51% Don't Want Second Term For President Obama

[soundforbjt]

More polls for those who doubt this one:

Gallup Tracking 39% approve (historically anything below 48% loses)
Pew 9/22 43% approve
ABC/Washington Post 9/29 42% approve
CBS 9/28 44% approve
FOX 9/25 43% approve
Ipsos/Reuters 9/8 47% <--highest since July

The guy is in BIG trouble.

Obama's average ranks on the low end of comparable averages among the nine presidents since Eisenhower, although it is similar to that of several of the more recently elected presidents, including Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, and Bill Clinton. And two out of those three got elected.

 

[umbrella39]

It is going to be a long year for Democrats.

LMAO still with the predictions...

 

[jackstar7]

Obama will get his ass handed to him in a debate, no teleprompter. Unelectable president is a failure and unelectable. Obama's so desperate now he's trying to put all the blame on congress when he had complete control of it for 2+ years.

This being based on the debates he's already been in where... oh wait, he's president.

President Obama in his final campaign mode: I expect some entertaining television.

 

[ProfJohn]

Even MORE polls

Generic Obama vs GOP
RCP average is +.7 for GOP

That is significant because a sitting president should be winning this by at least 5 points.

 

[MotF Bane]

Man wake up. The only thing people seem to dislike more than Obama right now is the entire GOP.

This. People don't like Obama, but they like the GOP candidates less.

 

[umbrella39]

That is a stupid amount of money to bet on something this uncertain unless you are wealthy enough not to care about $500. Wouldn't you rather donate the money to your favorite PAC or candidate, in order to actually influence the process?

Every time he does this I remember the Flintstone episode where Fred had a gambling addiction....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N57SxyxUhTQ

LMFAO the only difference was Fred was gambling with his own clams, not Wilma's.

 

[MotF Bane]

I think America would be better off with a complete purge of the Congress because no matter who gets in there the results will be the same. I would also point out that voter sentiment could change completely before the next election cycle. If dug longer I am sure I could find other polls that are less "damning" then this Right Wing one is .

Also, this. Empty Congress.

 

[Infohawk]

In other words not face reality.

Personally I think there are realistic alternatives out there, but it's true that the average voter might not have realistic alternatives in mind when they vote. Most people are going to want the government to do something even if they don't know exactly what it is.

 

[ProfJohn]

Obama's average ranks on the low end of comparable averages among the nine presidents since Eisenhower, although it is similar to that of several of the more recently elected presidents, including Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, and Bill Clinton. And two out of those three got elected.

Did you miss my earlier post??

Obama is sitting in between Ford and Carter at this point.

Reagan and Clinton were both higher at this point.

AND we are approaching the point where a President has to be above a certain approval number to win, based on historical results.

Truman is the ONLY winning candidate whose approval dropped below 50% in the year prior to the election.

And the point I have been trying to get into your skulls for months is that there is NOTHING on the horizon that suggests Obama's approval numbers will improve.

His only hope is for the economy to get better and all signs point to it staying the same or getting worse.

Right now the chances of Obama winning next year are very slim.

 

[jstern01]

With Obama moving into full campaign mode, and while Romney leads by a less than 1&#37; in a few polls http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html. Let's hold of call this election over until after GOP primaries and Obama has a clear target to go after.

 

[Ausm]

She must be very proud . . .

LMAO I couldn't agree more what a f'in loser

 

[soundforbjt]

Did you miss my earlier post??

Obama is sitting in between Ford and Carter at this point.

Reagan and Clinton were both higher at this point.

AND we are approaching the point where a President has to be above a certain approval number to win, based on historical results.

Truman is the ONLY winning candidate whose approval dropped below 50% in the year prior to the election.

And the point I have been trying to get into your skulls for months is that there is NOTHING on the horizon that suggests Obama's approval numbers will improve.

His only hope is for the economy to get better and all signs point to it staying the same or getting worse.

Right now the chances of Obama winning next year are very slim.

Would make a difference if the repubs have a good candidate, that remains to be seen.

 

[guyver01]

96&#37; don't want the OP to continue posting.

Can we make this happen?

 

[ProfJohn]

With Obama moving into full campaign mode, and while Romney leads by a less than 1% in a few polls http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html. Let's hold of call this election over until after GOP primaries and Obama has a clear target to go after.

Romney is a hard target for Obama since he is centrist.

What makes him a bad candidate for the primaries makes him a good candidate for the general.

And with the Supreme Court taking on Obamacare before the election it could be 100% about the economy, which is most likely will be anyway.

So you have Obama's record on the economy vs Romney the successful businessman with a history of turning things around.

I don't see how Obama can overcome that.

 

[ProfJohn]

Would make a difference if the repubs have a good candidate, that remains to be seen.

Irrelevant BS.

Just because you don't like the GOP candidates doesn't mean the rest of the country won't.

Romeny and Perry would have no problems in the general election. Look at all of Obama's problems in 2008 and he still won.

Reelections are NEVER about the opposition candidate and are ALWAYS about the incumbent.

 

[soundforbjt]

Irrelevant BS.

Just because you don't like the GOP candidates doesn't mean the rest of the country won't.

Romeny and Perry would have no problems in the general election. Look at all of Obama's problems in 2008 and he still won.

Reelections are NEVER about the opposition candidate and are ALWAYS about the incumbent.

GOP turned that around in 04. And LOL @ Perry having any chance.

The GOP don't even like their own candidates.

 

[dank69]

Irrelevant BS.

