.

Pens are right out! Especially the automatic assault pens.

Mechanical pencils have been banned in my state for years.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Probably exercising millions of years of hunting/survival evolution embedded in his DNA.

If he had made a fire and grilled the duck then eaten it, sure.

 

[Tipsy Turtle]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Tipsy Turtle

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
We need tighter pencil control laws.

Obviously we need a waiting period and background screens before someone is allowed to purchase a pencil.

Pens are right out! Especially the automatic assault pens.

Mechanical pencils have been banned in my state for years.

Rightly so. For every mechanical pencil we keep off the street it saves elevently billion innocent lives.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: thepd7
It is well documented that most serial killers started on animals (torture, random killing, etc).

It may be documented that serial killers start with animals but is it also documented if normal people never hurt animals? It may be that all humans senselessly hurt animals which makes the linking of it with serial killers void.

 

[jdoggg12]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: jdoggg12

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Killing a couple ducks makes you a potential serial killer?

:roll:

Uncalled for? Absolutely. Worthy of punishment? Probably. Anything more than some stupid kid doing something to piss off a bunch of other stupid kids? Highly unlikely.

Viper GTS

Every kid that i knew growing up that took pleasure in mutilating animals has grown to be a felon or has violent tendencies

We don't have nearly enough information to draw that kind of conclusion here. Why assume the worst?

Viper GTS

The kid beating up another kid needs a back story. The kid stealing money needs a backstory.

But...

The kid mutilating (more than one) animal and not seeing that theres anything wrong with it seems like enough to tell theres something fundamentally wrong. The blame may lay with the parents, but it needs to be adressed.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Tipsy Turtle

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
We need tighter pencil control laws.

Obviously we need a waiting period and background screens before someone is allowed to purchase a pencil.

Pens are right out! Especially the automatic assault pens.

Mechanical pencils have been banned in my state for years.

Are you serious?

 

[NaOH]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: thepd7
It is well documented that most serial killers started on animals (torture, random killing, etc).

It may be documented that serial killers start with animals but is it also documented if normal people never hurt animals? It may be that all humans senselessly hurt animals which makes the linking of it with serial killers void.

Why are you guys arguing against this? No one said HE WILL be a serial killer, we just said that he could potentially be a serial killer.

The fact that he killed these ducks with a pencil and didn't think it was wrong is a red flag that this kid needs help. Have you guys not realized he is in the 6th grade!?

 

[Tipsy Turtle]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: thepd7
It is well documented that most serial killers started on animals (torture, random killing, etc).

It may be documented that serial killers start with animals but is it also documented if normal people never hurt animals? It may be that all humans senselessly hurt animals which makes the linking of it with serial killers void.

When was the last time you read a biography of a successful person that said:

"When he was 7 years old little Billy Gates liked to run around the neighborhood stomping kittens to death."

????

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
We need tighter pencil control laws.

hehe thats what i was thinking

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Tipsy Turtle

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
We need tighter pencil control laws.

Obviously we need a waiting period and background screens before someone is allowed to purchase a pencil.

Pens are right out! Especially the automatic assault pens.

Mechanical pencils have been banned in my state for years.

Are you serious?

Absolutely. I have to go across state lines or to an indian reservation to buy them. They tell us it's for our safety, but I think it's part of a conspiracy by "big lumber" to sell more conventional pencils.

 

[Tipsy Turtle]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Tipsy Turtle

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
We need tighter pencil control laws.

Obviously we need a waiting period and background screens before someone is allowed to purchase a pencil.

Pens are right out! Especially the automatic assault pens.

Mechanical pencils have been banned in my state for years.

Are you serious?

Absolutely. I have to go across state lines or to an indian reservation to buy them. They tell us it's for our safety, but I think it's part of a conspiracy by "big lumber" to sell more conventional pencils.

I know someone who can get you some sweet Mexican mechanical pencils. For the right price of course.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Tipsy Turtle

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
We need tighter pencil control laws.

Obviously we need a waiting period and background screens before someone is allowed to purchase a pencil.

Pens are right out! Especially the automatic assault pens.

Mechanical pencils have been banned in my state for years.

Are you serious?

Absolutely. I have to go across state lines or to an indian reservation to buy them. They tell us it's for our safety, but I think it's part of a conspiracy by "big lumber" to sell more conventional pencils.

