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600hp for 100k, probably trapping at over 120 and running 10's stock

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Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Alprazolam
2010, New viper redesigned will kill this . Can't wait to get it !

Hahahahahahahaha, the current one with more hp and torque than the Z06 doesn't even come close to it.

Idiot, I said 2010. Plus this "Vette" isn't out yet. Learn to READ. The 2010 Viper, will murder it.
 
Originally posted by: iversonyin

Zonda, Koenigsegg, Porsche GT....yade yade yada

How fun, an edit.

Let's see.

Koenigsegg: More expensive by a factor of 6
Carrera GT: More expensive by a factor of 4
Zonda: More expensive by a factor of...at least 3

And how many of these could be purchased stateside anyway? Don't forget to add that additional bit into your price comparison
 
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: iversonyin
IN HELL I WOULD PAY OVER $100k for a CHEVY.

SO MANY BETTER CARS IN THE PRICE RANGE

......such as?

the Z06 can beat a ferrari f430 around a track and in the quarter mile. what do you think a lighter, more powerful vette will do?

edit: posting in all caps makes your statements all the more authoritative, yeah 😉

911 Turbo?! Sorry, no way you can justify a Chevy for $100K+

So what it can beat a Ferrari in speed. I would take the Ferrari over Chevy anytime of the day. You don't buy a car just for track.

Or I can get a BMW M3 for daily driver and get an Elise/ Atom for track.

I'd take a Ferrari over a Corvette any day of the week too, but on some days, I only have $120k in my wallet.

On those days, you are better off with those cars I listed. IMHO. Because those cars offer luxury and comfort that I don't think this Chevy will. Have we forgotten the arch enemy- the Viper?

Well, no wonder.

You listed off a bunch of GTs and you're comparing them to a pure sports car.

I'm pretty sure those "GTs" are just as capable as a 600hp Vette. Like noone made a car with 600 hp before.

Feel free to name all the 600 HP production cars that have been made that sell for $120k or less, GT or otherwise.

None, the new SRT 10 Viper is going to be one. So a big WOW I guess?

I guess 500 HP is too slow compare to a 600 HP vette, nor it is "sporty" enough.

Ha ha. Way to backpedal.

"Like noone made a car with 600 hp before" was your selling point a few minutes ago 😉

My selling point is that you can get better car for the money. And 600 HP been done before. So I fail to see this is a big deal. Ohh, BUT there's no car that has 600 HP and sell for less - yet! A big WOW.
You're the one who brought up 600 HP being done before...and you still haven't named a single production car where it has.

Since the SRT 10 coming out soon. And those "GTs" are just as capable.

Just as capable at being GTs. And why is GT in quotes? Still googling for the acronym? 😉

There's no strict classification for a Gran Tourer. If there is, 911 turbo is definitely not one.

Veyron has how many HP?

...and costs more than $100k by what factor?

10 last I checked

Well then, there are plenty of 600 HP cars been done before. No I didn't mention any being done cheaper than the Vette.

Ha ha. What a waste of time.

What's the point of comparing cars that cost millions to cars 1/10th the cost?

There's the BIG WOW you're looking for...

...waste of time
 
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: jpeyton
2007 Chevy Corvette $43,000

LPE 600HP TT Upgrade $25,000

A lot of fun for a lot less money.

BTW, the SS won't be found for under $110k, probably around $120k if the market for the Z06 is any indication.
Nice!!

Edit: You know what, I might have to take that back. I don't see anywhere in that package that they include an upgraded braking system and upgraded suspension. I thought those refinements were all included with the Z06. So for $43K + $25K, you just get an engine upgrade. Correct?

Just an engine upgrade. But I'll be the first to admit, if I get Corvette, I'm not going to track it. Just some 'go fast' on the streets and highways.

Doesn't this look fun? LPE kits rule, especially if you have a line on a cheap C5 Vette.
 
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: iversonyin
IN HELL I WOULD PAY OVER $100k for a CHEVY.

SO MANY BETTER CARS IN THE PRICE RANGE

......such as?

the Z06 can beat a ferrari f430 around a track and in the quarter mile. what do you think a lighter, more powerful vette will do?

edit: posting in all caps makes your statements all the more authoritative, yeah 😉

911 Turbo?! Sorry, no way you can justify a Chevy for $100K+

So what it can beat a Ferrari in speed. I would take the Ferrari over Chevy anytime of the day. You don't buy a car just for track.

