57 Think Democrat Agenda "Extreme"

[Orignal Earl]

I wouldn't be so quick to judge how bad the D's are going to get 'ass-pounded'. The public has a really short memory. And with the Fed. dollars going towards road projects, proping up State budgets, and extending Unemployment out so as to keep The Masses from getting really upset, the Public might not be as upset as you think.

Chuck

The so-called science of poll-taking is not a science at all but mere necromancy. People are unpredictable by nature, and although you can take a nation's pulse, you can't be sure that the nation hasn't just run up a flight of stairs.
Elwyn Brooks White

yep

 

[Jhhnn]

I think that is a VERY real possibility. Everything he does pisses off the country even more. The telling stat is the independents which is what always decides elections. They see what Obama is doing to this economy and how much he is hurting them.

Apparently, you'd blame the first guy who drove into town for the tornado that passed through just ahead of him...

What exactly is he doing to the economy and how is he hurting independent voters, anyway?

It's really easy to be against anything, whatever it is, in the current nebulous spoiled brat rightwing sort of way... What are you for? What can we do to make things better?

 

[ProfJohn]

Obama's problems are self inflicted.

Remember that he didn't even take over the final lead in the election until after the stock market crashed. He was elected because of the state of the economy.

And what did he do when he took office?

1. Passed a stimulus bill that failed to do what he claimed it would do. It was such a failure that Democrats have been told to not even refer to it as a stimulus bill anymore.

2. Then he passed a healthcare bill that was so bad that the Democrats hardly even talk about it anymore. And like the stimulus bill the Democrats have been told to avoid talking about the healthcare bill and the promises that the used to pass the bill. Instead of talking about how the bill will cut the deficit they are told to talk about how the bill was a start and how they now must work on making the bill even better etc etc.

3. Obama totally blew the BP oil leak.

4. Then he stepped in it with the mosque issue making an unforced mistake. He could have avoided the issue, but instead he took the unpopular position and made a big speech about said position.

Those four big screw ups along with lack of leadership on the economy and jobs are why he has gone from being super popular when he took office to being unpopular today. At the rate he is going he will be at Jimmy Carter and G.W. Bush levels before he leaves office.

 

[Moonbeam]

Extreme is a buzz word used by imbeciles and assholes to characterize anything other than their own stupidity.

 

[manimal]

yay more reporting on polls..

If you asked most americans if they thought WWE wrestling should be an olympic sport they would say yes.

Ask them if they think taxes are extreme...... Go ahead...

Lets change the constitution and the entire American system of governance to reactionary polling... If the majority of people believe it it must to true-good


Lets look at polling on government itself... most will say they hate big government...but ask them about social security..... thats not big government is it...

 

[dmcowen674]

What is this 57&#37 ???

 

[dmcowen674]

It's the death panels, that and taking our fishing poles away. Besides, Obama is a Muslim from Kenya so his party has to have extreme and un-American ideas.

Kudos to the Republicans for spreading an amazing amount of FUD.

They are the masters.

I was surprised they lost power temporarily.

They will be back to finish off the country completely.

 

[Fenixgoon]

They are the masters.

I was surprised they lost power temporarily.

They will be back to finish off the country completely.

or maybe when nancy pelosi is one of your most visible party members people do think you're crazy?

 

[StageLeft]

Does anyone here actually know what the agenda is? Not in your words but the official one... I'm thinking no...

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Does anyone here actually know what the agenda is? Not in your words but the official one... I'm thinking no...

Win at all costs.

 

[Red Dawn]

Wide awake. Eyes wide open now.

Can't get much more extreme than you or Patranus.

 

[Jhhnn]

Obama's problems are self inflicted.

Remember that he didn't even take over the final lead in the election until after the stock market crashed. He was elected because of the state of the economy.

And what did he do when he took office?

1. Passed a stimulus bill that failed to do what he claimed it would do. It was such a failure that Democrats have been told to not even refer to it as a stimulus bill anymore.

2. Then he passed a healthcare bill that was so bad that the Democrats hardly even talk about it anymore. And like the stimulus bill the Democrats have been told to avoid talking about the healthcare bill and the promises that the used to pass the bill. Instead of talking about how the bill will cut the deficit they are told to talk about how the bill was a start and how they now must work on making the bill even better etc etc.

3. Obama totally blew the BP oil leak.

4. Then he stepped in it with the mosque issue making an unforced mistake. He could have avoided the issue, but instead he took the unpopular position and made a big speech about said position.

Those four big screw ups along with lack of leadership on the economy and jobs are why he has gone from being super popular when he took office to being unpopular today. At the rate he is going he will be at Jimmy Carter and G.W. Bush levels before he leaves office.

Heh Amazing spin.