Completely ridiculous. Why, I'd stab your political leaders with mechanical pencils, were I you.

 

[J3S73R]

Originally posted by: Mr Incognito

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: jdoggg12

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Killing a couple ducks makes you a potential serial killer?

:roll:

Uncalled for? Absolutely. Worthy of punishment? Probably. Anything more than some stupid kid doing something to piss off a bunch of other stupid kids? Highly unlikely.

Viper GTS

Every kid that i knew growing up that took pleasure in mutilating animals has grown to be a felon or has violent tendencies

We don't have nearly enough information to draw that kind of conclusion here. Why assume the worst?

Viper GTS

But...we do.

How? you said "Every kid that i knew growing up that took pleasure in mutilating animals has grown to be a felon or has violent tendencies". Now... where does it say he took pleasure?

 

[Viper GTS]

I don't see anything inherently wrong with killing animals (torture yes, killing no) so unless someone can show me that this kid has a history of this kind of stuff I don't see this as any different than smashing a class project. Definitely inappropriate behavior, but the killing isn't the issue.

Viper GTS

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: NaOH

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: thepd7
It is well documented that most serial killers started on animals (torture, random killing, etc).

It may be documented that serial killers start with animals but is it also documented if normal people never hurt animals? It may be that all humans senselessly hurt animals which makes the linking of it with serial killers void.

Why are you guys arguing against this? No one said HE WILL be a serial killer, we just said that he could potentially be a serial killer.

The fact that he killed these ducks with a pencil and didn't think it was wrong is a red flag that this kid needs help. Have you guys not realized he is in the 6th grade!?

Because I imagine there are many people who have killed many animals without a second thought. How many times do you think the average person kills an insect without any guilt? Does that mean they are potential serial killers?

 

[Tipsy Turtle]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: NaOH

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: thepd7
It is well documented that most serial killers started on animals (torture, random killing, etc).

It may be documented that serial killers start with animals but is it also documented if normal people never hurt animals? It may be that all humans senselessly hurt animals which makes the linking of it with serial killers void.

Why are you guys arguing against this? No one said HE WILL be a serial killer, we just said that he could potentially be a serial killer.

The fact that he killed these ducks with a pencil and didn't think it was wrong is a red flag that this kid needs help. Have you guys not realized he is in the 6th grade!?

Because I imagine there are many people who have killed many animals without a second thought. How many times do you think the average person kills an insect without any guilt? Does that mean they are potential serial killers?

You're comparing apples to battleships.

Killing a pest in your home is one thing. Killing a duck just because you see nothing wrong with it is in a whoooooole other league.

 

[ggnl]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
I don't see anything inherently wrong with killing animals (torture yes, killing no) so unless someone can show me that this kid has a history of this kind of stuff I don't see this as any different than smashing a class project. Definitely inappropriate behavior, but the killing isn't the issue.

Viper GTS

You're splitting hairs. Whether or not he torturted the ducks, it's the lack of empathy and feeling that he'd done nothing wrong that should be sending up the red flags here. Animal cruelty in children is a classic precursor to the onset of psychopathy/antisocial disorder later in life. It doesn't necessarily mean he's going to turn into a serial killer, but if I were his father he'd be in therapy the next day.

 

[crt1530]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Killing a couple ducks makes you a potential serial killer?

:roll:

Uncalled for? Absolutely. Worthy of punishment? Probably. Anything more than some stupid kid doing something to piss off a bunch of other stupid kids? Highly unlikely.

Viper GTS

Statistically, the average serial killer is a white male from a lower to middle class background, usually in his twenties or thirties. Many were physically or emotionally abused by parents. Some were adopted. As children, fledgling serial killers often set fires, torture animals, and wet their beds (these red-flag behaviors are known as the "triad" of symptoms.) Brain injuries are common. Some are very intelligent and have shown great promise as successful professionals. They are also fascinated with the police and authority in general. They will either have attempted to become police themselves but were rejected, or worked as security guards, or had served in the military. Many, including John Gacy, the Hillside Stranglers, and Ted Bundy, will disguise themselves as law enforcement officials to gain access to their victims.

Link

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: Tipsy Turtle

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: NaOH

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: thepd7
It is well documented that most serial killers started on animals (torture, random killing, etc).

It may be documented that serial killers start with animals but is it also documented if normal people never hurt animals? It may be that all humans senselessly hurt animals which makes the linking of it with serial killers void.

