$55 too much for a flashlight

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DrPizza

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Originally posted by: TallBill
For me its because my surefire fits in my pocket. It goes on every mission with me and you never know when you need a flashlight. And when you do, it needs to be bright.

I also keep it in my nightstand at home, way more usefull there as well then something big and clunky.

That makes sense, especially in your case. But it just doesn't seem like the best solution for most people.
 

imported_Imp

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Not really. I have a $50 LED headlamp at home. I use it a few times a week, brought it to 'camp' and it is still running on the original 3 AAA batteries to this day. Love the size and fit of it too. It's small enough to fit in the palm of my hand and bright enough to light up a room (ok, illuminate). I also have a $10 Maglite Solitaire; I took the batteries out of that long ago. You pay for quality. If you want expensive, check out the Surefire ones that were mentioned. About $150-$300 or so a pop, police and military use them, heavy duty and suppose to work great.
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: TallBill
For me its because my surefire fits in my pocket. It goes on every mission with me and you never know when you need a flashlight. And when you do, it needs to be bright.

I also keep it in my nightstand at home, way more usefull there as well then something big and clunky.

That makes sense, especially in your case. But it just doesn't seem like the best solution for most people.

When I was working with my dad to replace the electrical wiring in his house, I had my Surefire L2 with me (which I also used while working at base security in the Navy), and it was amazingly useful. Not only did it light up the area beneath the house for us to work, but the light was bright enough to light up the area to ensure we weren't in the area of snakes, etc.
 

AlgaeEater

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Got my Jetbeam MkII X Cree for $49. Best EDC I have to date.

Some people don't value flashlights because they have no need for them in their environment. It's apples and oranges, because I feel putting really expensive rims on your car tires a big waste of money, and vice versa when people ask about my insanely bright little flashlight.
 

antillean

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Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
I spent $172 on a Surefire L2, and it was worth every penny. A good flashlight is hard to put a limiting value on.

How much do you use it??
 

AlgaeEater

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
I still don't quite understand why you'd pay so much for a flashlight... i.e. I don't know where such a high value comes from (other than the name.)

How do these compare to a 1 or 2 million candlepower cordless rechargeable spotlight that can be purchased for about the same price or less? Last week while I was out on the lake, my relatives decided to play with me from shore about 1/4 mile away; the light was blinding at that distance. It was a cheap rechargeable spotlight.

Spotlighters are bright, but they weigh a lot and are usually temporary mounts on boats or vehicles. Their run time is also very short unless it's being direct driven (Plugged in), and rarely do models have DD units because the bulb inside couldn't handle exposed usage.

A high quality EDC or hand pocket light outputs about 1/3 of a 2 million candle power flashlight in the palm of your hand literally. The drawback however is that these flashlights use unstable and highly dangerous Li-ion 3.6 - 4.2 volt cells that always run at full voltage. (Unlike a standard alkaline 1.5v, which usually runs at 1.2 - 1.35)

I can't explain more than without visuals. Once you see a high quality EDC, you'll be like "Oh shit, I gotta have one" and there's really nothing else to say about it.
 

lokiju

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Thats cheap compared to whats out there.


I got my Dad a $200 flashlight that he wanted as a gift.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: HiTek21

Where do you get 16 CR123A's for $31?

BatteryStation is where I always buy mine (BatteryStation brand).
AmondoTech is another place (Titanium brand or whatever their store brand is called).

There is a thread over on Candlepowerforums comparing capacity of CR123A brands.

Originally posted by: OS
the one i got was inova xo3, this thing is brighter than my 6D cell mag light, but it uses those expensive 123 batteries. i'm not sure i can afford to actually use this light, lol.

as for the jokes, some of you guys could atleast be original. :p

$1 apiece isn't that expensive (BatteryStation's discounted price for members of Candlepowerforums)
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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Originally posted by: antillean
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
I spent $172 on a Surefire L2, and it was worth every penny. A good flashlight is hard to put a limiting value on.

How much do you use it??

Before it was stolen, a lot. I used it at my dad's when redoing the electric, and it was incredibly useful then. I used it at work when I was in the Navy doing base security. I have made mention to my wife about getting another one, and she doesn't mind. She scoffed when I first bought it, because it was so expensive, but she has come to appreciate it as well.
 

aceO07

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If you go camping, hiking or often in situations where you are in dark environments then you learn to value the light you can bring. This is especially true if you see how much brighter flashlights can be compared to a maglite. I would rather take my flashlight than lug around a maglite 3d when I go camping. Mine would still be brighter, smaller and run for longer.

edit: The only disadvantage is that I cannot use it as a bat.
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: tasmanian
You got ripped off. Any flashlight from target is gonna suck.

You're wrong.

1. Inova flashlights are very well-built flashlights.
2. The River Rock brand flashlights they sell at Target have gotten praise over at candlepowerforums for being inexpensive, good quality flashlights
3. The Brinkman Maxfire LX that they sell at Target is almost an exact replica of the Surefire G2 for half the price.