Or I can get a BMW M3 for daily driver and get an Elise/ Atom for track.

I'd take a Ferrari over a Corvette any day of the week too, but on some days, I only have $120k in my wallet.

On those days, you are better off with those cars I listed. IMHO. Because those cars offer luxury and comfort that I don't think this Chevy will. Have we forgotten the arch enemy- the Viper?

Well, no wonder.

You listed off a bunch of GTs and you're comparing them to a pure sports car.

I'm pretty sure those "GTs" are just as capable as a 600hp Vette. Like noone made a car with 600 hp before.

Feel free to name all the 600 HP production cars that have been made that sell for $120k or less, GT or otherwise.

None, the new SRT 10 Viper is going to be one. So a big WOW I guess?

I guess 500 HP is too slow compare to a 600 HP vette, nor it is "sporty" enough.

Ha ha. Way to backpedal.

"Like noone made a car with 600 hp before" was your selling point a few minutes ago 😉

My selling point is that you can get better car for the money. And 600 HP been done before. So I fail to see this is a big deal. Ohh, BUT there's no car that has 600 HP and sell for less - yet! A big WOW.
You're the one who brought up 600 HP being done before...and you still haven't named a single production car where it has.

Since the SRT 10 coming out soon. And those "GTs" are just as capable.

Just as capable at being GTs. And why is GT in quotes? Still googling for the acronym? 😉

There's no strict classification for a Gran Tourer. If there is, 911 turbo is definitely not one.

Veyron has how many HP?

...and costs more than $100k by what factor?

10 last I checked

Well then, there are plenty of 600 HP cars been done before. No I didn't mention any being done cheaper than the Vette.

Ha ha. What a waste of time.

What's the point of comparing cars that cost millions to cars 1/10th the cost?

There's the BIG WOW you're looking for...

...waste of time

I was comparing cars in the price range.

And I said 600 HP is not impressive because it has been done before...(not like there no production car with 600 HP). It would WOW me if theres no car that has 600 HP.

So there's nothing impressive about this car, except that its a fast car, WHICH everyone of its competitions are. and 911 Turbo doesn't have 600 HP, this new Vette probably as fast as that.

So there's a WOW you looking for, they build a really fast car.




 
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: iversonyin
IN HELL I WOULD PAY OVER $100k for a CHEVY.

SO MANY BETTER CARS IN THE PRICE RANGE

......such as?

the Z06 can beat a ferrari f430 around a track and in the quarter mile. what do you think a lighter, more powerful vette will do?

edit: posting in all caps makes your statements all the more authoritative, yeah 😉

911 Turbo?! Sorry, no way you can justify a Chevy for $100K+

So what it can beat a Ferrari in speed. I would take the Ferrari over Chevy anytime of the day. You don't buy a car just for track.

Or I can get a BMW M3 for daily driver and get an Elise/ Atom for track.

I'd take a Ferrari over a Corvette any day of the week too, but on some days, I only have $120k in my wallet.

On those days, you are better off with those cars I listed. IMHO. Because those cars offer luxury and comfort that I don't think this Chevy will. Have we forgotten the arch enemy- the Viper?

Well, no wonder.

You listed off a bunch of GTs and you're comparing them to a pure sports car.

I'm pretty sure those "GTs" are just as capable as a 600hp Vette. Like noone made a car with 600 hp before.

Feel free to name all the 600 HP production cars that have been made that sell for $120k or less, GT or otherwise.

None, the new SRT 10 Viper is going to be one. So a big WOW I guess?

I guess 500 HP is too slow compare to a 600 HP vette, nor it is "sporty" enough.

Ha ha. Way to backpedal.

"Like noone made a car with 600 hp before" was your selling point a few minutes ago 😉

My selling point is that you can get better car for the money. And 600 HP been done before. So I fail to see this is a big deal. Ohh, BUT there's no car that has 600 HP and sell for less - yet! A big WOW.
You're the one who brought up 600 HP being done before...and you still haven't named a single production car where it has.

Since the SRT 10 coming out soon. And those "GTs" are just as capable.

Just as capable at being GTs. And why is GT in quotes? Still googling for the acronym? 😉

There's no strict classification for a Gran Tourer. If there is, 911 turbo is definitely not one.

Veyron has how many HP?

...and costs more than $100k by what factor?

10 last I checked

Well then, there are plenty of 600 HP cars been done before. No I didn't mention any being done cheaper than the Vette.

Ha ha. What a waste of time.

