500k Android activation per day, up from 300k in December

[alent1234]

i remember when Windows 95 came out, Mac's were crap back then, Mac OS was so far technologically behind Windows it was a joke and Apple was a shadow of their current self. and the penetration rate for computers was extremely low.

2011 you have over 100 million iOS devices in use, Apple has $50 billion in cash, they take the most profits in all the markets they compete in, they are very developer friendly even compared to 10 years ago, the app store is a lot better than the crappola that is google android market, google doesn't seem to want to fix this either. their herd of geniuses with asperger syndrome seem to want to hit a new project every year and dump the work on others when they get bored

and my 512MB RAM ipad seems to be faster than my Inspire with 768MB RAM and a smaller screen. technologically iOS is better than android

only reason i have an android phone is that it's cheap, apple doesn't make a big screen phone, it's only $25 more a month. otherwise i think android sucks and i try to use my ipad 2 as much as possible. but with imessage coming out i might just buy my wife the iphone 5 and take her 4 and cancel our texting plan

 

[sciwizam]

Anything to actually back this up?

CyanogenMod: Estimated around 500,000 users.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/05/cyanogenmod-android-hack/

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Because it looks like Google might do the same thing to Apple in the mobile market that Microsoft did to them in the PC market.

Apple is the most profitable right now but if Android continues growing at this rate that would likely change.

AS much as I like android and dislike iOS, it's not going to happen. There are to many people that care about the appearance that an iPhone gives them. It's "cool". Android is "geeky"

As far as people modding their phones, there's a lot more of them than you think doing it. I've run into chicks that know absolutely nothing about using a computer, but they'll have Cyannogen or some other custom ROM running on their phone.
The ability to change the phone to what you want, instead of being toldwhat you want is a big reason for Android adoption. It's also why the android "sphere" will never be as profitable as iOS, because there is such a fragmentation, money is wasted on all the different designs of hardware and OEM ROMS.
Think about it for a miunte. IF all the money spent on manufacturers ROMS and the research to develop all of the different phones had gone into one killer device. We'd have the Mozilla Seabird in our hands already.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

and my 512MB RAM ipad seems to be faster than my Inspire with 768MB RAM and a smaller screen. technologically iOS is better than android

You do realize the iPad 2 has a much faster dual core processor and considerably more powerful gpu than the Inspire? There is no way having slightly more ram would mitigate the Inspire's significantly weaker hardware.

 

[QueBert]

Honestly, I don't think it would skew that 500k figure all that much.

There is a large active community of Android modders on the internet, but compared to the overwhelming number of regular non-modding consumers, it's a very small minority...

Go on XDA, there can be tens of thousands of posts in a thread for a popular rom, and there are quite a few popular roms. You have people who flash more than I do (which is insane) I bet it's 10k on any given day, 4-5x more on a day of a big rom release/update. I wouldn't be surprised if my gusss is very low, XDA is too active for there not to be a ton of daily flashers. I don't see how these numbers wouldn't skew the figures here. No it's not going to turn 500k into 250k. But honesty I could see it knocking 20k a day off, which adds up to big numbers. Last week I installed MikG 1.04 and literally an hour later he uploaded 2.0 than the next day 2.1. I've chatted with people who will flash every rom they come across just because they have some sort of Android addiction lol. Hell it's only 10AM and I've already done 2 flashes today, about to do a 3rd because I forgot to do a Nand backup after the 1st and I realized I don't like the 2nd. DOH

score 3 more activations for Android today from me

 

[foghorn67]

These are new device activations, not ROM activations. They stated and clarified this in previous brag counts.

 

[alent1234]

You do realize the iPad 2 has a much faster dual core processor and considerably more powerful gpu than the Inspire? There is no way having slightly more ram would mitigate the Inspire's significantly weaker hardware.

inspire seems to freeze sometimes, but it also processes less data than the ipad since the screen is smaller. and i played with a Xoom at Costco for a little bit. it sucks compared to the ipad

the GPU doesn't do much in normal use anyway so having a dual core CPU/GPU shouldn't matter in everyday things. even my wife's iphone 4 seems faster than my inspire. but at $20 and a killer Navigation app it's a good deal.

apple also has a good multitasking model than the idiotic android run in the background suck up resources for no reason model. and the software is written for the hardware.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

inspire seems to freeze sometimes, but it also processes less data than the ipad since the screen is smaller. and i played with a Xoom at Costco for a little bit. it sucks compared to the ipad

the GPU doesn't do much in normal use anyway so having a dual core CPU/GPU shouldn't matter in everyday things. even my wife's iphone 4 seems faster than my inspire. but at $20 and a killer Navigation app it's a good deal.

apple also has a good multitasking model than the idiotic android run in the background suck up resources for no reason model. and the software is written for the hardware.

