51% Don't Want Second Term For President Obama

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Anarchist420

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It's not automatic victory for Romney. In fact, he probably won't even win: http://www.lewrockwell.com/celente/celente80.1.html

Obama's populist rhetoric is something that Romney doesn't have. Romney is even more pro-war than Obama is and people are sick of the wars. Even though he won't deliver on his 2008 campaign promises, enough people think that he will, so they're going to give him a 2nd chance. There will also probably be more hispanic voters this election.
 

ProfJohn

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One Sentence --- Dewey Defeats Truman.

Let's see how this shakes out November 2012.
Obama's approval rating is already lower than anything Truman had.

PLUS the economy was improving quickly before the election and unemployment was 4% and GDP growth in 1948 before the election was over 6%.


So there is your path to victory. Get GDP growth up to 6% and reduce unemployment to 4% and Obama wins... good luck.
 

Ausm

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It's not automatic victory for Romney. In fact, he probably won't even win: http://www.lewrockwell.com/celente/celente80.1.html

Obama's populist rhetoric is something that Romney doesn't have. Romney is even more pro-war than Obama is and people are sick of the wars. Even though he won't deliver on his 2008 campaign promises, enough people think that he will, so they're going to give him a 2nd chance. There will also probably be more hispanic voters this election.

You got that right!!
 

jman19

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That is a stupid amount of money to bet on something this uncertain unless you are wealthy enough not to care about $500. Wouldn't you rather donate the money to your favorite PAC or candidate, in order to actually influence the process?

Don't worry about Spidey, this will just come from his wife's money - the one she gets for being a government worker. Meanwhile, her loser, degenerate gambler husband is here railing against the gov't in one thread while bragging about getting some of that gov't cheese in another thread. He is nothing more than an amoral selfish maggot.
 
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theeedude

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You guys seem really excited to get the crew that ran the country in the 2000s back into power.
 

Spikesoldier

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dont worry he will throw out new entitlements or raise your food stamps and will win in a landslide victory.
 

Ausm

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Whether Obama or Romney wins, a liberal will be in the WH. I don't really get the fellatio over Obama losing, because healthcare will remain intact, without a doubt, with Romney in there. It's simply going to be another bad election for Republicans no matter how you slice it, that's why there's all this fuss over Christie and Perry; GOP is looking for anyone but another centrist-liberal Republican, but a centrist-liberal is the only electable candidate the GOP can field if they want to "win" the presidency.

In any case, when the economy improves further over the coming 9 months it'll be much harder for Repubs to get close. 50%+ still blame Bush, after all.

Spot on analogy;)
 

EagleKeeper

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The Republicans will have to mount a credible candidate.

Obama is providing the garage door opening; but something has to be driven through.
 

Anarchist420

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Obama's approval rating is already lower than anything Truman had.

PLUS the economy was improving quickly before the election and unemployment was 4% and GDP growth in 1948 before the election was over 6%.


So there is your path to victory. Get GDP growth up to 6% and reduce unemployment to 4% and Obama wins... good luck.
GDP means nothing and unemployment shouldn't count as much as the federal debt for which the Republicans are ultimately responsible. It would actually be best if GDP stayed the same or even went down, because then that would mean things would be cheaper while more would be being produced.
 

IGBT

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I'd rather see the obama get elected then raked over the coals for four years by a special prosecutor. Will be fun watching his inner circle in full screech mode ratting each other out.
 

Jhhnn

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I'd rather see the obama get elected then raked over the coals for four years by a special prosecutor. Will be fun watching his inner circle in full screech mode ratting each other out.

Delusional often?

Oh, wait, yes you are.

People aren't terribly happy with Obama ATM, because they think that he should perform some miracle to heal the economy that took 30 years of trickle down economics to beat half to death, the enormous debt overhang of the Ownership Society and the obvious problem of Repubs doing everything they can to prevent him from doing his job.