What's the point of comparing cars that cost millions to cars 1/10th the cost?

There's the BIG WOW you're looking for...

...waste of time

I was comparing cars in the price range.

And I said 600 HP is not impressive because it has been done before...(not like there no production car with 600 HP). It would WOW me if theres no car that has 600 HP.

So there's nothing impressive about this car, except that its a fast car, WHICH everyone of its competitions are. and 911 Turbo doesn't have 600 HP, this new Vette probably as fast as that.

So there's a WOW you looking for, they build a really fast car.

Uggh.

Before you waste anyone else's time, let me tell you what's wrong with your argument: You're comparing it to cars that either make similar power or are in the same price range.

The words that you're looking for are "both" and "and"
 
does anyone else find it amusing that these guys are all arguing about cars that...

they'll never own... they'll never drive... and they have no idea how capable any of these cars are first hand (and never will) and yet they're all getting twisted up over it?
 
Originally posted by: slikmunks
does anyone else find it amusing that these guys are all arguing about cars that...

they'll never own... they'll never drive... and they have no idea how capable any of these cars are first hand (and never will) and yet they're all getting twisted up over it?

I'm really only arguing about logic at this point...

[Edit] And not that it matters but I have owned sports cars, and have driven multiple Corvettes including the Z06
 
Originally posted by: getbush
Originally posted by: Ilikepiedoyou
Once again proving there is no reason to buy a porsche

Porsche's are still quicker in the all important 0-poontang test.

Yup. And with less power they can still get just as good if not better track times...and I prefer driing rear engine cars. I like the balance much better. I dont know why I just have an easier time keeping on the edge.
 
Originally posted by: rnp614
Originally posted by: Ilikepiedoyou
Once again proving there is no reason to buy a porsche

Yeah. Class and resale value dont matter at all :roll:.

Not when you're picking up girls at your local Hooters :laugh:
 
Even if the Viper isnt faster its a much sexier car that just screams american muscle. The vette is just trying to rip off ferrari in a cheap american BS sort of way.
 
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: iversonyin
IN HELL I WOULD PAY OVER $100k for a CHEVY.

SO MANY BETTER CARS IN THE PRICE RANGE

......such as?

the Z06 can beat a ferrari f430 around a track and in the quarter mile. what do you think a lighter, more powerful vette will do?

edit: posting in all caps makes your statements all the more authoritative, yeah 😉

911 Turbo?! Sorry, no way you can justify a Chevy for $100K+

So what it can beat a Ferrari in speed. I would take the Ferrari over Chevy anytime of the day. You don't buy a car just for track.

Or I can get a BMW M3 for daily driver and get an Elise/ Atom for track.

I'd take a Ferrari over a Corvette any day of the week too, but on some days, I only have $120k in my wallet.

On those days, you are better off with those cars I listed. IMHO. Because those cars offer luxury and comfort that I don't think this Chevy will. Have we forgotten the arch enemy- the Viper?

Well, no wonder.

You listed off a bunch of GTs and you're comparing them to a pure sports car.

I'm pretty sure those "GTs" are just as capable as a 600hp Vette. Like noone made a car with 600 hp before.

Feel free to name all the 600 HP production cars that have been made that sell for $120k or less, GT or otherwise.

None, the new SRT 10 Viper is going to be one. So a big WOW I guess?

I guess 500 HP is too slow compare to a 600 HP vette, nor it is "sporty" enough.

Ha ha. Way to backpedal.

"Like noone made a car with 600 hp before" was your selling point a few minutes ago 😉

My selling point is that you can get better car for the money. And 600 HP been done before. So I fail to see this is a big deal. Ohh, BUT there's no car that has 600 HP and sell for less - yet! A big WOW.
You're the one who brought up 600 HP being done before...and you still haven't named a single production car where it has.

Since the SRT 10 coming out soon. And those "GTs" are just as capable.

Just as capable at being GTs. And why is GT in quotes? Still googling for the acronym? 😉

There's no strict classification for a Gran Tourer. If there is, 911 turbo is definitely not one.

Veyron has how many HP?

...and costs more than $100k by what factor?

10 last I checked

Well then, there are plenty of 600 HP cars been done before. No I didn't mention any being done cheaper than the Vette.

Ha ha. What a waste of time.

What's the point of comparing cars that cost millions to cars 1/10th the cost?

There's the BIG WOW you're looking for...

...waste of time

I was comparing cars in the price range.