A dual core processor and a better gpu will most certainly make a difference in everyday things, if they didn't everyone would still be using iPhone 3g's and G1's. If you put a Samsung Galaxy S2 up against the Inspire it would be much smoother too and like the iPad it has a dual core cpu and newer gpu.

What you are basically saying is because a Windows 7 pc running on a Core i7 2600k blows away a Macbook Air that means 7 must be technically superior to OSX

Some of us actually want our phones to be able to run stuff in the background.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

Some of us actually want our phones to be able to run stuff in the background.

So you just want to let it run continuously in the background as opposed to saving its state in memory and receive push notifications?

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

The reason why you want multitasking is not the same reason why you want a rogue app to kill your battery life.

Half of Android multitasking is saved states and suspended states anyway. It's only the few things that stay in the notification bar that runs full time like your IM apps. Even then how does that make sense if all you're doing is waiting for a message? Push solves this. Google's push system is broken or barely used, which is why you require the IM app to run in the background. Look how long it took Facebook to get push out. The funny thing is Twitter still doesn't have push notifications on Android. Can I ask what the fvck is the point of twitter without real time feeds? Do you want an hourly pull to finally get a @ mention so you can tweet back?

Just honestly even as a power Android user, there's very few things you need to "run in the background." SetCPU is NOT one of them because from most developers' point of view, SetCPU wastes more power with its profile settings. A good phone should idle at its lowest clock speed anyway and you shouldn't have to cap the frequencies. Other things like Titanium Backup scheduled backups use a scheduling function and does not run in the background.

Anyway back to topic this # is amazing, but it seems to me both sides are just playing a damn numbers game.

 

[_Aurel_]

i remember when Windows 95 came out, Mac's were crap back then, Mac OS was so far technologically behind Windows it was a joke and Apple was a shadow of their current self. and the penetration rate for computers was extremely low.

2011 you have over 100 million iOS devices in use, Apple has $50 billion in cash, they take the most profits in all the markets they compete in, they are very developer friendly even compared to 10 years ago, the app store is a lot better than the crappola that is google android market, google doesn't seem to want to fix this either. their herd of geniuses with asperger syndrome seem to want to hit a new project every year and dump the work on others when they get bored

and my 512MB RAM ipad seems to be faster than my Inspire with 768MB RAM and a smaller screen. technologically iOS is better than android

only reason i have an android phone is that it's cheap, apple doesn't make a big screen phone, it's only $25 more a month. otherwise i think android sucks and i try to use my ipad 2 as much as possible. but with imessage coming out i might just buy my wife the iphone 5 and take her 4 and cancel our texting plan

HTC counts the RAM that the cellular hardware would need to operate into their total System RAM. To add further to that, your iPad has a faster dual-core processor. Also, apples taste different than oranges.

 

[Ns1]

meh, I'm not surprised. New android device every week. New iPhone every...16 months, average??

it'll be more interesting to see what happens in September/Fall

SGS2 v iPhone4GS


Random: To date, I have never seen an Android tablet in the wild.

 

[QueBert]

meh, I'm not surprised. New android device every week. New iPhone every...16 months, average??

it'll be more interesting to see what happens in September.


Random: To date, I have never seen an Android tablet in the wild.

you're not looking hard enough hater, I saw one, once

 

[Red Storm]

meh, I'm not surprised. New android device every week. New iPhone every...16 months, average??

it'll be more interesting to see what happens in September.


Random: To date, I have never seen an Android tablet in the wild.

There could be a new Android release every day and that number would still surprise me. 500k per day is a large amount.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

meh, I'm not surprised. New android device every week. New iPhone every...16 months, average??

it'll be more interesting to see what happens in September/Fall

SGS2 v iPhone4GS


Random: To date, I have never seen an Android tablet in the wild.