We'll see what happens as the election approaches. Romney will have a great deal of difficulty getting past the rabid Spidey-like base in the primaries, and then an even tougher time defending his record of flip-flops (remember the flip-flops from the 2004 RNC?) or getting anybody with sense to actually trust him. If he gets past the primaries, he won't generate a lot of enthusiasm among that base, either. Being Mormon is almost as bad among that base as being black, too.

Perry? The base luvs him, but he's too nuts to carry independents. Great hair, though. The rest? forget 'em.

Obama? He's vulnerable, largely because he really hasn't been much of a Democrat, but Repubs will have to run what they brung, and it's a sorry lot of nags & looney tunes...
 
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I'd rather see the obama get elected then raked over the coals for four years by a special prosecutor. Will be fun watching his inner circle in full screech mode ratting each other out.

For what, exactly?

In 2004 there was a longtime member who posted that if Kerry were elected, he'd want him immediately impeached. I swear, some people would rather see the country suffer if that's what's necessary to make their political rivals squirm. It's just unvarnished stupidity. I will never understand idiots like you.
 

ProfJohn

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In 2004 there was a longtime member who posted that if Kerry were elected, he'd want him immediately impeached.
We aren't even waiting for them to be elected now.

The media is out trying to make sure certain people don't even get elected in the first place.
 

Jhhnn

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How does one become more pro-war than Obama?

Well, invading another country on false premises as with Iraq would be one way. Attacking the Iranians would be another. Or we could do what some of our resident ravers advocate, attack Pakistan...

Lots of ways, really...
 

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Fortunately, Obama's running against a specific Repulican, rather than a generic "not Obama" candidate. And who that Republican is will define this race's outcome to a considerable extent. I think it's a given that Obama will beat Cain if Cain is nominated. Obama will probably even beat Perry. The big question is whether or not Obama can beat Romney, who polls much stronger among independents than any other Republican candidate.
 

Darwin333

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Of course 90% of this is related to him being on watch during a terrible economy and possible double-dip recession.

Normally, I'd say he were doomed without an economic recovery before the next election, but something interesting appears to be happening. People know that the Republican strategies of deregulation and free trade have been tried and can be destructive. As I've said before, I think most people are going to call for New Deal style action before they resign themselves to a life of Walmart jobs.

You give the average voter way to much credit. The "average" voter isn't smart enough to comprehend what you just posted.
 

IGBT

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your obama can't run on his record. It's a disaster. Maybe his bloated sense of personal destiny will be enough to fool enough voters..again. But will he get the guilty white liberal support like last time?? Without the guilty whites/independents/illegal/voter fraud and dead people vote he's doomed.
 

Craig234

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I am extremely upset with our poliicians, but they are simply a mirror of ourselves

No, they're not. They're a mirror of the wealth in this country, which is held hugely by the top 1% and major corporations. A minority are about the people.
 

Jaskalas

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Well, invading another country on false premises as with Iraq would be one way. Attacking the Iranians would be another. Or we could do what some of our resident ravers advocate, attack Pakistan...

Lots of ways, really...

None of which are happening.
 

Jhhnn

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your obama can't run on his record. It's a disaster. Maybe his bloated sense of personal destiny will be enough to fool enough voters..again. But will he get the guilty white liberal support like last time?? Without the guilty whites/independents/illegal/voter fraud and dead people vote he's doomed.

Excellent delusional rant. Especially nice touch with the whole "voter fraud" fraud.

If Obama can't run on his record, how can his republican challenger run on the record of his own party, which has been to prevent the smooth and beneficial operation of the Govt? To block the financial reform that the vast majority support, or the top tier tax increases necessary to reduce deficits that also enjoy overwhelming support? On the basis of holding UI benefits hostage to extended tax cuts at the top, or the full faith and credit of the govt hostage to their need to grandstand? Or their demands that disaster relief create another disaster for the less fortunate among us?

Not that I expect a rational reply from you, at all, but rather to remind everybody of what has occurred and what will likely be among the considerations of the electorate...
 

IGBT

Lifer
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so who do you think the special prosecutor will be after your obama is elected?? So many grinding axes to choose from.