6 Endangered Tech Species - Another out-of-touch crap from yahoo

[Glitchny]

Only thing on this list that makes sense is GPS. With turn by turn on my droid I've never had the need for a standalone device. Consoles replaced by smartphones? are they serious? touch based gaming sux donkey balls.

 

[SparkyJJO]

I prefer a dedicated GPS to using the phone as a GPS. I don't want a call to ring in and make me miss a turn. But that's just me.

Plus, for the tinfoil hat people, the GPS is just a device with no name attached to it. The smartphone, they know who you are....

 

[Bateluer]

This one seems to me written by someone addicted to apple.


Link to article

1. Digital cameras - replaced by start phones.
Epic Fail - lot of ppl still care about the sensor and lens not to mention the flash and battery life.

2. Video-Game Consoles - again, replaced by start phones
OMG EPIC PHAIL x 2 - are you fvckin kidding me, did he totally forget about graphics quality, screen size and interactivity...

3. Navigation Devices - again, replaced by start phones
Somewhat agree - but a standalone device that just does its job will always be popular and right now the smartphone based GPS are a joke.

4. Tablets
5. Netbooks
6. E-Readers
All replaced by ipads I guess... and understandably so, they were never really popular with the masses.

What I find funny is his love for iStuff... I guess he has already replaced his vibrators with them...

The list is a joke, though I can kinda see Netbooks being replaced by the smart phone.

Obviously the list was written by someone who's never used a Kindle or a nook. After using an e-ink display for reading, you'll never want to even attempt reading on an LCD/AMOLED screen again. There's no way any device like an iPad, netbook, or tablet will beat out a nook or Kindle for readability.

LOL on the digital cameras. My 10 year old 2.2Mp Kodak DX3600 takes better pictures than any smart phone, including those with the 8Mp designs. The 12.2Mp Fuji I picked up at a Newegg sale for 65 dollars a few months back is so far beyond a smart phone camera its not even funny.

 

[AMDZen]

ugh.

phone camers are nowhere near as nice as even an OK PS with a decent CCD. ever look at those photos on a real screen?

The iPhone 4 camera has been put up against new point and shoots and comes out the winner. I could post numerous articles that show the iPhone has, bar none, the best camera of any smart phone on the market. Thats today, tomorrow there will be numerous cameras that are as good and they will only get better.

Just because you use a flip phone doesn't mean all phone cameras are bad, the new Droid X and EVO have good cameras as well just to name a few others

 

[shortylickens]

The iPhone 4 camera has been put up against new point and shoots and comes out the winner.

Did you get that from apples forum?

 

[AMDZen]

Did you get that from apples forum?

How about PCWorld who is notoriously biased against Apple:

Here's evidence that megapixel counts rarely matter: Apple's 5-megapixel iPhone 4 led the pack for overall image quality in our tests, serving up well-exposed, brightly colored images in our evaluations.

In fact, the iPhone 4 actually bested two full-fledged point-and-shoot cameras when it came to two testing categories: We included sample images from the Samsung HZ35W and Sony Cyber-shot DSC-WX1 in our image-evaluation pool, and the iPhone 4 outscored both of them in terms of exposure quality and color accuracy.

Go back to sucking on big green android c*cks in the Gadget/phone forum with your phandroid freinds.




This is OT and not a tech subforum but still, knock off the name calling. This stuff is getting old.


esquared
Anandtech Administrator

 

[BassBomb]

1. Yahoo

they are more endangered

 

[AMDZen]

Just saw this and it really speaks to the same reasons why I prefer to just use my iPhone camera now instead of my canon elph which is good

http://www.pcworld.com/article/202832/are_camera_phones_better_than_cheap_cameras.html

I would add to this that the final reason is convenience. I always have my phone on me and don't have to carry another device with me.

 

[ShawnD1]

The GPS on Android phones is far superior than any stand-alone unit today. That's why Garmin and Tom-Tom are crapping their pants right now.

