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51% Don't Want Second Term For President Obama

ProfJohn

Lifer
It is going to be a long year for Democrats.

Only 41% of Americans want Obama to be reelected. That number is insanely low when you realize that even Mondale got 40% of the vote in 1984 and Carter got 41% in 1980.

Among independents only 36% want to see Obama win another term.

If something major doesn't happen Obama is going to get killed next year.
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAna...Dont-Want-Second-Term-For-President-Obama.htm
A majority of Americans now oppose giving President Obama a second term, reflecting the country's continued weak economic performance, according to the latest IBD/TIPP survey released Monday.

By 51%-41%, respondents in October picked "someone new deserves a chance" over Obama "deserves to be re-elected." Among independents, it was 54%-36%. Back in September, the readings were 50%-44% and 53%-38%, respectively.

Americans are frustrated over the continued sluggish economy, says Raghavan Mayur, president of TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence, which conducted the poll. As Vice President Joe Biden recently admitted, after nearly three years in power, the Obama administration owns the economy.

The U.S. added 103,000 jobs last month, the Labor Department reported Friday. That was far better than expected, but not enough to keep pace with population growth. Excluding the impact of a short-lived Verizon (VZ) strike, the U.S. added just 58,000 jobs.

Half of Americans give Obama poor or unacceptable marks in creating jobs and economic growth vs. 24% who say he's doing well.

Among independents, it's 51%-18%. 33% of swing voters give him an "F" vs. just 2% who give an "A".

That underscores Obama's intensity problem. In addition to his deteriorating support among independents, just 77% of Democrats say Obama deserves re-election while 88% of Republicans say he doesn't.

The Occupy Wall Street movement, while directed at fat cat bankers, also reflects broad dissatisfaction among Obama's political base.

The economic outlook doesn't look any better for Obama. Private and government forecasters expect the jobless rate — 9.1% in September — to stay above 8% or even 9% through 2012. Back in 2009, Obama predicted the unemployment rate would be down to 6.5% by now.

Still, while Obama may be losing by double digits to "somebody else" ultimately he will face off against a real rival. The GOP nomination race is fluid, with Mitt Romney, Rick Perry and Herman Cain the current top contenders.

If the election is a referendum on Obama and the economy, he faces an uphill fight. So he will try to convince voters that his eventual opponent is unacceptable.

The IBD/TIPP Presidential Leadership Index fell 0.2 point in October to 46.3. That's the eighth straight month below the neutral 50 level, signaling disapproval. Obama hit a personal low of 45.1 in August, near the peak of the debt ceiling standoff.

The IBD/TIPP poll of 909 adults was conducted from Oct. 1-5, with an error of +/- 3.3 percentage points
 
Still a long time until November 2012. Heck Clinton's approval rating in 1995 was as low or lower at some points that Obama.
 
I think America would be better off with a complete purge of the Congress because no matter who gets in there the results will be the same. I would also point out that voter sentiment could change completely before the next election cycle. If dug longer I am sure I could find other polls that are less "damning" then this Right Wing one is 😉.
 
You say that like the GOP is bringing in independents in record numbers and enjoy an overwhelming show of support. Republicans can't even stand their own candidates and somehow that translates into "Obama is going to get killed next year".

Man wake up. The only thing people seem to dislike more than Obama right now is the entire GOP.
 
You say that like the GOP is bringing in independents in record numbers and enjoy an overwhelming show of support. Republicans can't even stand their own candidates and somehow that translates into "Obama is going to get killed next year".

Man wake up. The only thing people seem to dislike more than Obama right now is the entire GOP.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
That is a separate question than "Do you want Obama or One of the GOP candidates" for 2012.
 
Wait for the debates.

Obama will get his ass handed to him in a debate, no teleprompter. Unelectable president is a failure and unelectable. Obama's so desperate now he's trying to put all the blame on congress when he had complete control of it for 2+ years.
 
I used to subscribe to Investors Business Daily. Their editorial page would fault Genghis Kahn as being a soft hearted liberal.

A poll expressing dissatisfaction with Obama is meaningless unless the alternatives are presented in the same poll-just like an election. Unfortunately for the GOP its prospective candidates are all obvious wackos unfit to run a cub scout den (except for Romney who has absolutely no platform and no principles).
 
Truthfully, no. But then again I would quote Shakespeare's Henry VI, 'The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers'. That would wipe out about 98% of Congress.

I really think its time we had a 2nd Constitutional Convention to address the way our government dysfunction has harmed the future. Maybe rewrite the Constitution to make serving in Congress a non paid position, and Supreme Court subject to general election say every 6 years like the Senate.
 
