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50-cal Sniper in Afghanistan

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Originally posted by: Yossarian451
All of you do know that we are not authorized to shoot actual people with the .50 caliber rifles, correct? We can only shoot vehicles. Second they would not film it.



wrong.

US snipers have killed many in Viatnam, gulf war etc. Do a quick search on google. I remember a story about one of the best snipers in viatnam hunting down and killing there best sniper. the gun he used was .50 caliber.

 
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
shen in general

the video is bs

a .50 cal wouldn't throw people into the air.

Correct. My boss is a Marine sniper and says that even getting knocked to the ground by a 762 is because your body may go limp as a reaction to the shot, not the force of the shot knocking you over. People don't fly backwards or flip over or any of that crap. In order to do that, the person shooting the weapon would also be knocked back a relatively equal amount without being braced by something.

He says that the .50 cal will blow the target in half if the target is sized and weighted for a human, but the parts essentially just drop in the same relative area. They don't get thrown around like that in the video unless the target's mass is significantly less than an adult human. MAYBE a small child.
 
Originally posted by: Icopoli
Originally posted by: Yossarian451
All of you do know that we are not authorized to shoot actual people with the .50 caliber rifles, correct? We can only shoot vehicles. Second they would not film it.
We're not supposed to do a lot of things *coughnapalmcough* but we do it anyway.

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Shooting people with a .50 cal is not allowed true. But, you can shoot equipment. as long as the person has equipment on them they are fair game. Is it our fault the person dies when you are shooting at his/her equipment?
 
It?s called a prairie dog. People shoot them all the time. Google it and you will see more of those videos.
 
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
It?s called a prairie dog. People shoot them all the time. Google it and you will see more of those videos.
Yep. There is a website (dogbegone) that sells videos of high caliber Praire Dog plinking. It was linked out of ATOT about 2 months ago.

Those be varmits flying. The last kill is more than obvious.

edit - remembered the name - dogbegone.com

 
Originally posted by: Reyen
Shooting people with a .50 cal is not allowed true. But, you can shoot equipment. as long as the person has equipment on them they are fair game. Is it our fault the person dies when you are shooting at his/her equipment?

not true.
 
is there like an Actual size image of a .50 cal AMMO I can see somewhere. I need to get a feel for how big this thing is.
 
Originally posted by: Pepsei
Originally posted by: Reyen
Shooting people with a .50 cal is not allowed true. But, you can shoot equipment. as long as the person has equipment on them they are fair game. Is it our fault the person dies when you are shooting at his/her equipment?

not true.
QFT - What is not allowed: hollow-points, filled (like mercury), or dum-dum rounds - Geneva convention.
 
I have a buddy in the Army that made the same point that you can shoot equiptment with the large caliber rounds but not the person, now the fact that the person is wearing the equiptment is his problem.
 
Originally posted by: Reyen
Shooting people with a .50 cal is not allowed true. But, you can shoot equipment. as long as the person has equipment on them they are fair game. Is it our fault the person dies when you are shooting at his/her equipment?

Read the post just above yours, and read the link...
 
Originally posted by: gigapet
is there like an Actual size image of a .50 cal AMMO I can see somewhere. I need to get a feel for how big this thing is.

A .50 cal would be about a half inch (.50) in diameter. 😉
 
Originally posted by: gigapet
is there like an Actual size image of a .50 cal AMMO I can see somewhere. I need to get a feel for how big this thing is.

Probably, but until you can hold an actually bullet, you just don't full grasp the "omgwtf" hugeness of the thing. 😉

I've seen one once and damn they're big.
 
Originally posted by: Reyen
Shooting people with a .50 cal is not allowed true. But, you can shoot equipment. as long as the person has equipment on them they are fair game. Is it our fault the person dies when you are shooting at his/her equipment?

wrong, you can blast people with a 50cal there are no rules of war against it. how many iraquies got wasted when they shot at a tank and hid around a building and mr crew member swung the 50 around and blasted the building? its legal dude.
 
For the non-scientific they did a myth busters episode of "Being Blown away" hollywood style. IE get shot and go flying back. They proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, 9mm, .357, high powered rifles, shotgun at close range, mp5. Shooting at a pig corpse that is barely hanging on the tip of a hook will barely move.

Out of everything only the shotgun made the corpse fall from the hook.

It's just simple physics. An action creates an equal and opposite reaction. Thus if a person was to be sent flying back, the operator of the weapon would have to fire a weapon with enough force to send them flying back as well.

If you've ever taken a look at the video from the old SoCal bank robbery with the two armored gunman. One is shot by a sniper in the head and just goes limp. No hollywood magic of him going flying. Puff of blood from the exit side, and the body goes limp.
 
From the link posted earlier (http://www.riflebarrels.com/articles/50calibre/50sniping.htm):

Spokesmen for the Department of National Defence would not comment on the award last night, but a source within the department said the medals are on hold while the military decides whether or not to award the men a similar Canadian decoration.

However, Dr. David Bercuson, director of the Centre of Military and Strategic Studies at the University of Calgary, said the real reason for the delay was likely official squeamishness.

"Canadians don't kill -- they don't even use the word kill; that's the problem," he said. "I think the military is not sure that the government is prepared to accept the fact, let alone celebrate the fact ... that Canadian soldiers do sometimes end up killing people."


Many of the U.S. scouts who worked directly with the Canadian snipers were incensed that the Canadians did not get the Bronze Star, the medal for bravery the U.S. military usually gives foreign soldiers serving alongside its troops.

wth? 😕
 
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