And I said 600 HP is not impressive because it has been done before...(not like there no production car with 600 HP). It would WOW me if theres no car that has 600 HP.

So there's nothing impressive about this car, except that its a fast car, WHICH everyone of its competitions are. and 911 Turbo doesn't have 600 HP, this new Vette probably as fast as that.

So there's a WOW you looking for, they build a really fast car.

Uggh.

Before you waste anyone else's time, let me tell you what's wrong with your argument: You're comparing it to cars that either make similar power or are in the same price range.

The words that you're looking for are "both" and "and"

If the SS IS marked up as much as it most likely will it WILL be in the prce category wiht the 911 turbo. The turbo wins hands down.
 
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: slikmunks
does anyone else find it amusing that these guys are all arguing about cars that...

they'll never own... they'll never drive... and they have no idea how capable any of these cars are first hand (and never will) and yet they're all getting twisted up over it?

I'm really only arguing about logic at this point...

[Edit] And not that it matters but I have owned sports cars, and have driven multiple Corvettes including the Z06

aahhh, but what kind of track time have you done in those cars that would let you push those cars to the limit much like you would have to do to the cars you guys are talking about to be able to tell the difference between fast and really fast? 🙂 just messin' with ya... i just think it's a dumb argument to be having... each car is nice in its own way...

yes, the new ss will be fast, but it won't have the fit and finish of your ferrari or your porsche... so...? you pay for the difference. to each his own, and to each car its own demographic.
 
Btw I'd like to add that I've driven (not on a track mind you) a 911 Turbo, a standard 06 Corvette, and currently own a 99' R/T 10.

The Viper doesnt kid you about what it is. An engine on wheels thats dressed to impress. The body is amazing IMO. It doesnt try to create a ferrari mystique of any kind. The Corvette has lost all its identity in an attempt to have the race track bragging rights (which it now has) but it still doesnt have any kind of lasting value and it will always be considered a lower tier vehicle.

Just my 2 cents.
 
oh, and rnp64, the z06 beat a 911 turbo in an issue of car & driver on a track around buttonwillow... imagine a lighter and more powerful one 🙂

i wouldn't say the 911 turbo wins hands down, but i'd give it the W b/c well... it's a porsche! there's a reason they've been tops for so long, they've got the performance, fit and finish down to an awesome overall package!
 
Originally posted by: slikmunks
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: slikmunks
does anyone else find it amusing that these guys are all arguing about cars that...

they'll never own... they'll never drive... and they have no idea how capable any of these cars are first hand (and never will) and yet they're all getting twisted up over it?

I'm really only arguing about logic at this point...

[Edit] And not that it matters but I have owned sports cars, and have driven multiple Corvettes including the Z06

aahhh, but what kind of track time have you done in those cars that would let you push those cars to the limit much like you would have to do to the cars you guys are talking about to be able to tell the difference between fast and really fast? 🙂 just messin' with ya... i just think it's a dumb argument to be having... each car is nice in its own way...

yes, the new ss will be fast, but it won't have the fit and finish of your ferrari or your porsche... so...? you pay for the difference. to each his own, and to each car its own demographic.

That last paragraph is the bottomline. Well put. 😉. I'm a viper/porsche fan myself 😀


 
Originally posted by: rnp614
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: iversonyin
IN HELL I WOULD PAY OVER $100k for a CHEVY.

SO MANY BETTER CARS IN THE PRICE RANGE

......such as?

the Z06 can beat a ferrari f430 around a track and in the quarter mile. what do you think a lighter, more powerful vette will do?

edit: posting in all caps makes your statements all the more authoritative, yeah 😉

911 Turbo?! Sorry, no way you can justify a Chevy for $100K+

So what it can beat a Ferrari in speed. I would take the Ferrari over Chevy anytime of the day. You don't buy a car just for track.

Or I can get a BMW M3 for daily driver and get an Elise/ Atom for track.

I'd take a Ferrari over a Corvette any day of the week too, but on some days, I only have $120k in my wallet.

On those days, you are better off with those cars I listed. IMHO. Because those cars offer luxury and comfort that I don't think this Chevy will. Have we forgotten the arch enemy- the Viper?

Well, no wonder.

You listed off a bunch of GTs and you're comparing them to a pure sports car.

I'm pretty sure those "GTs" are just as capable as a 600hp Vette. Like noone made a car with 600 hp before.

Feel free to name all the 600 HP production cars that have been made that sell for $120k or less, GT or otherwise.