The gf has an android phone and the GPS on that is a pile of shit. The problem is that it never seems to know where we are or what direction we are facing. It shows a map, but where it says we are is flat out wrong.

 

[HumblePie]

Pretty damn dumb article.

First off, the GPS navigation being replaced by smart phones. WTF?

All I can say is big idiot. Why? You ever go mountain biking and try to whip out your smart phone to check where you are? I don't think so. You need something mounted on your bike, preferably something with some other measuring tools built in as well for biking like a distance calculator, a grade measurement, and other fun stuff to keep tabs on while biking. And something MUCH tougher than any smart phone will ever be.

Not to mention cell phone navigation still sucks. Dedicated devices are much better and are easier to mount in a car.

Cell phone cameras are terrible. They will never get "good" either because of their inherent limited size limitations. The optics is just limited based on the size that a smart phone has to be. Even cheap snapshot cameras are measurably better than any smart phone cameras. Not to mention the higher grade SLR cameras.

As the OP pointed out, it was a stupid article from someone in love with everything Apple and has bought into their hoopla.

 

[Anubis]

The gf has an android phone and the GPS on that is a pile of shit. The problem is that it never seems to know where we are or what direction we are facing. It shows a map, but where it says we are is flat out wrong.

ive never had that issue with mine and the nav works fine. last week a coworker and i actually tested this he has an iphone, our nav directions were exactly the same. his has a sexier voice (Australian). that was the only difference

 

[Rubycon]

The iPhone 4 camera has been put up against new point and shoots and comes out the winner. I could post numerous articles that show the iPhone has, bar none, the best camera of any smart phone on the market. Thats today, tomorrow there will be numerous cameras that are as good and they will only get better.

Just because you use a flip phone doesn't mean all phone cameras are bad, the new Droid X and EVO have good cameras as well just to name a few others

Yes it is quite good. I like how the high ISO shots have a more filmy grain look rather than an overprocessed "oil painting" look that some P&S (cough Sony) produce! The video is also good and quite close to SD780is quality. The biggest problem is lack of image stabilization (optical) and it really shows if you are moving the slightest bit. Give them time and they will probably have it although it will probably be digital stabilization rather than optical which (of course) the latter is better. Digital zoom is completely worthless and I wish they would only allow it to be used to VIEW and not actually record an image.

 

[Lonyo]

3. I'd say my phone has taken over a good portion of the responsibilities of my GPS. Downside - Google Maps needs Internet connectivity, and if I'm in a completely unfamiliar area I'll still want turn by turn voice directions from my GPS.

Sounds like you need better phone GPS setup.
Last I knew, most of the major players also have phone software.
Nokia gives away their navigation software for free, including downloadable maps for most places in the world, so no internet connectivity is required, as well as having full turn by turn navigation available, including in multiple languages.

 

[AMDZen]

Pretty damn dumb article.

First off, the GPS navigation being replaced by smart phones. WTF?

All I can say is big idiot. Why? You ever go mountain biking and try to whip out your smart phone to check where you are? I don't think so. You need something mounted on your bike, preferably something with some other measuring tools built in as well for biking like a distance calculator, a grade measurement, and other fun stuff to keep tabs on while biking. And something MUCH tougher than any smart phone will ever be.

Maybe this is true but not everyone would need GPS on their bikes. For the kind of riding I do, I can stop and whip my phone out if I get lost. I have never had any issues with my iPhone GPS.

Not to mention cell phone navigation still sucks. Dedicated devices are much better and are easier to mount in a car.

Maybe you've had problems, I don't know what phone you have - but I have never really had any issues at all, and I have a lot of friends with Droid phones who have ZERO issues also.

Its perfectly easy for me to get in my car, and put my phone into my dash mounted carrier for my phone that is pointed right at me - and I don't need to spend more money. This article appeals to a lot of people.

Cell phone cameras are terrible. They will never get "good" either because of their inherent limited size limitations. The optics is just limited based on the size that a smart phone has to be. Even cheap snapshot cameras are measurably better than any smart phone cameras. Not to mention the higher grade SLR cameras.

