51% Don't Want Second Term For President Obama

[werepossum]

In American politics it's not how many people want to see you elected/re-elected so much as it's how many people want to see the other guy elected/re-elected even less. (I say "the other guy" based on the number of forks sticking out of Bachmann.) It's a bad trend for Obama, but I'm still expecting him to win re-election. If a Pubby wins the business climate will improve, but I'm betting there won't be a huge difference either way.

To me it's kind of a trade-off. I hate the prospect of Obama naming another activist or two to SCOTUS, but on the other hand I fear the prospect of a triple Republican domination. The more power they have, the sooner Republicans forget about all that fiscal responsibility, limited government crap and get down to some serious spending. Republicans may spend less than the NEXT Democrats, but only from '95 - 2000 have they spent less than the PREVIOUS Democrats.

 

[Jhhnn]

You're not getting it either. His base doesn't want to vote for him (they'll stay home and not vote) and the rest of the country does NOT want him in office another 4 years and are highly motivated to keep him out of office. He's done.

So says a voice from somewhere deep down in the bunker o' denial.

You speak of enthusiasm, which is obviously a factor. What sort of enthusiasm will the religious right have for Romney? What sort of enthusiasm will moderates have for Perry?

You gotta run what you brung, and that's nothing that'll win.

And, uhh, if you think that having a Republican the big chair will actually do anything to improve the economy, at least the economy for the non-Rich, you're not thinking straight.

The pooch, she has been screwed by adherence to Republican ideals, and there's no way to un-screw her with more of the same. Which is really why Obama hasn't been more successful at it. He's more like the modern version of Hoover than FDR, more like an Eisenhower Republican than anything else.

 

[spidey07]

So says a voice from somewhere deep down in the bunker o' denial.

You speak of enthusiasm, which is obviously a factor. What sort of enthusiasm will the religious right have for Romney? What sort of enthusiasm will moderates have for Perry?

You gotta run what you brung, and that's nothing that'll win.

And, uhh, if you think that having a Republican the big chair will actually do anything to improve the economy, at least the economy for the non-Rich, you're not thinking straight.

The pooch, she has been screwed by adherence to Republican ideals, and there's no way to un-screw her with more of the same. Which is really why Obama hasn't been more successful at it. He's more like the modern version of Hoover than FDR, more like an Eisenhower Republican than anything else.

Thanks for proving my point. His base is unhappy with him, the independants don't like him and regular Americans downright hate him.

I hear you liberal, you've given up. And that is a wonderful thing. Obama exposed your views and agenda and The People will do everything they can to stop him. Care to make a wager?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Thanks for proving my point. His base is unhappy with him, the independants don't like him and regular Americans downright hate him.

I hear you liberal, you've given up. And that is a wonderful thing. Obama exposed your views and agenda and The People will do everything they can to stop him. Care to make a wager?

Since when do you speak for the President's base, much less "independants" [sic]? I don't think you even know any "regular Americans," and you sure as hell don't speak for "the People."

Have you asked your wife what she thinks of your betting her government paycheck on things over which you have no control whatsoever?

 

[Jhhnn]

Thanks for proving my point. His base is unhappy with him, the independants don't like him and regular Americans downright hate him.

I hear you liberal, you've given up. And that is a wonderful thing. Obama exposed your views and agenda and The People will do everything they can to stop him. Care to make a wager?

I don't take money from the mentally incompetent.

The reasons that the Dem base are unhappy with Obama are that he's entirely too Republican-lite, and that's also the basis of dissatisfaction for independents, as well. We sure as hell aren't going to vote for real republicans as a rational alternative.

Unlike the 2010 midterms, nobody is staying home, other than some on the Right who really won't have anybody they like to vote *for*. Romney has flipflopped so many times on so many issues that it defines him entirely, meaning nobody actually trusts him, and Perry is entirely too goofy to attract support from anybody other than you and your fellow travelers.

Who else do Repubs have to offer? Who can strike a balance that'll obtain the nomination from the rabid primary voter base and still appeal to centrists? If you can't come up with a name, you can't come up with a winner.

 

[zinfamous]

You're not getting it, no matter who he runs against he is going to lose. Anybody but obama will win. He is unelectable and outright hated by this country.

pro tip: the fairy tales that you read to your children at night are not real.