None, the new SRT 10 Viper is going to be one. So a big WOW I guess?

I guess 500 HP is too slow compare to a 600 HP vette, nor it is "sporty" enough.

Ha ha. Way to backpedal.

"Like noone made a car with 600 hp before" was your selling point a few minutes ago 😉

My selling point is that you can get better car for the money. And 600 HP been done before. So I fail to see this is a big deal. Ohh, BUT there's no car that has 600 HP and sell for less - yet! A big WOW.
You're the one who brought up 600 HP being done before...and you still haven't named a single production car where it has.

Since the SRT 10 coming out soon. And those "GTs" are just as capable.

Just as capable at being GTs. And why is GT in quotes? Still googling for the acronym? 😉

There's no strict classification for a Gran Tourer. If there is, 911 turbo is definitely not one.

Veyron has how many HP?

...and costs more than $100k by what factor?

10 last I checked

Well then, there are plenty of 600 HP cars been done before. No I didn't mention any being done cheaper than the Vette.

Ha ha. What a waste of time.

What's the point of comparing cars that cost millions to cars 1/10th the cost?

There's the BIG WOW you're looking for...

...waste of time

I was comparing cars in the price range.

And I said 600 HP is not impressive because it has been done before...(not like there no production car with 600 HP). It would WOW me if theres no car that has 600 HP.

So there's nothing impressive about this car, except that its a fast car, WHICH everyone of its competitions are. and 911 Turbo doesn't have 600 HP, this new Vette probably as fast as that.

So there's a WOW you looking for, they build a really fast car.

Uggh.

Before you waste anyone else's time, let me tell you what's wrong with your argument: You're comparing it to cars that either make similar power or are in the same price range.

The words that you're looking for are "both" and "and"

If the SS IS marked up as much as it most likely will it WILL be in the prce category wiht the 911 turbo. The turbo wins hands down.

Surely you can't blame GM for consumer demand driving prices up.

Unless you think there's something wrong with selling a car that too many people want and charging a price that's too low?

Perhaps you prefer that they made a Corvette that no one wanted and charged way too much for it...
 
Originally posted by: slikmunks
oh, and rnp64, the z06 beat a 911 turbo in an issue of car & driver on a track around buttonwillow... imagine a lighter and more powerful one 🙂

i wouldn't say the 911 turbo wins hands down, but i'd give it the W b/c well... it's a porsche! there's a reason they've been tops for so long, they've got the performance, fit and finish down to an awesome overall package!

Thats what I meant. Not in track times necessarily (depends on the track I bet you) but I hold fit and finish as well as resale value as BIG selling points when you get into the 100+ price category.
 
Originally posted by: b0mbrman



Uggh.

Before you waste anyone else's time, let me tell you what's wrong with your argument: You're comparing it to cars that either make similar power or are in the same price range.

The words that you're looking for are "both" and "and"

I never argue that it doesn't give best HP for the buck. I said that there other cars that are just as fast and can perform just as well for the money AND can be use for daily cruises.

AND I said the 600 HP has been done before, so it doesn't IMPRESS me nor does it provide any extra "WOW" factor to the car. Unlike the Veyron, which is the first production car that has over 1000 HP. The first time someone put out 600 HP, its cool. Now there's car with 1000 HP, 600 HP isn't that cool/impressive. That's what I meant when I said "not like 600 HP hasn't been done before"


 
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: rnp614
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: iversonyin
IN HELL I WOULD PAY OVER $100k for a CHEVY.

SO MANY BETTER CARS IN THE PRICE RANGE

......such as?

the Z06 can beat a ferrari f430 around a track and in the quarter mile. what do you think a lighter, more powerful vette will do?

edit: posting in all caps makes your statements all the more authoritative, yeah 😉

911 Turbo?! Sorry, no way you can justify a Chevy for $100K+

So what it can beat a Ferrari in speed. I would take the Ferrari over Chevy anytime of the day. You don't buy a car just for track.

Or I can get a BMW M3 for daily driver and get an Elise/ Atom for track.

I'd take a Ferrari over a Corvette any day of the week too, but on some days, I only have $120k in my wallet.

On those days, you are better off with those cars I listed. IMHO. Because those cars offer luxury and comfort that I don't think this Chevy will. Have we forgotten the arch enemy- the Viper?

Well, no wonder.

You listed off a bunch of GTs and you're comparing them to a pure sports car.