Why are you guys arguing against this? No one said HE WILL be a serial killer, we just said that he could potentially be a serial killer.

The fact that he killed these ducks with a pencil and didn't think it was wrong is a red flag that this kid needs help. Have you guys not realized he is in the 6th grade!?

Because I imagine there are many people who have killed many animals without a second thought. How many times do you think the average person kills an insect without any guilt? Does that mean they are potential serial killers?

You're comparing apples to battleships.

Killing a pest in your home is one thing. Killing a duck just because you see nothing wrong with it is in a whoooooole other league.

All you have done is label one animal a pest and one animal an innocent bystander. You've unconsciously placed a higher value on a duck's life than another animal's life. How is an insect in your home any different than a duck in your school? Would you not kill an insect that was in the school?

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: crt1530

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Killing a couple ducks makes you a potential serial killer?

:roll:

Uncalled for? Absolutely. Worthy of punishment? Probably. Anything more than some stupid kid doing something to piss off a bunch of other stupid kids? Highly unlikely.

Viper GTS

Statistically, the average serial killer is a white male from a lower to middle class background, usually in his twenties or thirties. Many were physically or emotionally abused by parents. Some were adopted. As children, fledgling serial killers often set fires, torture animals, and wet their beds (these red-flag behaviors are known as the "triad" of symptoms.) Brain injuries are common. Some are very intelligent and have shown great promise as successful professionals. They are also fascinated with the police and authority in general. They will either have attempted to become police themselves but were rejected, or worked as security guards, or had served in the military. Many, including John Gacy, the Hillside Stranglers, and Ted Bundy, will disguise themselves as law enforcement officials to gain access to their victims.

Link

Guess we better start evaluating bed wetters.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Tipsy Turtle

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: NaOH

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: thepd7
It is well documented that most serial killers started on animals (torture, random killing, etc).

It may be documented that serial killers start with animals but is it also documented if normal people never hurt animals? It may be that all humans senselessly hurt animals which makes the linking of it with serial killers void.

Why are you guys arguing against this? No one said HE WILL be a serial killer, we just said that he could potentially be a serial killer.

The fact that he killed these ducks with a pencil and didn't think it was wrong is a red flag that this kid needs help. Have you guys not realized he is in the 6th grade!?

Because I imagine there are many people who have killed many animals without a second thought. How many times do you think the average person kills an insect without any guilt? Does that mean they are potential serial killers?

You're comparing apples to battleships.

Killing a pest in your home is one thing. Killing a duck just because you see nothing wrong with it is in a whoooooole other league.

All you have done is label one animal a pest and one animal an innocent bystander. You've unconsciously placed a higher value on a duck's life than another animal's life. How is an insect in your home any different than a duck in your school? Would you not kill an insect that was in the school?

did you read the article? the ducks were like class pets, not bees or flies that just happened to fly into the window.

 

[crt1530]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Tipsy Turtle

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: NaOH

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: thepd7
It is well documented that most serial killers started on animals (torture, random killing, etc).

It may be documented that serial killers start with animals but is it also documented if normal people never hurt animals? It may be that all humans senselessly hurt animals which makes the linking of it with serial killers void.

Why are you guys arguing against this? No one said HE WILL be a serial killer, we just said that he could potentially be a serial killer.

The fact that he killed these ducks with a pencil and didn't think it was wrong is a red flag that this kid needs help. Have you guys not realized he is in the 6th grade!?

Because I imagine there are many people who have killed many animals without a second thought. How many times do you think the average person kills an insect without any guilt? Does that mean they are potential serial killers?

You're comparing apples to battleships.

Killing a pest in your home is one thing. Killing a duck just because you see nothing wrong with it is in a whoooooole other league.

All you have done is label one animal a pest and one animal an innocent bystander. You've unconsciously placed a higher value on a duck's life than another animal's life. How is an insect in your home any different than a duck in your school? Would you not kill an insect that was in the school?

Whether you can wrap your tiny little mind around it or not, there is a big difference between squashing a fly and stabbing a duck to death for no other reason than to watch it die.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: crt1530

Whether you can wrap your tiny little mind around it or not, there is a big difference between squashing a fly and stabbing a mammal to death for no other reason than to watch it die.

A mammal, eh?

Tiny little mind indeed.



Viper GTS