I disagree, my cell phone is always in my pocket - I have a camera whever I need it - right there on me. Is it as good as a DSLR, of course not - but its in my pocket. DSLR is still something you might want for special occasions, but so many times I am just some random place with random people and want to take a picture. My iPhone4 is the first device I feel comfortable with. I can take pictures and actually use them and show them because the quality is "good enough".

As the OP pointed out, it was a stupid article from someone in love with everything Apple and has bought into their hoopla.

Not sure why you feel only apple fans could possibly feel this way. I am not an apple fan, at all - I am an iphone fan, I love my phone - but I have numerous friends with Droids that feel the exact same way I do.

This is the future. The phone will one day replace cameras for 90% of people, not everyone needs huge optics for huge zoom. The phone will replace lots of devices on this list. It is not speculation or opinion. Its fact.

 

[Raduque]

This list is stupid. The only thing that makes sense is GPS and cameras, but standalone cameras still have better lenses, sensors, reliability, and flash.

Wireless display technology is interesting, but radio waves have latency. A cable between a display and a source device is instant.

The GPS on Android phones is far superior than any stand-alone unit today.

Unless you have a Samsung Galaxy S.

 

[Zargon]

The iPhone 4 camera has been put up against new point and shoots and comes out the winner. I could post numerous articles that show the iPhone has, bar none, the best camera of any smart phone on the market. Thats today, tomorrow there will be numerous cameras that are as good and they will only get better.

Just because you use a flip phone doesn't mean all phone cameras are bad, the new Droid X and EVO have good cameras as well just to name a few others

I have a BB Curve 2.

I hadnt seen the iphone4 camera, but I doubt it will best my powerhsot a590 which cost me 100 dollars almost 2 years ago.

Did my camera phone replace my a590? in maybe 30% of the cases when I just want a quick pic. but when I am taking pictures of work done(bike, car, lawn, house) or going on vacation I bring the power shot. thinking of upgrading to the IS20 for more zoom.

I wll never argue they didnt reduce the need, but they are still far from replacing them. they have zero advanced features that my point and shoot does as well. aperature, ISO settings, exposure settings, mine does all of this. I cant take an phone into a cave and get good pics, it just cant handle it.

http://www.yorgoo.com/blog/yorgo-nestoridis/iphone-4-photo-camera-review-1/

 

[zinfamous]

Yes it is quite good. I like how the high ISO shots have a more filmy grain look rather than an overprocessed "oil painting" look that some P&S (cough Sony) produce! The video is also good and quite close to SD780is quality. The biggest problem is lack of image stabilization (optical) and it really shows if you are moving the slightest bit. Give them time and they will probably have it although it will probably be digital stabilization rather than optical which (of course) the latter is better. Digital zoom is completely worthless and I wish they would only allow it to be used to VIEW and not actually record an image.

what is the shutter delay like on these cameras? I ask b/c while my phone is admittedly shitty in comparison (samsung behold), it was originally touted as the first "true camera phone" or something like that, b/c it has 6 MP on a phone!!! well, it was the first one, anyway. Assuming most ATers already know what nonsense MP rating is, I'll move along.

the shutter delay on the camera is ~ 4 SECONDS! That's right--4 SECONDS. MP really counts for nothing when your subject is already a blur running out of frame. (try and snap a photo of a 4 year-old. ) IS isn't horrible on this one, but it isn't very good, either. The shutter delay completely bricks the camera for me.

 

[Numenorean]

GPS does but that's it.

No it doesn't. Find me a phone which can do what my GPSMap 60CSX can do, and have the same or better battery life while doing it.

 

[Numenorean]

The iPhone 4 camera has been put up against new point and shoots and comes out the winner. I could post numerous articles that show the iPhone has, bar none, the best camera of any smart phone on the market. Thats today, tomorrow there will be numerous cameras that are as good and they will only get better.