I'm pretty sure those "GTs" are just as capable as a 600hp Vette. Like noone made a car with 600 hp before.

Feel free to name all the 600 HP production cars that have been made that sell for $120k or less, GT or otherwise.

None, the new SRT 10 Viper is going to be one. So a big WOW I guess?

I guess 500 HP is too slow compare to a 600 HP vette, nor it is "sporty" enough.

Ha ha. Way to backpedal.

"Like noone made a car with 600 hp before" was your selling point a few minutes ago 😉

My selling point is that you can get better car for the money. And 600 HP been done before. So I fail to see this is a big deal. Ohh, BUT there's no car that has 600 HP and sell for less - yet! A big WOW.
You're the one who brought up 600 HP being done before...and you still haven't named a single production car where it has.

Since the SRT 10 coming out soon. And those "GTs" are just as capable.

Just as capable at being GTs. And why is GT in quotes? Still googling for the acronym? 😉

There's no strict classification for a Gran Tourer. If there is, 911 turbo is definitely not one.

Veyron has how many HP?

...and costs more than $100k by what factor?

10 last I checked

Well then, there are plenty of 600 HP cars been done before. No I didn't mention any being done cheaper than the Vette.

Ha ha. What a waste of time.

What's the point of comparing cars that cost millions to cars 1/10th the cost?

There's the BIG WOW you're looking for...

...waste of time

I was comparing cars in the price range.

And I said 600 HP is not impressive because it has been done before...(not like there no production car with 600 HP). It would WOW me if theres no car that has 600 HP.

So there's nothing impressive about this car, except that its a fast car, WHICH everyone of its competitions are. and 911 Turbo doesn't have 600 HP, this new Vette probably as fast as that.

So there's a WOW you looking for, they build a really fast car.

Uggh.

Before you waste anyone else's time, let me tell you what's wrong with your argument: You're comparing it to cars that either make similar power or are in the same price range.

The words that you're looking for are "both" and "and"

If the SS IS marked up as much as it most likely will it WILL be in the prce category wiht the 911 turbo. The turbo wins hands down.

Surely you can't blame GM for consumer demand driving prices up.

Unless you think there's something wrong with selling a car that too many people want and charging a price that's too low?

Perhaps you prefer that they made a Corvette that no one wanted and charged way too much for it...

My wish is they stop making 5 billion of these cars each year and make it so seeing one on the street is a special sight rather than commonplace. It seems like vette's are everywhere. They are mundane as a result.

 
Originally posted by: slikmunks
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: slikmunks
does anyone else find it amusing that these guys are all arguing about cars that...

they'll never own... they'll never drive... and they have no idea how capable any of these cars are first hand (and never will) and yet they're all getting twisted up over it?

I'm really only arguing about logic at this point...

[Edit] And not that it matters but I have owned sports cars, and have driven multiple Corvettes including the Z06

aahhh, but what kind of track time have you done in those cars that would let you push those cars to the limit much like you would have to do to the cars you guys are talking about to be able to tell the difference between fast and really fast? 🙂 just messin' with ya... i just think it's a dumb argument to be having... each car is nice in its own way...

yes, the new ss will be fast, but it won't have the fit and finish of your ferrari or your porsche... so...? you pay for the difference. to each his own, and to each car its own demographic.

Track time in a base Corvette...

But with that thinking, aren't all arguments about supercars dumb arguments? I imagine the majority sold are only driven to the golf course and back (and to Hooters and back :thumbsup😉.

And your last paragraph is the point I made pages ago: different cars at different prices are made for different people and it's silly to compare across genres.
 
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: b0mbrman



Uggh.

Before you waste anyone else's time, let me tell you what's wrong with your argument: You're comparing it to cars that either make similar power or are in the same price range.

The words that you're looking for are "both" and "and"

I never argue that it doesn't give best HP for the buck. I said that there other cars that are just as fast and can perform just as well for the money AND can be use for daily cruises.

AND I said the 600 HP has been done before, so it doesn't IMPRESS me nor does it provide any extra "WOW" factor to the car. Unlike the Veyron, which is the first production car that has over 1000 HP. The first time someone put out 600 HP, its cool. Now there's car with 1000 HP, 600 HP isn't that cool/impressive. That's what I meant when I said "not like 600 HP hasn't been done before"

The pros have been shoe-horning 1000+ HP into trackers for years. Throw enough money at anything and you can reach whatever power numbers you want.

Now 600 HP and $100k. That's impressive.
 
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