500k Android activation per day, up from 300k in December

[Ns1]

As always, because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't out there. I rarely see any iPad 2's anywhere, everything I see is a 1. Does that mean everyone's iPad 2 is just at home collecting dust?

I'd assume they were bought up by scalpers and shipped back to the motherland

I've never seen an iPad2 in the wild either, I only know they exist through facebook.

 

[hanoverphist]

And technology marches onward... how is this a problem?

not a problem at all. but instead of a good device getting a community of followers and having OEM support for at least a year, its getting dropped down to months. iOS has a huge following of people in their community that still do modding, tweaks, themes and what not. winmo6.X had (still has to a point) a huge following. there were many sites that had well over 200k apps you could install. now, android has a separate forum for each phone, and devs that will inevitably move on quickly to develop for the specific phone they have at the time. i follow the incredible, droidX and tb forums on a few different sites (phones for work) to see whats new and innovative on them, and it seems like it has slowed way down in terms of new and upcoming changes. no longer is it 30 different phones running winmo6.1, 15 phones running winmo6.5 and 4 versions of iOS, its tons of specific phones running some version of android in different stages of carrier lock, and no real interaction between them.

 

[Anubis]

meh, I'm not surprised. New android device every week. New iPhone every...16 months, average??

it'll be more interesting to see what happens in September/Fall

SGS2 v iPhone4GS


Random: To date, I have never seen an Android tablet in the wild.

i really think unless the iphone starts shipping with a larger screen its going to start losing ground even faster. one of the main benefits that android has with new phones coming out ever few months is that one of them will always have the latest and greatest doodads. i even know some apple users who are annoyed at the the smallness of it, 2 are moving to the samsung infuse from 3Gs and 2 are waiting for the SGS2

as for tablets not counting my own im tied 3 ipads and 3 android tabs (all EEE pads)

however they lose to the billion nooks and kindles i see

 

[Anubis]

which is my point exactly. Where are all these android tablets? Sitting in their owners' dressers gathering dust?

its where mine is most of the time, the only time it leaves my house is when i travel for work, then it goes in a backpack and ill use it in the airport or car and such. there is no need to take it anywhere other then that. my buddy has an ipad and he uses his the same way. TBH i don't think its ever left his house. his fie uses it for stuffs

 

[Ns1]

i really think unless the iphone starts shipping with a larger screen its going to start losing ground even faster. one of the main benefits that android has with new phones coming out ever few months is that one of them will always have the latest and greatest doodads.

iono, I see iPhone5/4gs holding down the fort with iCloud. With 2 year contracts I don't think it matters as much.

I think a lot of 3gs'ers who bought during June 2 years ago were eligible for upgrades since...March? April?...defected over to Android when they found out no new model in June. I would have if I found a model I liked (aka why didn't the SGS2 come out yet?).

soooo here's my prediction:
growth of Android until whenever iPhone5/iOS5/iCloud hit (SSSSSSSUPER COMBO!) and then Apple pwning the market for a year or so.

 

[Anubis]

i think you over estimate the cloud

 

[zerocool84]

iono, I see iPhone5/4gs holding down the fort with iCloud. With 2 year contracts I don't think it matters as much.

I think a lot of 3gs'ers who bought during June 2 years ago were eligible for upgrades since...March? April?...defected over to Android when they found out no new model in June. I would have if I found a model I liked (aka why didn't the SGS2 come out yet?).

soooo here's my prediction:
growth of Android until whenever iPhone5/iOS5/iCloud hit (SSSSSSSUPER COMBO!) and then Apple pwning the market for a year or so.

Yet all these other iPhone releases and this hasn't happened at all. Cloud is not revolutionary at all unless you've been locked in the iPhone ecosystem since you guys don't know what notifications are or wireless syncing (still only wifi syncing lol) and a ton of other stuff. Nothing good enough to bring someone from Android over.

 

[cheezy321]

iono, I see iPhone5/4gs holding down the fort with iCloud. With 2 year contracts I don't think it matters as much.

I think a lot of 3gs'ers who bought during June 2 years ago were eligible for upgrades since...March? April?...defected over to Android when they found out no new model in June. I would have if I found a model I liked (aka why didn't the SGS2 come out yet?).

soooo here's my prediction:
growth of Android until whenever iPhone5/iOS5/iCloud hit (SSSSSSSUPER COMBO!) and then Apple pwning the market for a year or so.

iPhone alone will never outsell android as a whole. It just cant happen anymore. Android is on every single carrier, with 10+ models on each carrier. You can get an android phone pretty easily without a contract. In the United States (and other countries) you pretty much have to sign a contract to get an iPhone. Think about all the illegal immigrants who cant sign a contract. They sure as hell aren't buying an iPhone, they are getting an android. Think of all the people with low/poor credit. They aren't buying iPhone, they are getting android pre-paid phones. Same goes for basically any citizen that can't sign a contract. This is a huge market that apple has not touched at all.

 

[Bateluer]

soooo here's my prediction:
growth of Android until whenever iPhone5/iOS5/iCloud hit (SSSSSSSUPER COMBO!) and then Apple pwning the market for a year or so.