Just because you don't like the GOP candidates doesn't mean the rest of the country won't.

Romeny and Perry would have no problems in the general election. Look at all of Obama's problems in 2008 and he still won.

Reelections are NEVER about the opposition candidate and are ALWAYS about the incumbent.

So, 2004?

 

[ProfJohn]

Bush still had a near 50&#37; approval rating on election day.

And for all of 2004 his approval was above 47%

At this point in 2003 Bush was sitting at 55%.
The lowest point he hit during 2004 was 47%
By September/October he was sitting at 50+

He didn't win because people hated Kerry, but because they were still relatively happy with the job he was doing. Anything above 50% = win

You guys forget that with all your Bush hatred.

 

[soundforbjt]

Bush still had a near 50% approval rating on election day.

And for all of 2004 his approval was above 47%

At this point in 2003 Bush was sitting at 55%.
The lowest point he hit during 2004 was 47%
By September/October he was sitting at 50+


You guys forget that with all your Bush hatred.

No you forgot your own quote: "Reelections are NEVER about the opposition candidate and are ALWAYS about the incumbent."

Bush turned that around in 04, whether you chose to believe it or not.

 

[jstern01]

Romney is a hard target for Obama since he is centrist.

What makes him a bad candidate for the primaries makes him a good candidate for the general.

And with the Supreme Court taking on Obamacare before the election it could be 100% about the economy, which is most likely will be anyway.

So you have Obama's record on the economy vs Romney the successful businessman with a history of turning things around.

I don't see how Obama can overcome that.

I think Obama would love to have Mr. Flip-Flop as his republican opponent, Romney's track record of job creation is pretty lousy.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/276684/mitt-romney-s-job-creation-record-katrina-trinko


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/14/994524/-Unaired-ad-from-1994-highlights-Romneys-Bain-record

Honestly, if Romney survives the primaries (and that is not a lock based upon his success in 2008 against Mr. CrankyPants), the Democrats will have a field day with him during the General campaign. Funny thing about politics the longer you are in it, the more skeletons you have in your closet and track record to counter anything you might say.

 

[First]

Whether Obama or Romney wins, a liberal will be in the WH. I don't really get the fellatio over Obama losing, because healthcare will remain intact, without a doubt, with Romney in there. It's simply going to be another bad election for Republicans no matter how you slice it, that's why there's all this fuss over Christie and Perry; GOP is looking for anyone but another centrist-liberal Republican, but a centrist-liberal is the only electable candidate the GOP can field if they want to "win" the presidency.

In any case, when the economy improves further over the coming 9 months it'll be much harder for Repubs to get close. 50&#37;+ still blame Bush, after all.

 

[Anarchist420]

Romney is a hard target for Obama since he is centrist.

What makes him a bad candidate for the primaries makes him a good candidate for the general.

And with the Supreme Court taking on Obamacare before the election it could be 100&#37; about the economy, which is most likely will be anyway.

So you have Obama's record on the economy vs Romney the successful businessman with a history of turning things around.

I don't see how Obama can overcome that.

People are going to be disappointed when they see that Romney will have exactly the same economic policies as Obama. I'm expecting Romney to do more damage to liberty than Obama does. Bush actually did more damage in his first 2 years (SOX, Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, recommending increasing the Federal debt at a greater rate, 9/11, War in Iraq, didn't cut taxes much, CAFTA, easy credit policy, steel tariff, went after Martha Stewart, etc.) than Obama did in his first two years. Sure, Obama's done Obamacare and did a pisspoor job handling the oil spill (it may have been planned, but I'm assuming it wasn't). However, the Republicans didn't even care about preventing the monster that is Obamacare until after it happened and a Republican president signed into law the damage cap.

The Republicans are responsible for this year's budget deficit anyway.

 

[ProfJohn]

Whether Obama or Romney wins, a liberal will be in the WH. I don't really get the fellatio over Obama losing, because healthcare will remain intact, without a doubt, with Romney in there. It's simply going to be another bad election for Republicans no matter how you slice it, that's why there's all this fuss over Christie and Perry; GOP is looking for anyone but another centrist-liberal Republican, but a centrist-liberal is the only electable candidate the GOP can field if they want to "win" the presidency.

In any case, when the economy improves further over the coming 9 months it'll be much harder for Repubs to get close. 50%+ still blame Bush, after all.

Dude you are blind!!!

Real Clear Politics Generic Congressional Vote
Republicans +0.3

That suggest a 50/50 election or a slight GOP victory which is FAR from a bad election. And a 50/50 election results in almost no change in seats which is what we saw in 2000.

And don't forget the fact that the Democrats WILL lose the Senate. It is almost impossible for them to keep control due to all the seats they have to defend and there locations.

 

[spidey07]

All the republicans have to do is do what they did in 2010 which lead to historic landslide victories. The entire platform will be "I will undo what Obama has done".

And that's enough to win it in most all districts. Remember how democrats wanted Obama as far away from their campaigns as possible?

 

[jstern01]

Dude you are blind!!!

Real Clear Politics Generic Congressional Vote
Republicans +0.3

That suggest a 50/50 election or a slight GOP victory which is FAR from a bad election. And a 50/50 election results in almost no change in seats which is what we saw in 2000.

And don't forget the fact that the Democrats WILL lose the Senate. It is almost impossible for them to keep control due to all the seats they have to defend and there locations.

One Sentence --- Dewey Defeats Truman.

Let's see how this shakes out November 2012.