Target sells better flashlights than almost any other B&M store.

Oh crap!!! Pz0wnd
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: tasmanian
You got ripped off. Any flashlight from target is gonna suck.

You're wrong.

1. Inova flashlights are very well-built flashlights.
2. The River Rock brand flashlights they sell at Target have gotten praise over at candlepowerforums for being inexpensive, good quality flashlights
3. The Brinkman Maxfire LX that they sell at Target is almost an exact replica of the Surefire G2 for half the price.

Target sells better flashlights than almost any other B&M store.

Oh crap!!! Pz0wnd

Hah... ok... :confused: My intention wasn't to Pz0wned him, just to make him aware of what's out there. ;) Many people think Target just sells cheap crap like Walmart, but they also sell a lot of good quality stuff.


Pz0wned is a registered trademark of Pizza Hut.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: antillean
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
I spent $172 on a Surefire L2, and it was worth every penny. A good flashlight is hard to put a limiting value on.

How much do you use it??

Carry a flashlight on you every day and you'll realize how useful they can be. Same with knives. You don't realize how much you use it until you have it on you.

I hate summer - no room in my pockets for a good flashlight. During the fall, winter and spring I always have one in my jacket pocket. I also have them in my car and my wife's car, and one in just about every room of the house. Even the wife has recognized their usefulness.
 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
It's the perfect price for a good FleshLight though.

I WON! I bet 4 replies before someone mentioned fleshlight.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Originally posted by: jpeyton
When you buy retail, you always overpay.
When you fill up gas, you're "overpaying" too.
Then don't buy gas.
Then don't buy anything at all. My point is that no matter what you buy, based on the statement you made, anything at all is "overpaying" because every level of production, manufacturing, shipping, etc. all has profit margins. The retailer could sell you something at his purchase price, probably below what many of them define as "cost," and while you might be happy, in reality, 50 different people made a profit except the end retailer. If you paid him with a CC, he probably lost a little bit on the whole thing, but maybe the opportunity cost is worth it.

Also, purchasing things online versus "retail" doesn't change anything, everyone still has their profit margins, that won't ever change. In today's market, it comes down to what the public is willing to pay for an item really, businesses charge what a product is worth, not what they "need" to charge or something.

On the whole, we all end up paying market price, and that's how you should judge things. Yes, some products have a different retail profit margin, but you'll find that on ANY quality/specialty item.

I'll stop here because I've probably gone off on a different topic than what you were discussing, but you need to post more information for a bold statement like that.

Originally posted by: vshah
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: mugs
$55 is way too much for a flashlight. The most I've ever paid was $48.

:thumbsup: The cheaper ones last as long too.
As a Google employee, I feel you should know that there is a small calculator tool in the search engine. 55 minus 48 will yield a result of $7.

Unfortunately, there isn't a feature for common sense, but most people usually have at least a small amount. If you had a little, you'd see that it's not that big of a price difference.

Edit: I'm not a Google employee, but pcslookout apparently claims that he was just given a job offer from them, and it doesn't make sense at all. I was referring to him being the google employee.

umm...i think they were being sarcastic?
Neither was - mugs knows what he's talking about and threw in some irony, but pcslookout was serious, search for his recent google offer thread, you'll find links to 30 or 40 other stupid posts of his.
 

imported_Imp

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: antillean
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
I spent $172 on a Surefire L2, and it was worth every penny. A good flashlight is hard to put a limiting value on.

How much do you use it??

Carry a flashlight on you every day and you'll realize how useful they can be. Same with knives. You don't realize how much you use it until you have it on you.

I hate summer - no room in my pockets for a good flashlight. During the fall, winter and spring I always have one in my jacket pocket. I also have them in my car and my wife's car, and one in just about every room of the house. Even the wife has recognized their usefulness.

True. I love my $15 Swiss army knife I got a year ago. It's one of the cheaper ones, but I'm using it almost daily. Flashlight not so much, and I just won't put mine in my bag for it to be damaged/stolen.
 

pradeep1

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A real flashlight that you will be using as a tool on a regular basis is worth more, IMHO, than $55.00. Of course, this is from a confessed flashaholic. If you must rely on your gear to keep you alive (survival, military, police, etc.) then yes, $55 is not too much.



 

OS

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: tasmanian
You got ripped off. Any flashlight from target is gonna suck.

You're wrong.

1. Inova flashlights are very well-built flashlights.
2. The River Rock brand flashlights they sell at Target have gotten praise over at candlepowerforums for being inexpensive, good quality flashlights
3. The Brinkman Maxfire LX that they sell at Target is almost an exact replica of the Surefire G2 for half the price.

Target sells better flashlights than almost any other B&M store.


btw thx for the heads up about the maxfire, i saw this at target later and it was price cut down to $13, I picked up one to keep in my car.
 

0roo0roo

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there are plenty of very expensive lights.
flashlights are so nice these days with constant improvement in led tech
flashlights used to suck so bad....