The release of the iPhone 4 really didn't make much of an impact in the sales of Android phones.

 

[badb0y]

ios is derived from mac osx which is derived from Linux/Unix (free) and from NeXTSTEP which was is itself derived from unix/linux esque oses at the time. So, really, its a closed OS (as in they dont want you to know its just a clever free Linux/Unix based OS that they tweaked).

What is your point?

 

[Mopetar]

Considering that the majority of the market still doesn't use smart phones, arguing about market share is somewhat pointless when the room for growth for both ecosystems is much larger than either are by themselves.

I don't think either has really been taking away sales from the other. Apple isn't running up large stockpiles of devices that they can't sell and Android isn't having any problem gaining overall market share as it erodes BlackBerry and Windows Mobile sales.

Why people keep fighting over this is beyond me.

 

[QueBert]

As always, because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't out there. I rarely see any iPad 2's anywhere, everything I see is a 1. Does that mean everyone's iPad 2 is just at home collecting dust?

I see iPad 1's all over every day, I've never seen the Galaxy Tablet anywhere outside of Best Buy. I've seen 1 Xoom. Any Android tablet numbers that show anything even remotely impressive are a lie. iPad 2's were sold out at my local Best Buy for months, and the 64gb Wifi one's still hard to find there. If you don't see iPad 2's you need to look harder. I saw 3 this evening at TGIF while I was eating dinner.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

i really like android, esp now that my droidx runs gingerbread. i dont really use apps, just the web browser and i think web browsing is much better on my droid because it has a bigger screen than my iphone. the android design with dedicated buttons is better than iphone which wastes screenspace with the back button

 

[OBLAMA2009]

I see iPad 1's all over every day, I've never seen the Galaxy Tablet anywhere outside of Best Buy. I've seen 1 Xoom. Any Android tablet numbers that show anything even remotely impressive are a lie. iPad 2's were sold out at my local Best Buy for months, and the 64gb Wifi one's still hard to find there. If you don't see iPad 2's you need to look harder. I saw 3 this evening at TGIF while I was eating dinner.

ipads are often sold out, but if you go to best buy and look underneath the android demos youll see a cabinet full of galaxy tabs and xooms. they are moving very slowly, maybe because people think honeycomb/xoom is buggy. the galaxy tabs are really nice, but i would only get one once they support lte

 

[BenSkywalker]

Just over 100 million smartphones were solid in Q4 with the segment still seeing close to 80% YoY market growth, figure in Androids marketshare and the 300K per day they were quoting in December actually seemed rather low(1.1Million new smartphones activated per day, that leaves them under 30%). Not sure if their sales rate is accelerating as fast as indicated or if they were underreporting sales in December.

If you don't see iPad 2's you need to look harder. I saw 3 this evening at TGIF while I was eating dinner.

I have yet to see any 10" tablets in the hands of people on the street, no matter what flavor. I've seen a bunch of the 7" models floating around on the campus down the street from me, they could be Kindles, Nooks, Galaxies or something else entirely, but none of them have been the 10" class at all. I'm sure plenty of kids on campus are using iPads or 10" tablets of some flavor, but they aren't the most portable of devices(ie- they probaby carry them in their bag, different useage model then the 7" form factor).

You can get an android phone pretty easily without a contract.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...d=1&name=Apple

First place I checked, iPhone without a contract, pretty easy. I understand what you are saying about no contract phones having a different potential market, but it isn't like you can't get almost any phone without contract easily.

 

[Imp]

So does Google get a royalty from Android or is it like freeware?

 

[cheezy321]

Just over 100 million smartphones were solid in Q4 with the segment still seeing close to 80% YoY market growth, figure in Androids marketshare and the 300K per day they were quoting in December actually seemed rather low(1.1Million new smartphones activated per day, that leaves them under 30%). Not sure if their sales rate is accelerating as fast as indicated or if they were underreporting sales in December.



I have yet to see any 10" tablets in the hands of people on the street, no matter what flavor. I've seen a bunch of the 7" models floating around on the campus down the street from me, they could be Kindles, Nooks, Galaxies or something else entirely, but none of them have been the 10" class at all. I'm sure plenty of kids on campus are using iPads or 10" tablets of some flavor, but they aren't the most portable of devices(ie- they probaby carry them in their bag, different useage model then the 7" form factor).



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...d=1&name=Apple

First place I checked, iPhone without a contract, pretty easy. I understand what you are saying about no contract phones having a different potential market, but it isn't like you can't get almost any phone without contract easily.

People who dont sign contracts are generally the ones who dont make much money or have bad credit. If you had $700 to spend on a phone you most likely have enough money / good enough credit to sign a contract.

Again, android is tapping a huge customer base that iPhone hasn't touched.

 

[runawayprisoner]

I think it's worth noting that certain phones completely change their identities after flashing certain ROMs...

Galaxy S phones are prime examples. My Captivate can be either a Vibrant or a Galaxy S depending on what ROM I'm flashing.

So "new devices" is really hard to prove under that condition.