1. Apparently the economy was in worse shape than they thought after 8 years of republican sponsored looting... you would have done differently than the Dems, how, exactly?

2. The currently enacted healthcare legislation is essentially what repubs proposed in 1993, and very similar to Romneycare as practiced in Massachusetts. Again, what would repubs have done differently? Nothing, obviously, which was what the did when they were in control of both the legislative and executive branches.

3. The oil spill? Oh, please. The govt has neither the equipment or the expertise to do much more than wring their hands on the sidelines. His mistake was giving in at all to the "drill, baby, drill" sentiment in the first place. Or are you saying the govt should be prepared to take over when private industry screws up, maintain a fleet of ships and equipment to deal with oil spills? Not very consistent from a smaller govt advocate...

4. Mosque in lower Manhattan? He offered that Righties are using it as a distraction from their own failures and lack of honest ideas, preying on fear and xenophobia... no surprises there, that's for sure...

Righties have gotten really good at raving about what they're against- it's so easy. Tell us what you're for, give the electorate a reason to vote for repubs, what you'll do differently than you did while crashing the economy in the first place... staging elective wars and mucking up the occupation afterwards... and promoting the greatest transfer of wealth and income to the tippy-top in the history of finance.

Speak up, tell us about it, or just slink away like Spidey when challenged to do the same...

 

[brencat]

Both sides always make this mistake. The average american voter is moderate but whenever one side gets elected it tries to shove its policies down everyone's throat.

This ^^

I've said it before and I'll say it again, divided govt is the only way to go. We may get less done, and what we get done might be too incremental for some of you, but it's the only way to keep the extremists in both parties under control. If these fvckers won't compromise or work together, it's better for the country to have gridlock in my view, as opposed to what's happened under full Republican control and now under full Democrat control.

 

[Jhhnn]

This ^^

I've said it before and I'll say it again, divided govt is the only way to go. We may get less done, and what we get done might be too incremental for some of you, but it's the only way to keep the extremists in both parties under control. If these fvckers won't compromise or work together, it's better for the country to have gridlock in my view, as opposed to what's happened under full Republican control and now under full Democrat control.

You're either fooling yourself or trying to fool the rest of us. 41 Senatorial republicans have already achieved gridlock & paralysis in defense of the extreme policies enacted when they held both the executive and legislative branches of govt. Only a very few breakaway members of the repub caucus have allowed anything to get done.

 

[nick1985]

You're either fooling yourself or trying to fool the rest of us. 41 Senatorial republicans have already achieved gridlock & paralysis in defense of the extreme policies enacted when they held both the executive and legislative branches of govt. Only a very few breakaway members of the repub caucus have allowed anything to get done.

They are blocking unpopular legislation. Obama's approval ratings are in the dumps. Most Americans disagree with his positions on many issues. Gridlock against his agenda is considered a good thing by most. Thats why they will gain seats in the senate and take back the house.

You approve of Obama, you are in the minority right now.

 

[Red Dawn]

They are blocking unpopular legislation. Obama's approval ratings are in the dumps. Most Americans disagree with his positions on many issues. Gridlock against his agenda is considered a good thing by most. Thats why they will gain seats in the senate and take back the house.

You approve of Obama, you are in the minority right now.

True but if you approve of the Republicans you are also in the minority. They are not the solution as they haven't changed from when they were in power and we are after all reaping the seeds they sown..

 

[nick1985]

True but if you approve of the Republicans you are also in the minority. They are not the solution as they haven't changed from when they were in power and we are after all reaping the seeds they sown..

Not saying I do approve, they have done their share of screwing up. I'm saying that these liberal die-hards on these boards that say all the Republicans do is gridlock Washington and they are confused why they are dominating the elections this fall are fucking morons. Its because Obama's agenda is very unpopular and most people want to stop it. They are blinded by their ideology and dont see it though. Its easy to see why dems will get hammered in November.

 

[Red Dawn]

Not saying I do approve, they have done their share of screwing up. I'm saying that these liberal die-hards on these boards that say all the Republicans do is gridlock Washington and they are confused why they are dominating the elections this fall are fucking morons. Its because Obama's agenda is very unpopular and most people want to stop it. They are blinded by their ideology and dont see it though. Its easy to see why dems will get hammered in November.

Well maybe a Republican controlled house won't be as destructive as it was when they had a Republican in the White House but you have to admit when they did they really fucked the country over bad.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You're either fooling yourself or trying to fool the rest of us. 41 Senatorial republicans have already achieved gridlock & paralysis in defense of the extreme policies enacted when they held both the executive and legislative branches of govt. Only a very few breakaway members of the repub caucus have allowed anything to get done.

So who are the Republican with the superpowers that made Obama want to expand Gitmo policies into Afghanistan? Was it Super Dick that mind controlled him into wanting to confine people forever without being charged? That's very neocon of Obama. Hey how about pursuing the crap that got us into Iraq that the Dems were bitching about but now quietly swept under the rug?