 

[zinfamous]

You're not getting it either. His base doesn't want to vote for him (they'll stay home and not vote) and the rest of the country does NOT want him in office another 4 years and are highly motivated to keep him out of office. He's done.

who told you his base doesn't want to vote for him?

raptor jesus?

wtf man. I'm calling your local DA and informing him about the meth lab you have running in your garage.

 

[OrByte]

As soon as theGOP Challenger is named expect Obama to get a bounce.

 

[sportage]

51% don't want an Obama second term?
So which republican candidate is getting that 51% ???
Perry?
Batshit... I mean Bachmann?
Huntsman?
Romney?
Cain?
Pee Wee?
Uncle Fudd?
The Tidy Bowl man?
Which one of them... Remind me once again...?

This might help clear up your confusion:

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Ps.. almost forgot to add a smiley

 

[Ausm]

51% don't want an Obama second term?
So which republican candidate is getting that 51% ???
Perry?
Batshit... I mean Bachmann?
Huntsman?
Romney?
Cain?
Pee Wee?
Uncle Fudd?
The Tidy Bowl man?
Which one of them... Remind me once again...?

This might help clear up your confusion:



Ps.. almost forgot to add a smiley

LMFAO :biggrin:

 

[spidey07]

who told you his base doesn't want to vote for him?

raptor jesus?

wtf man. I'm calling your local DA and informing him about the meth lab you have running in your garage.

Any number of the polls that show waning support from the left. Then there's the polls that show independents strongly disapprove of him, then there's the polls that show people think America is headed in the wrong direction.

Ask yourself this - who is more motivated right now? People that want Obama in office or those that want him out?

Remember the historic 2010 elections where the entire platform was "stop obama" and see what happened? How about all the republican state level and governorships that assailed their democrat opponents of following this president in their campaigns? What happened there? Remember democrats wanting Obama no where near their campaigns because his support was the kiss of death? How about a republican winning a NY district that hasn't seen a republican in some 70+ years?

Who is more motivated - those that want this president to serve another term or those that don't?

You're not paying attention.

 

[werepossum]

Any number of the polls that show waning support from the left. Then there's the polls that show independents strongly disapprove of him, then there's the polls that show people think America is headed in the wrong direction.

Ask yourself this - who is more motivated right now? People that want Obama in office or those that want him out?

Remember the historic 2010 elections where the entire platform was "stop obama" and see what happened? How about all the republican state level and governorships that assailed their democrat opponents of following this president in their campaigns? What happened there? Remember democrats wanting Obama no where near their campaigns because his support was the kiss of death? How about a republican winning a NY district that hasn't seen a republican in some 70+ years?

Who is more motivated - those that want this president to serve another term or those that don't?

You're not paying attention.

People who want Obama out are definitely much more motivated and energized than those who want him kept in. It's still very difficult to unseat a sitting President though, and while right now the press has little use for Obama, I've no doubt they will rally around him once there is a an actual two-man race. Probably while shedding crocodile tears about how sorry they are that the Republicans didn't elect someone "suitable" or "electable".

 

[zsdersw]

The problem with believing in "hope and change", whether regarding Obama or whomever the GOP nominee will be, is that there's no guarantee of improvement over the predecessor.

Many may want Obama out in 2012, but are they sure they want who comes after him? If they answer "yes", I'll refer them to everyone who thought the same of Obama back in 2008.

 

[crownjules]

The problem with believing in "hope and change", whether regarding Obama or whomever the GOP nominee will be, is that there's no guarantee of improvement over the predecessor.

Many may want Obama out in 2012, but are they sure they want who comes after him? If they answer "yes", I'll refer them to everyone who thought the same of Obama back in 2008.

Exactly. Better the devil you know. Unless the Republicans can put forward a candidate that's actually inspiring or brings more to the table than "keep doing the same old things we've been doing for 3 decades".

 

[spidey07]

Exactly. Better the devil you know. Unless the Republicans can put forward a candidate that's actually inspiring or brings more to the table than "keep doing the same old things we've been doing for 3 decades".

Except the devil you know in Obama is NOT wanted to serve a second term as this poll shows. Right now, anybody will beat obama. Liberals keep saying it depends on the candidate, and yet ignore all the polls that show "anybody but obama" is what people want in the white house.

 

[Ausm]

who told you his base doesn't want to vote for him?

raptor jesus?

wtf man. I'm calling your local DA and informing him about the meth lab you have running in your garage.