Probably because the people that use them, ie, Nook, Nook Color, ect actually use them. They don't position themselves to make sure people see them using it in an attempt to justify their purchase.

 

[Ns1]

There could be a new Android release every day and that number would still surprise me. 500k per day is a large amount.

a quick rundown of Apple's Q12011 results

19.45 million iPods, 16.24 million iPhones, 7.33 million iPads
= 478k/day


soooo all these Android devices are phones I guess cuz there is no fucking way tablet numbers are that high (for android).

Still, 500k/devices a day and Android devices are still the minority around here. Why is there such a disconnect between stats and reality?

Probably because the people that use them, ie, Nook, Nook Color, ect actually use them. They don't position themselves to make sure people see them using it in an attempt to justify their purchase.

I guess I should tell the VP of my department to put his iPad away and stop playing Angry Birds during meetings.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

Probably because the people that use them, ie, Nook, Nook Color, ect actually use them. They don't position themselves to make sure people see them using it in an attempt to justify their purchase.

Right, because all people do is buy iPads and go somewhere so everyone will notice them.

 

[Red Storm]

a quick rundown of Apple's Q12011 results

19.45 million iPods, 16.24 million iPhones, 7.33 million iPads
= 478k/day


soooo all these Android devices are phones I guess cuz there is no fucking way tablet numbers are that high (for android).

Still, 500k/devices a day and Android devices are still the minority around here. Why is there such a disconnect between stats and reality?

That's what makes it impressive, the fact that most of those 500k are phones, not additional gadgets that a single person will likely have multiple of. A whole hell of a lot more people have multiple gadgets (iPod, then iPhone, then iPad) than there are people who have multiple phones, so it impresses me.

 

[Bateluer]

Too true. So many phones coming out that the manufacturers just give up on previous models (Samsung, I'm calling you out). VRZ just sickens me with a new phone and commercial a week.

Really? I was going to call out Verizon for not having the Android choices of other carriers, not releasing them as quickly, and using old hardware.

 

[badb0y]

You guys are comparing different things. Apple is in a peculiar position because it not only makes the OS but it also sells the phone with the OS exclusively so Android's Market share is obviously going to rise because it's licensed out to so many manufacturers on every single carrier. It's like Android has 30 devices from various manufacturers activating 20,000 devices per manufacturer while Apple is probably activating 150,000 iPhones on it's own.

(Numbers pulled from my asshole, just trying to make a point).

 

[Oyeve]

You guys are comparing different things. Apple is in a peculiar position because it not only makes the OS but it also sells the phone with the OS exclusively so Android's Market share is obviously going to rise because it's licensed out to so many manufacturers on every single carrier. It's like Android has 30 devices from various manufacturers activating 20,000 devices per manufacturer while Apple is probably activating 150,000 iPhones on it's own.

(Numbers pulled from my asshole, just trying to make a point).

ios is derived from mac osx which is derived from Linux/Unix (free) and from NeXTSTEP which was is itself derived from unix/linux esque oses at the time. So, really, its a closed OS (as in they dont want you to know its just a clever free Linux/Unix based OS that they tweaked).

 

[zerocool84]

meh, I'm not surprised. New android device every week. New iPhone every...16 months, average??

it'll be more interesting to see what happens in September/Fall

SGS2 v iPhone4GS


Random: To date, I have never seen an Android tablet in the wild.

You not seeing one means literally nothing because the 20% drop in Apple's tablet marketshare was because of Android tablets. As usual anecdotal evidence means nothing. Someone can say they've never seen an iPad but the numbers don't lie.

 

[dainthomas]

Right, because all people do is buy iPads and go somewhere so everyone will notice them.

Pretty much.

 

[Ns1]

Someone can say they've never seen an iPad but the numbers don't lie.

which is my point exactly. Where are all these android tablets? Sitting in their owners' dressers gathering dust?

 

[zerocool84]

which is my point exactly. Where are all these android tablets? Sitting in their owners' dressers gathering dust?

As always, because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't out there. I rarely see any iPad 2's anywhere, everything I see is a 1. Does that mean everyone's iPad 2 is just at home collecting dust?