What idiocy possessed the administration so they forgot they have this little thing called a navy complete with support and the ability to work in deep water?

We had to deal with Republican idiocy too long to deal with dimwit Dems and their sycophants.

 

[nick1985]

Well maybe a Republican controlled house won't be as destructive as it was when they had a Republican in the White House but you have to admit when they did they really fucked the country over bad.

Bad policies, including too much spending. Sure.

But the average person now sees the Obama whitehouse and Democrat Congress as big spenders running up the deficit, full of false campaign promises, failed stimulus, unpopular position on the mosque and immigration, and not to mention the healthcare bill that was and still is unpopular.

Add all that up and most people are ticked off and do not like the direction we are headed in. The die-hard lefties here like jhnn sandorski jpeyton craig senseamp lemon law and a few others cant see this. They cant figure out why people are so stupid as to want a republican congress now. They must be idiots! And bigots too! lol, its so easy to see you have to be a moron not to see it. Every major position and issue that has come up in the last 2 years Obama has been on the wrong side.

Obamas approval ratings are lower than they were at any time during George Bush's 1st term. Think about that.


You lefties can spin these November elections all you want. MSNBC already does. They say that its an "anti-incumbent" wave. Its not anti-democrat...no. Its "anti-incumbet". I think that will be their mantra after they lose the house. It was the "anti-incumbent wave"! It couldn't be Obamas unpopular position on EVERYTHING over the last 2 years. No, it must just be the voters dont like incumbents. Lets bury our heads in the sand and keep trucking forward with this agenda for the next 2 years.

This is a 1 term president unless he moves towards the center (not likely, Obama is an idealogue uncabable of bending) or the Republicans nominate sarah palin.

 

[Thump553]

Rasmussen. Enough said, they are the Fox News of polling.

 

[nick1985]

Rasmussen. Enough said, they are the Fox News of polling.

Keep that head in the sand. Democrats will lose the house in November. You will be lucky to keep the Senate.

Fingers in ears, LALALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU VOTERS!!!

http://www.electionprojection.com/index.php

 

[ProfJohn]

Heh Amazing spin.

1. Apparently the economy was in worse shape than they thought after 8 years of republican sponsored looting... you would have done differently than the Dems, how, exactly?

2. The currently enacted healthcare legislation is essentially what repubs proposed in 1993, and very similar to Romneycare as practiced in Massachusetts. Again, what would repubs have done differently? Nothing, obviously, which was what the did when they were in control of both the legislative and executive branches.

3. The oil spill? Oh, please. The govt has neither the equipment or the expertise to do much more than wring their hands on the sidelines. His mistake was giving in at all to the "drill, baby, drill" sentiment in the first place. Or are you saying the govt should be prepared to take over when private industry screws up, maintain a fleet of ships and equipment to deal with oil spills? Not very consistent from a smaller govt advocate...

4. Mosque in lower Manhattan? He offered that Righties are using it as a distraction from their own failures and lack of honest ideas, preying on fear and xenophobia... no surprises there, that's for sure...

Righties have gotten really good at raving about what they're against- it's so easy. Tell us what you're for, give the electorate a reason to vote for repubs, what you'll do differently than you did while crashing the economy in the first place... staging elective wars and mucking up the occupation afterwards... and promoting the greatest transfer of wealth and income to the tippy-top in the history of finance.

Speak up, tell us about it, or just slink away like Spidey when challenged to do the same...

Speaking of spin...

Your whole post is just one big long excuse for Obama's failures.

 

[spidey07]

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Speak up, tell us about it, or just slink away like Spidey when challenged to do the same...

The whole goal is to stop obama and his radical policies that the majority of the country reject. Did you not see the OP? Stop him at all costs. That is the platform and it's a winning one. Every candidate that he touches is a kiss of death and the surefire way to defeat democrats this november is to point out how your opponent sides with Obama and voted for his unpopular and harmful initiatives (stimulus, healthcare, TARP takeovers, increasing government takeover of private industries by law (craptastic financial reform), bailing out thsoe that can't pay their mortgage, extending unemployment with deficit, etc).

This is what the country wants and desperately needs is to stop obama and his ruining of our economy, our liberty, and out of control spending and tax increases.

teabagtag

 

[SammyJr]

This is a 1 term president unless he moves towards the center (not likely, Obama is an idealogue uncabable of bending) or the Republicans nominate sarah palin.

I wish Obama would move towards the center. The continuation of the Wars, the corporate whore Romneycare bill, and the inattention to the offshoring problem puts him squarely in the right wing. Obviously, he's not a Palin level wingnut, but he's a center-right corporatist President.