You're arguing with a person who quite possibly may be clinically insane...I feel sorry for his Wife.

 

[fskimospy]

Except the devil you know in Obama is NOT wanted to serve a second term as this poll shows. Right now, anybody will beat obama. Liberals keep saying it depends on the candidate, and yet ignore all the polls that show "anybody but obama" is what people want in the white house.

'Libruls' say that it depends on the candidate because they live in reality, as opposed to the paranoid, schizophrenic fever dream that people such as yourself live in. I swear, just a few months of mental health treatment and some effective medication will help you so much.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html

 

[spidey07]

'Libruls' say that it depends on the candidate because they live in reality, as opposed to the paranoid, schizophrenic fever dream that people such as yourself live in. I swear, just a few months of mental health treatment and some effective medication will help you so much.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html

Thanks for proving my point. Any republican beats obama, it's at the bottom.

 

[zsdersw]

Except the devil you know in Obama is NOT wanted to serve a second term as this poll shows. Right now, anybody will beat obama. Liberals keep saying it depends on the candidate, and yet ignore all the polls that show "anybody but obama" is what people want in the white house.

People also wanted "anybody but Bush" in 2008, which manifested itself in avoiding McCain. And we all know how that turned out... not in America's favor.

 

[fskimospy]

Thanks for proving my point. Any republican beats obama, it's at the bottom.

Except of course that currently ZERO actual Republicans beat Obama.

Damn the luck of those Republicans, huh? I mean 100% of them beat Obama, but they somehow managed to dig up a group of about a dozen clowns, none of which beat him in the polls right now.

What are the odds!? Hahahaha.

 

[hal2kilo]

I think Obama would love to have Mr. Flip-Flop as his republican opponent, Romney's track record of job creation is pretty lousy.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/276684/mitt-romney-s-job-creation-record-katrina-trinko


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/14/994524/-Unaired-ad-from-1994-highlights-Romneys-Bain-record

Honestly, if Romney survives the primaries (and that is not a lock based upon his success in 2008 against Mr. CrankyPants), the Democrats will have a field day with him during the General campaign. Funny thing about politics the longer you are in it, the more skeletons you have in your closet and track record to counter anything you might say.

The Obama admin accurately (so far) predicted that Romney is who he has to run against. Believe me, they have massive plans to lay out Romney's history of duplicity and the business ventures he been involved in that canabalize companies, loot them of their assets and cause massive layoff's.

 

[zinfamous]

Any number of the polls that show waning support from the left. Then there's the polls that show independents strongly disapprove of him, then there's the polls that show people think America is headed in the wrong direction.

Ask yourself this - who is more motivated right now? People that want Obama in office or those that want him out?

Remember the historic 2010 elections where the entire platform was "stop obama" and see what happened? How about all the republican state level and governorships that assailed their democrat opponents of following this president in their campaigns? What happened there? Remember democrats wanting Obama no where near their campaigns because his support was the kiss of death? How about a republican winning a NY district that hasn't seen a republican in some 70+ years?

Who is more motivated - those that want this president to serve another term or those that don't?

You're not paying attention.

reminds me of the polls showing the right abandoning the entire republican party in droves--and certainly the vision of the republican party established by W, during 2008.

Thing is, and you have yet to address this, the general public is still far more disillusioned by what the republican party has to offer.

The mere fact that you think guys like Perry or Cain have a farts chance in heaven of winning support from independents is simply mind-boggling.

I think you might need your corpus collusum severed, your brain hemispheres don't seem to be communicating to each other as you can only see one side of reality (and it's one that doesn't exist)

 

[IGBT]

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashoo.htm

a picture is worth a thousand words.

 

[fskimospy]

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashoo.htm

a picture is worth a thousand words.

Ahahaha, you are attempting to compare a campaign rally held 8 days before the presidential election to an invitation only event this year. You could make the exact same picture with any president that has ever served.

Have the eco-KOOKS stolen your brain?

 

[IGBT]

Ahahaha, you are attempting to compare a campaign rally held 8 days before the presidential election to an invitation only event this year. You could make the exact same picture with any president that has ever served.

Have the eco-KOOKS stolen your brain?

doesn't look like the "invitees" showed up. More empty seats then attendees. Even the ecoKOOKS are distancing from "the obama".