$516,000/year for a cop???

[ussfletcher]

Cops are paid enough in just the experience of authority that satiates their power hungry, egomaniac nature. They should get minimum wage.

 

[Wonderful Pork]

Here is the data for the #1 earner:

CITY RANK 1
DEPARTMENT NAME POLICE DEPARTMENT
EMPLOYEE NAME CHARLES KEOHANE
JOB CLASS DESCRIPTION DEPUTY CHIEF III (POLICE DEPARTMENT)
REG PAY $163,616.02
OVERTIME $177,755.94
OTHER PAY $174,746.53
TOTAL PAY $516,118.49
OVERTIME RANK 1

I'm curious as to what constitutes as "Other Pay"

 

[GaryJohnson]

Only 2 people made above 400k and both are DEPUTY CHIEF's. That and they were the number 1 and 2 in overtime work.

So yea these are not patrolmen that just started.

33%+ of the #1 guys pay was from retiring and cashing out vacation pay too. He might have worked 60+ hours a week for 30 years without taking any significant vacation or sick leave.

 

[GaryJohnson]

Here is the data for the #1 earner:


I'm curious as to what constitutes as "Other Pay"

"other pay," which can include compensation for special working conditions or one-time pay-outs of unused vacation and sick leave to employees leaving the city

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...evPageID=2&cpipage=1&CPIsortType=&CPIorderBy=

Top earner Charles Keohane, a former deputy police chief who earned $516,118, retired last year, cashing out stored-up vacation, sick days and comp time.

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_14961033

 

[GeneValgene]

i'm ok with cops makign 125-250K if their overtime is actual time out of the office and patrolling the streets

 

[0roo0roo]

33%+ of the #1 guys pay was from retiring and cashing out vacation pay too. He might have worked 60+ hours a week for 30 years without taking any significant vacation or sick leave.

yea maybe true, but most private sector jobs don't give you that kinda bonus for just not using sick days.

 

[JD50]

yea maybe true, but most private sector jobs don't give you that kinda bonus for just not using sick days.

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You don't get paid for your unused personal time when you leave your job?

 

[ProfJohn]

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You don't get paid for your unused personal time when you leave your job?

Most jobs only pay you for unused vacation time.

Also, most companies require you to use that vacation time every year, or cash it out that year and not save it from year to year.

 

[JD50]

Most jobs only pay you for unused vacation time.

Also, most companies require you to use that vacation time every year, or cash it out that year and not save it from year to year.

A lot of jobs just have personal time, vacation and sick leave combined. I've always been paid out for unused personal time.

 

[Strk]

Most jobs only pay you for unused vacation time.

Also, most companies require you to use that vacation time every year, or cash it out that year and not save it from year to year.

When I've worked jobs that have separated personal/sick time and vacation time, you would have to put in for the personal/sick time before you leave or else you forfeit it. That doesn't mean you couldn't just fill out the paperwork for it and just have it cashed in while you were working though.

 

[illusion88]

I'm leaving my current job and my sick pay is just going to vanish. My unused vacation pay is coming on an off cycle check.

 

[Merithynos]

They are top level administrators, and you're also talking about a ton of overtime.

Administrators in any other place but the public sector are exempt employees and don't receive overtime.

 

[eldorado99]

Come on man, wheres the /rant tag?

 

[Cuda1447]

As much as the OP is an idiot... I can't believe people are disagreeing with him. Overtime or not, 500k?!? Really? How much fucking overtime did the guy work. The best of the best should be making in the 100's, I would think. Anything over 200k is getting pretty substantial and 500k is just absurd. I would rather have 5 well paid cops at 100k than 1 overpaid cop at 500k.

 

[meltdown75]

whambulance has been dispatched. that's crazy money though, wtf.

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

$500,000 per year is outrageous.

Let's assume that this cop worked EVERY HOUR of every day without ever taking any time off...not even to sleep.

Total hours per year: 8,760

Regular Hours: 2080
Overtime Hours: 6680

Now let's assume his pay is something ridiculous, especially for a job like being a cop. Did you know that a lot of potential police officers are screened out due to high intelligence? They know the super smart ones will get bored and eventually quit. It isn't all gun fights and kicking in doors. Anyhow:

Rate of pay: $40/hour

Regular pay: $83,200
Overtime pay: $400,800

Total compensation: $484,000 for the year. And that is making $40/hour and literally working every hour of every day for an entire year.

That is fucking ridiculous and he should be replaced with 7 cops that each make $70,000 per year and the same cost to the tax payer. 7 cops is better than 1 cop.

 

[meltdown75]

relevant article

http://www.beyondchron.org/news/index.php?itemid=8057

 

[JD50]

Administrators in any other place but the public sector are exempt employees and don't receive overtime.

Right, so the issue here is not "ZOMG COPS R OVERPAID!!!", the issue is the way the government is paying their employees. This isn't specific to police, some people just use any excuse to bash cops.

 

[JD50]

$500,000 per year is outrageous.

Let's assume that this cop worked EVERY HOUR of every day without ever taking any time off...not even to sleep.

Total hours per year: 8,760

Regular Hours: 2080
Overtime Hours: 6680

Now let's assume his pay is something ridiculous, especially for a job like being a cop. Did you know that a lot of potential police officers are screened out do to high intelligence? They know the super smart ones will get bored and eventually quit. It isn't all gun fights and kicking in doors. Anyhow:

Rate of pay: $40/hour

Regular pay: $83,200
Overtime pay: $400,800

Total compensation: $484,000 for the year. And that is making $40/hour and literally working every hour of every day for an entire year.

That is fucking ridiculous and he should be replaced with 7 cops that each make $70,000 per year and the same cost to the tax payer. 7 cops is better than 1 cop.

Link?

 

[Vette73]

Link?

By a lot he means 1 small agency that would not let 1 guy in.

 

[preslove]

If they earn it there is probably a good reason.

Yeah, police unions.

 

[oogabooga]

By a lot he means 1 small agency that would not let 1 guy in.

and by 1 small agency 1 guy he means the one he applied to.

They obviously didn't "do" to the fact he was too smart.

 

[JD50]

and by 1 small agency 1 guy he means the one he applied to.

They obviously didn't "do" to the fact he was too smart.

lol

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

Link?

No it isn't me. Nothing wrong with being a cop, but the fact is that you need to be smart enough to do the job, but not so smart you get bored with it. It isn't a policy for all police departments,and not all police departments give I.Q. tests, but it is nevertheless the case. Unfortunately "intelligence" isn't a protected class.

The rationale is that they train you, spend a lot of money on you, and it takes a long time to work your way up. Highly intelligent people will get bored with sitting in their car all day, driving around and writing tickets for parking illegally.

http://nyletterpress.wordpress.com/2008/02/29/police-reject-candidate-for-being-too-intelligent/

(more on that same story and the idea of not hiring intelligent people to begin with)
http://www.allbusiness.com/human-resources/employee-development/568635-1.html

 

[GaryJohnson]

Administrators in any other place but the public sector are exempt employees and don't receive overtime.

I'm a non-exempt administrator in the private sector who (sparingly) recieves OT, so I would have to disagree. Stupidity isn't limited to government.