52% of Americans Likely to Vote for Rodham Clinton

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aidanjm

Lifer
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Originally posted by: her209
Oh noes... the Democrats have sunk so low that they need to pander to women to get votes.

I don't know if this is humor, but it is actually a very sexist comment.
 

Stunt

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Also, for those doubting the feasibility of this ticket....

As of March 31st of this year he had $7 million of available cash in his campaign fund. Hillary leads the pack with $8.7 million.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Stunt
I've got the guy for you Red Dawn:

Evan Bayh
Birch Evans "Evan" Bayh III (born December 26, 1955) is an American politician who has served as a U.S. Senator from Indiana since 1999 and is a member of the Democratic Party.

He served two terms as the governor of Indiana, from 1989 to 1997. His administration was considered cautious but successful (even by Republicans in the state), creating a large state surplus and permitting him to cut taxes.

Bayh is also considered to be a possible 2008 Presidential nominee due to his appeal to "red state" voters and his perceived electability. In the 2004 election he received more votes in Indiana than President Bush, a feat unheard of by a democrat in a state as conservative as Indiana. Bayh's moderate appeal will be a driving force in his electability with many critics already claiming Hillary Clinton as too liberal and polarizing, a sure defeat for the 2008 general election. Many pundits and politcos see a very electable team in Evan Bayh and New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson. A Bayh-Richardson ticket would capitalize on the Midwest and Southwest, both essential for Democratic victory. Furthermore Richardson, a Hispanic, would help bring back the very strong Democratic support of the Latino population.

Bayh-Richardson 2008!! :D
Well let's see who the Republicans are running. I'm an Independant so I will probably choose the the lessor of two evils in 2008.
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Well let's see who the Republicans are running. I'm an Independant so I will probably choose the the lessor of two evils in 2008.
I'm going to post this in another thread...it's off topic, worth discussing.
 

PatboyX

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Stunt
I've got the guy for you Red Dawn:

Evan Bayh
Birch Evans "Evan" Bayh III (born December 26, 1955) is an American politician who has served as a U.S. Senator from Indiana since 1999 and is a member of the Democratic Party.

He served two terms as the governor of Indiana, from 1989 to 1997. His administration was considered cautious but successful (even by Republicans in the state), creating a large state surplus and permitting him to cut taxes.

Bayh is also considered to be a possible 2008 Presidential nominee due to his appeal to "red state" voters and his perceived electability. In the 2004 election he received more votes in Indiana than President Bush, a feat unheard of by a democrat in a state as conservative as Indiana. Bayh's moderate appeal will be a driving force in his electability with many critics already claiming Hillary Clinton as too liberal and polarizing, a sure defeat for the 2008 general election. Many pundits and politcos see a very electable team in Evan Bayh and New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson. A Bayh-Richardson ticket would capitalize on the Midwest and Southwest, both essential for Democratic victory. Furthermore Richardson, a Hispanic, would help bring back the very strong Democratic support of the Latino population.

Bayh-Richardson 2008!! :D
Well let's see who the Republicans are running. I'm an Independant so I will probably choose the the lessor of two evils in 2008.

ive still got a little love for mccain, but i doubt he will go for it.
 

aidanjm

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Well let's see who the Republicans are running. I'm an Independant so I will probably choose the the lessor of two evils in 2008.

Be a man, and vote for Hillary.
 

aidanjm

Lifer
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Originally posted by: PatboyX
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Stunt
I've got the guy for you Red Dawn:

Evan Bayh
Birch Evans "Evan" Bayh III (born December 26, 1955) is an American politician who has served as a U.S. Senator from Indiana since 1999 and is a member of the Democratic Party.

He served two terms as the governor of Indiana, from 1989 to 1997. His administration was considered cautious but successful (even by Republicans in the state), creating a large state surplus and permitting him to cut taxes.

Bayh is also considered to be a possible 2008 Presidential nominee due to his appeal to "red state" voters and his perceived electability. In the 2004 election he received more votes in Indiana than President Bush, a feat unheard of by a democrat in a state as conservative as Indiana. Bayh's moderate appeal will be a driving force in his electability with many critics already claiming Hillary Clinton as too liberal and polarizing, a sure defeat for the 2008 general election. Many pundits and politcos see a very electable team in Evan Bayh and New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson. A Bayh-Richardson ticket would capitalize on the Midwest and Southwest, both essential for Democratic victory. Furthermore Richardson, a Hispanic, would help bring back the very strong Democratic support of the Latino population.

Bayh-Richardson 2008!! :D
Well let's see who the Republicans are running. I'm an Independant so I will probably choose the the lessor of two evils in 2008.

ive still got a little love for mccain, but i doubt he will go for it.

too old, too ugly
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Well let's see who the Republicans are running. I'm an Independant so I will probably choose the the lessor of two evils in 2008.

Be a man, and vote for Hillary.
Imagine that, a Gay Aussie telling me to be a man(not that there's anything wrong with that). Can you say Ironic?

 

nageov3t

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people say she has no qualifications, but looking back, I remember the general consensus is that she was running the White House between 1992 - 2000 ;)

I wouldn't mind the Clintons in the White House again. they did pretty well in their first two terms.
 

aidanjm

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Well let's see who the Republicans are running. I'm an Independant so I will probably choose the the lessor of two evils in 2008.