Just because you use a flip phone doesn't mean all phone cameras are bad, the new Droid X and EVO have good cameras as well just to name a few others

And still, the iPhone's camera is a piece of shit compared to a good digital camera. When you can mount it on a tripod, control the aperture from at least 2.8 to 16 throughout an optical zoom range of 16-400mm, add accessory flash units, etc. then come back and try again.

 

[Ns1]

And still, the iPhone's camera is a piece of shit compared to a good digital camera. When you can mount it on a tripod, control the aperture from at least 2.8 to 16 throughout an optical zoom range of 16-400mm, add accessory flash units, etc. then come back and try again.

1 device > 2 devices > 2 devices + accessories

 

[foghorn67]

The iPhone 4 camera has been put up against new point and shoots and comes out the winner. I could post numerous articles that show the iPhone has, bar none, the best camera of any smart phone on the market. Thats today, tomorrow there will be numerous cameras that are as good and they will only get better.

Just because you use a flip phone doesn't mean all phone cameras are bad, the new Droid X and EVO have good cameras as well just to name a few others

A camera from 5 years ago. Oh please. If it is compared to a modern P&S, it's oversharpened, over blotched, over processed.

 

[Zargon]

1 device > 2 devices > 2 devices + accessories

great so go shoot a wedding with an iPhone and see how the bride likes the pictures

 

[zinfamous]

1 device > 2 devices > 2 devices + accessories

If you're taking home photos of your nuts, maybe.

But if you're actually interested in photography, this is not the case.

 

[trmiv]

And still, the iPhone's camera is a piece of shit compared to a good digital camera. When you can mount it on a tripod, control the aperture from at least 2.8 to 16 throughout an optical zoom range of 16-400mm, add accessory flash units, etc. then come back and try again.

Most camera buying consumers don't give two shits or know two shits about anything you just said.

I think a lot of people in this thread didn't actually bother to read the part about the cameras. You're all looking at this from your techie ATOT standpoint, not the average consumer standpoint.

"We're just now starting to see handsets come on board with 5- to 8-megapixel cameras, and that's where we saw digital cameras really start to take off," Rubin says. "Unless the consumer has a need for optical zoom or some of the things that are more difficult to accommodate with software, we'll see more users take pictures with their handset."

This suggests a widening schism between the average tourist shooter and the guy trying way too hard to take pictures of trees in his local park. Shipments of high-end interchangeable-lens SLR cameras are expected to be much more robust, growing 8.6% in 2010 and 7% in 2012. The large size of current SLR lenses will keep them from becoming just another smartphone snap-on, but their small market share may reduce cameras to the domain of die-hards.

"You have to look at what you want to do really well and where you want to just get by," Dulaney says. "If you just want to get by, then an iPhone's all you need, but if want to see an email on a large screen or take pictures of your dog in really high quality, you'll get an iPad and a camera as well."

I think they captured it pretty well. They aren't saying all digital cameras are endangered. They are saying people who need more features are going to buy a camera, but people who just want some quick snapshots are going to use their smartphone cameras more and more.

Just speaking from my personal experience, I'm seeing it happen. For snapshots outside most of the time I just use my Droid. My wife does the same, and so do my parents. Yea we have digital cameras that we bought a few years ago that we use in situations that we need better quality, but if I'm just talking quick snapshots, the camera I always have in my pocket is good enough. It's convenient, quick, always charged, and I always have it with me. For this reason I doubt I'll buy another digital camera. The digital camera I already have is good enough for situations where my phone isn't, and my next smartphone will likely have a good enough camera that I will be less likely to want to break out the digital camera.

 

[Ns1]

great so go shoot a wedding with an iPhone and see how the bride likes the pictures

I'm not a professional photographer, so that does not apply to me.


95% of the things I shoot the iPhone works fine; I would dare say that this would apply to a large percentage of the population.

99% of the shots I take with my LX3 get resized to web-optimized size anyway; who wants a 10MB shot of my dog on Picasa Web Albums?

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Well said by trmiv