Obama will get his ass handed to him in a debate, no teleprompter. Unelectable president is a failure and unelectable. Obama's so desperate now he's trying to put all the blame on congress when he had complete control of it for 2+ years.

Seriously, I would lay money that none of the GOP yahoo's could construct a meaningful sentence in a presidential debate, let along out debate Obama.
 
Obama will get his ass handed to him in a debate, no teleprompter. Unelectable president is a failure and unelectable. Obama's so desperate now he's trying to put all the blame on congress when he had complete control of it for 2+ years.

He did fine in the debates last time - certainly better than McCain. Based on how Perry has performed thus far I'd expect the President to beat him in any debate, but have a harder time with Romney.

I don't give this poll great credence, but I do think Romney, if he runs the right campaign and manages to convince the conservative wing of the GOP that he is Presidential material, will likely beat President Obama. I would expect the President to beat Perry or any of the other misfits running for the GOP nomination, however.
 
Obama will get his ass handed to him in a debate, no teleprompter. Unelectable president is a failure and unelectable. Obama's so desperate now he's trying to put all the blame on congress when he had complete control of it for 2+ years.
Bullshit claim is bullshit.
 
Still a long time until November 2012. Heck Clinton's approval rating in 1995 was as low or lower at some points that Obama.
Nope.

Oct 95 approval:
46% aprove
42% dissaprove

46% was Clinton's low point other than one poll from Jan 1996 otherwise Clinton was in the mid 40 range and up over 50 in 1996.

Obama is stilling 40% right now. And he has been polling lower than Clinton since April.

And there HUGE difference is that Clinton had a good economy while Obama has a bad economy. So there is no reason for Obama to rebound at this point unless we see some economic improvement.



Reagan was also doing better than Obama at this point 45%
Bush was WAY above Obama 55%
Carter was at 31%
Ford was at 47%
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx
 
Of course 90% of this is related to him being on watch during a terrible economy and possible double-dip recession.

Normally, I'd say he were doomed without an economic recovery before the next election, but something interesting appears to be happening. People know that the Republican strategies of deregulation and free trade have been tried and can be destructive. As I've said before, I think most people are going to call for New Deal style action before they resign themselves to a life of Walmart jobs.
 
Nope.

Oct 95 approval:
46% aprove
42% dissaprove

46% was Clinton's low point other than one poll from Jan 1996 otherwise Clinton was in the mid 40 range and up over 50 in 1996.

Obama is stilling 40% right now. And he has been polling lower than Clinton since April.

And there HUGE difference is that Clinton had a good economy while Obama has a bad economy. So there is no reason for Obama to rebound at this point unless we see some economic improvement.



Reagan was also doing better than Obama at this point 45%
Bush was WAY above Obama 55%
Carter was at 31%
Ford was at 47%
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx

I am sure the Republicans in Congress are getting right on this good thing their approval rating is 13% :whiste:
 
Care to make a wager on Obama losing the 2012 presidential election? 500 bucks?

That is a stupid amount of money to bet on something this uncertain unless you are wealthy enough not to care about $500. Wouldn't you rather donate the money to your favorite PAC or candidate, in order to actually influence the process?
 
He did fine in the debates last time - certainly better than McCain. Based on how Perry has performed thus far I'd expect the President to beat him in any debate, but have a harder time with Romney.

I don't give this poll great credence, but I do think Romney, if he runs the right campaign and manages to convince the conservative wing of the GOP that he is Presidential material, will likely beat President Obama. I would expect the President to beat Perry or any of the other misfits running for the GOP nomination, however.
I agree completely.

It looks like we are headed to President Romney.

If you watch the GOP debates then you will see that Romney comes off 100% like a President. He is cool and collected and gives good answers. He should more than hold his own against Obama and Obama will be on the defensive for much of the debates. Unless the moderators ignore the economy and try to nail Romney on healthcare and such.
 
That is a stupid amount of money to bet on something this uncertain unless you are wealthy enough not to care about $500. Wouldn't you rather donate the money to your favorite PAC or candidate, in order to actually influence the process?

He's lives off his wife's wages😵
 
Of course 90% of this is related to him being on watch during a terrible economy and possible double-dip recession.

Normally, I'd say he were doomed without an economic recovery before the next election, but something interesting appears to be happening. People know that the Republican strategies of deregulation and free trade have been tried and can be destructive. As I've said before, I think most people are going to call for New Deal style action before they resign themselves to a life of Walmart jobs.

In other words not face reality.
 
More polls for those who doubt this one:

Gallup Tracking 39% approve (historically anything below 48% loses)
Pew 9/22 43% approve
ABC/Washington Post 9/29 42% approve
CBS 9/28 44% approve
FOX 9/25 43% approve
Ipsos/Reuters 9/8 47% <--highest since July

The guy is in BIG trouble.
 
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