Be a man, and vote for Hillary.
Imagine that, a Gay Aussie telling me to be a man(not that there's anything wrong with that). Can you say Ironic?

I see no irony. what is the irony?
 

aidanjm

Lifer
Aug 9, 2004
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Originally posted by: loki8481
people say she has no qualifications, but looking back, I remember the general consensus is that she was running the White House between 1992 - 2000 ;)

I wouldn't mind the Clintons in the White House again. they did pretty well in their first two terms.

2 for the price of 1, gotta love that. and the rest of the world wil heave a sigh of relief, people will be able to relax and not worry what country will be invaded next, etc.
 

cKGunslinger

Lifer
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Originally posted by: aidanjm
My guess is that the people who seek to destroy her will experience a very public and embarrassing loss of credibility. The thing is, mainstream Americans actually like & respect Hillary. If you set out to "destroy" her, people won't take to kindly to it.

Mainstream Americans like and respect Hillary? :confused:

Let me suggest this: I can't envision anyone who voted for Bush during the last election voting for Hillary in the next (as long as the Rep candidate is not a baby-eating satanist.) If that hold's true, she'd have to drum up support from a *lot* more of the non-voting Democrats. Are Hillary and the Dems that charismatic? I'm not convinced..
 

cKGunslinger

Lifer
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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: her209
Oh noes... the Democrats have sunk so low that they need to pander to women to get votes.

I don't know if this is humor, but it is actually a very sexist comment.

That's not a sexist comment. Stupid if sincere, yes - but not sexist.
 

Vic

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Wow... I'd vote for Jeb before I would vote for Billary. And considering I already feel filthy from having voted for Kerry, that is saying A LOT.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Vic
Wow... I'd vote for Jeb before I would vote for Billary. And considering I already feel filthy from having voted for Kerry, that is saying A LOT.
Not me, it would be to much like a coronation than an election.
 

Kerouactivist

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I would vote for her before I would vote for any republican I can think of....

I'm hoping that bill richardson runs personally..

He seems like a really good guy.
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Vic
Wow... I'd vote for Jeb before I would vote for Billary. And considering I already feel filthy from having voted for Kerry, that is saying A LOT.
Not me, it would be to much like a coronation than an election.
Coronation? hah yeah right. If Jeb won an election after this Bush, props to him, damn that'd be a challenge.

Most unpopular second term president ever. It was obvious the problem was Kerry last election, not that the Bush's have something special to offer.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Vic
Wow... I'd vote for Jeb before I would vote for Billary. And considering I already feel filthy from having voted for Kerry, that is saying A LOT.
Not me, it would be to much like a coronation than an election.
Coronation? hah yeah right. If Jeb won an election after this Bush, props to him, damn that'd be a challenge.

Most unpopular second term president ever. It was obvious the problem was Kerry last election, not that the Bush's have something special to offer.
Oh, no question. Kerry was the wrong man running the wrong campaign. It was only close because GW was already unpopular. I can't believe the Dems thought they could win on the "Anybody but Bush" campaign alone...
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Vic
Wow... I'd vote for Jeb before I would vote for Billary. And considering I already feel filthy from having voted for Kerry, that is saying A LOT.
Not me, it would be to much like a coronation than an election.
Coronation? hah yeah right. If Jeb won an election after this Bush, props to him, damn that'd be a challenge.

Most unpopular second term president ever. It was obvious the problem was Kerry last election, not that the Bush's have something special to offer.
Oh, no question. Kerry was the wrong man running the wrong campaign. It was only close because GW was already unpopular. I can't believe the Dems thought they could win on the "Anybody but Bush" campaign alone...
Yet they almost did!
 

irwincur

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The push polling begins. I expect to see a lot of these media tainted polls before 2008. It is like the new trend in the media is to launch push polls, act like they are real, and then write about them. Funny how when real questions are used, these things are usually flipped. Like the recent ones that show that there is actually a lot of support for SS reform. Just matters how you phrase the questions.

This was probably: Would you vote for Hillary if she was running against Hitler?
 

irwincur

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God, if Hillary won, the press would spooge all over the country - it would take months to clean up. The Bill would spooge all over the WH - because he would be unemployed and lookin' for action.

Can't wait for the out and out bias that starts in about mid 2006. They are going to make her into the second coming.
 

EatSpam

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Originally posted by: bNeta86
Just what we need - a woman(I wasnt a fan of the man either) who cant even keep her marraige under control in the whitehouse.

/puke

What does her marriage have to do with her ability to be a good president? :confused:
 

EatSpam

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Stunt
...it's no wonder the GOP is scared of her.

The GOP isn't scared of her. She, like Dean was, easy to pin down as a liberal and out of touch. But hey - bring her on:p

CsG

Dean didn't lose because he has "too liberal." He lost because of the ABC scream. If anything Kerry was far more liberal.
 

cKGunslinger

Lifer
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Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: bNeta86
Just what we need - a woman(I wasnt a fan of the man either) who cant even keep her marraige under control in the whitehouse.

/puke

What does her marriage have to do with her ability to be a good president? :confused:
Marriage and family is a rather interesting microcosm of the world. You have economics, domestic relations, foreign relations, education, diplomacy, etc.

I don't think you can make a 1-to-1 correlation between the two, but suggesting they are totally unrelated may not be truthful. either.